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  1. #101 Re: Clayton Off Road Hard Arm 4-Link Long Arm Suspension 
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    can you fit the rear truss on with the upper control arm brackets?
    This person should be taken as seriously as a heart attack while piloting a zeppelin over a bacon factory, which is the most serious of heart attacks, because if that zeppelin crashes into that bacon factory all of us will be without bacon and that simply will not do.
     

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    thanks guys. You rock!
     

  3. #103 Re: Clayton Off Road Hard Arm 4-Link Long Arm Suspension 
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadian_driver View Post
    can you fit the rear truss on with the upper control arm brackets?
    No.
     

  4. #104 Re: Clayton Off Road Hard Arm 4-Link Long Arm Suspension 
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    i didn't think so, but i couldn't remember
    This person should be taken as seriously as a heart attack while piloting a zeppelin over a bacon factory, which is the most serious of heart attacks, because if that zeppelin crashes into that bacon factory all of us will be without bacon and that simply will not do.
     

  5. #105 Re: Clayton Off Road Hard Arm 4-Link Long Arm Suspension 
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    Ive got the same kit and love it!


     

  6. #106 Re: Clayton Off Road Hard Arm 4-Link Long Arm Suspension 
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    Hey guys what can be done to prevent or install the kit so it doesnt mangle your floor pan?
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    Bumpstops.
     

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    Cut out the part of the floor pan that gets hit...
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  9. #109 Re: Clayton Off Road Hard Arm 4-Link Long Arm Suspension 
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    It only mangles them once.

    But seriously, I dropped my bumpstops 3" (more like 2 3/4") and at full compression the upper arms are not quite touching the floor pan. I suppose actual results also depend on your rear axle. For example, with a 14 bolt . . .
     

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    okay cool ill just have to get my bumpstops the correct length then!
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    It's in need of new bushings in a couple spots, but other than that the kit has been awesome.
     

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    I think I have yet to hear someone unhappy with claytons
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    The Clayton kit in our ZJ rides and works so well that next winter when we come back down to AZ, we're leaving our well built JKU Rubicon in the garage and bringing the ZJ. People can't believe what it can do. The ride and comfort are also better.
    97 ZJ 5 1/2" lift, Claytons, 488 gears locked F&R, ARB front, Proto-Fab rear

    2010 JKU Rubicon, lifted, alloys, RCVs, sleeved, gusseted, PSC, 513s, 35s, bumpers, winch, Superchip. SOLD
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97limitedzj View Post
    Hey guys what can be done to prevent or install the kit so it doesnt mangle your floor pan?
    I just let it "self clear"

    It mangled up what's under the rear seats, but what's it matter? Was a noisy process but when it was done, no more banging. On the next build I'm using the same Calyt's kit on, I'm going to bang the floor up first with a BFH.
     

  15. #115 Re: Clayton Off Road Hard Arm 4-Link Long Arm Suspension 
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    Sorry for bumping an old thread, but I figured it'd be better than making a new one.

    I've searched around and couldn't find anything.

    Does anyone know what angle the upper arms in the claytons rear come off of the frame brackets?

    I'm copying this kit, and have the axle all about done minus the upper link mounts needing welded on the truss and frame brackets. I mocked it up, and found they're right around 22.5*, which is about half of what I need according to what I read. I know the claytons kit doesn't fall under the 'perfect' conditions as far as link geometry, but that it does work well. So I was wondering if I was in an accecptable range or if I needed to push the frame mount for them towards the axle some.

    My lowers will be 38-40"ish, depending on where the axle ends up in the wheel well, and the uppers I'm currently figuring out.

    Thanks in advance for any help.
    And a BIG THANKS for the writeup, as I used A TON of it for fabbing up what I have.
    98 ZJ - Build hd44/88, 35s, long armed, locked, blah blah blah...
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    Good luck getting exact info like that to blatantly copy a kit.

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  17. #117 Re: Clayton Off Road Hard Arm 4-Link Long Arm Suspension 
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    Guess I better just quit while I'm ahead and sell the jeep then seeing as I'm copying everyone else lifting it and throwing bigger tires under it

    I'm just asking for a few specs man, chill out. It's not like I'm doing this to sell kits. If I had the cash I would buy it, but I don't, so I do the next best thing.
    98 ZJ - Build hd44/88, 35s, long armed, locked, blah blah blah...
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  18. #118 Re: Clayton Off Road Hard Arm 4-Link Long Arm Suspension 
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    Then do the next best thing and search out a link calculator and figure it out.
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  19. #119 Re: Clayton Off Road Hard Arm 4-Link Long Arm Suspension 
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    Thats what I'm working on, like I said everyone's saying to aim for 40*ish but I don't see how the hell thats possible with the uppers mounted right above the lowers (frameside)
    98 ZJ - Build hd44/88, 35s, long armed, locked, blah blah blah...
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  20. #120 Re: Clayton Off Road Hard Arm 4-Link Long Arm Suspension 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dyn0mitemat View Post
    Thats what I'm working on, like I said everyone's saying to aim for 40*ish but I don't see how the hell thats possible with the uppers mounted right above the lowers (frameside)
    This really isn't that difficult if you are competent enough to be designing and building your vehicle's suspension. It's not going to happen with single-triangulated long arms on a ZJ. That means significantly higher loads on the joints/ mounts, but it apparently works well enough for the kit. You'll have much better results overall with a double triangulated setup like your future sig suggests you intended to do anyway. Search for more info rather than cluttering up a thread.
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  21. #121 Re: Clayton Off Road Hard Arm 4-Link Long Arm Suspension 
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    Quick question im in the middle of installing the shock conversion now how much weld is run around it?
     

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    we decided to weld it in the corners and one along the center

     

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    Geez whats up with all these hackers!
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