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    ok so are Timken worth the extra price over Moog?

    Moog - $116.00/pair from advance auto
    Timken - $155.00/pair from amazon

    im getting new 2006 TJ hubs for my WJ brake swap on my HP30
    running 35"s

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    Moog is same as National brand which is made in china

    Timken is made in kentucky.. USA

    both brands offer a 3 year warranty
    Last edited by 93ZeeJ; 10-26-2011 at 04:34 PM.
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    Where are the MOOG's made? What kinda warranties do they carry??
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    Moog is National brand which is made in china

    Timken is made in kentucky.. USA

    both brands offer a 3 year warranty
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    I've had good luck with the Timkens on my ZJ. Not a lot of highway/street miles, but they're a good 7+ years old and still solid.
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    i'm a fan of the timkens i have on my zj as well
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    I'd spend the extra few bucks for the Timkens. The Moog shit made overseas has been known to suck ass (ball joints and TRE's anyway)
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    I went with the Moog's before, they didnt last three years with 33's, mild wheelin and a winter salt environment.
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    thanks guys ! ill splurge and get the Timkens... 35"s , chromos, and all of that i need something that will last
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    Double check those Timken Bearings. I've seen plenty of Timken bearings (R&P master install kits) that were clearly marked "MADE IN INDIA."

    I don't have a problem with it but for some it is a deal breaker.
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    I've had fine luck with both brands but I'd lean toward the timkens if they are in fact made by kentucky boys
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    just bought a pair of Timken hubs from rockauto.com

    151.00 shipped


    now im just waiting on my knuckles for the WJ swap... i sent them with the JKS spacers to my friends dad to get 440 TIG welded ... thats not gonna come apart hahaha
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    Shit when I first read your post I thought those were the prices PER hub, not for the pair. I think I paid around $120 for a Timken at Vato Zone back in the day.
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    yeah thats for the pair... about 70/each
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    Can't say anything about moot.

    My friend has been running timken on his xj for about a year now. Beats the hell out of them. Hit a tree and fucked his axle up, but the hubs lived on.

    They will be the next hubs I buy.
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    Timken here as well, I got 9 years out of my last set.
    96 4.0 ZJ, 4.5in RE coils with Teraflex arms, Yukon gears, ARB front bumper, 33x12.50 M/TR's, homemade OBA setup....

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    I cant find them sold in pairs....
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    Quote Originally Posted by missouritrailrider View Post
    I cant find them sold in pairs....
    you wont find them sold in pairs anywhere.. you have to buy them individually
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    I haven't had bad luck with Timken, myself. Although, I would highly recommend SKF Bearings. Very good quality and pack a 3 year warranty from Napa.
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    Timken, been around before WWII and great products, Amercian made. SKF is Swedish good but why not buy American. Moog, going into the toilet, I have been getting AC Delco (when possible) instead of Moog for rubber products. Timken is only bearings.
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    I personally haven't used the Moog unit bearings, but I can testify to the very high quality of their other suspension products. I guess it would come down to the price and availability for me.
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    I'm so glad you are bumping ancient threads to nutswing your favorite brands
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    Do WJ unit bearings have the flanged bearing retainers like the ones on JKs? In other words, can I run with a front shaft and not have the hub assembly separate? I have read that the flanged bearing retainers were added to the wrangler line in 1999.5 but I cant find any info about whether or not this change happened across the board.
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    Don't know the answer, but you are asking if they are captive bearings.
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    I imagine the bearings themselves are captive. My question was more about if the bearings are contained between the "spindle" and "hub" with a swaged flange. UBs that arent "captive flange" rely on the axle nut to sandwich the bearings in place. This means if you remove, say, a broke shaft, then the "hub" will walk itself off the "spindle" meaning bye bye wheel.

    Im curious about which type is used in WJ d30's
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    I'm not sure if the WJ unit bearings are any different engineering wise than TJ-ZJ-XJ unit bearings. Although I have a ZJ, I keep an outer in the Jeep to run if I ever break an axle. I've had to use it once, and I'm darned glad I had it.

    It's really not a hardship to carry and use one, since you have to take the old axle out if it breaks anyway. Just put the spare outer in and put the nut back on bubba-tight. Why take the chance?
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