WJ Tie Rod Flip and Max Droop for Drag Link

[theksmith]

i thought the lift would bring them out of parallel and this would help put them back? are you saying i would be better off not doing anything to the steering then after a 4.5" lift (driveability wise, not clearance wise obviously)??

oh wait, I'm thinking of the inverted Y on my XJ, on the WJ it stays parallel when you lift, i get it!

is there a shorter pitman arm that would make up for flipping the trackbar on the knuckle end?

so if my main goals are driveability and not limiting flex, sounds like i should put beefy bars in, and put the chevy TRE on the pitman end and call it good?

[JakeMate]

Digging up an old thread.

Is anyone using the WJ Over the Knuckle Tie Rod Kit from Iron Rock?

http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch..._Code=IR-WTRFK

[WJJEEPIN]

Digging up an old thread.

Is anyone using the WJ Over the Knuckle Tie Rod Kit from Iron Rock?

http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch..._Code=IR-WTRFK

Yup for years now. What do you need to know?

[JakeMate]

Well it sounds like it's holding up. What about installation? Did you use a pickle fork? I found another technique for removing the tierod ends from a member on Jeepforum:

"A method that has worked 100% of the time for me and is a ton easier then a pickle fork, is to unbolt the TRE most of the way (leave the castle nut barely on there). Then on the knuckles there is a flat spot next to where the steering ends connect. Wack that with a BFH 6+ times. Depending on how hard you hit, it'll drop out eventually." ArloGuthroJeep

[ArloGuthroJeep]

I would like to think I am a member here too

[JakeMate]

At least I quoted you Eat shit.

[WJJEEPIN]

I've done both. Whatever you have will work.

Yeah I got it in the mail when I got home from the hospital after my son was born and that was July 07. No complaints. Just make sure if you take it to a shop to get aligned that all the bolts are there when u leave. I noticed a month later that the didn put on the locking bolts after they were done.

[JakeMate]

Speaking of alignment, I guess the only thing that could change would be the toe setting? That one is pretty easy to set with a tape measure.

[WJJEEPIN]

Speaking of alignment, I guess the only thing that could change would be the toe setting? That one is pretty easy to set with a tape measure.

Yup, I went in for caster and they fine tuned everything.

[WJJEEPIN]

So a heads up. IRO has a drop bracket/cross memeber for the track bar (for their JK axle swap). It will drop the track bar 3-4". ( I will know on Monday)

I will accompany this with their Pitman arm drop 1" which SHOULD get me back to near parallel. I will follow up with pix and measurements and driving feedback.

Fingers crossed it corrects the stupid bumpsteer and my wife will be cool driving the rig again....

[Backwoods Rambler]

Is this flip something I should be considering as part of my planned KOR 2.75" lift? I know everything helps usually, but with such a small lift, are the gains worth it?

Also, if I did do this, I would also working to eliminate the bump steer it causes, so I've contacted IRO about thier drop bracket/cross memeber from thier WJ/JK axle upgrade kit. I would also get thier 1" drop pitman arm if there is still any bump steer.

Thanks for the input guys.

[TN_WJ]

No to all of the above

[cowboy63b]

Is this flip something I should be considering as part of my planned KOR 2.75" lift? I know everything helps usually, but with such a small lift, are the gains worth it?

Also, if I did do this, I would also working to eliminate the bump steer it causes, so I've contacted IRO about thier drop bracket/cross memeber from thier WJ/JK axle upgrade kit. I would also get thier 1" drop pitman arm if there is still any bump steer.

Thanks for the input guys.

With only 2.75" of lift, the changes in your suspension geomotry (sp?) are so neglageable that yes the mods would help, but would be pointless.

[Backwoods Rambler]

Well, I guess I'd have to disagree now that my steering stabilizer is bent and my tie rod has scratches on it from my recent trip through Poison Spider in Moab.

I just heard back from IRO, here's what they said:

Hi JD,
We don't have that particular part on the website by itself. If you are interested, it is $129.99 and you would have to call to order it. Please let me know if you have any other questions. I'll be happy to help! you can king of see the backside of the trackbar subframe here: http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merchant2/DSC001211.jpg



Thank You,
Josh Ruppert
josh@ironrockoffroad.com
www.ironrockoffroad.com
952-210-7185

[WJJEEPIN]

At that lift it wont be worth your money or time. i wouldnt touch that till you get to some adjustable arms and 4" of lift.

I have the 6" lift and with the flip I got consistant bump steer from 4" of lift and short arms up to 6" and long arms.

I will know how the kit from IRO corrects it soon.

I just picked up the TB drop from IRO and a 2" pitman arm drop, it is at the shop getting welded up (rear axle) so I have yet to take it for a spin on the new setup.

That being said the TB drop from IRO will NOT work if you have their kit and the axle pushed fwd. i have their high clearance long arms and its pushed fwd 3/4 to 1" and it hits their iron y bracket.

**EDIT** You can do their tie rod flip with out mucking with the Trac-bar so your geometry will be un changed.

http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch..._Code=IR-WTRFK

[Backwoods Rambler]

**EDIT** You can do their tie rod flip with out mucking with the Trac-bar so your geometry will be un changed.

http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch..._Code=IR-WTRFK

I suppose I'll just stick with a SS relocation kit.

I saw that kit; I don't like heims, so I won't run it.

[WJJEEPIN]

They work great but To each their own.

Just get the JKS HD tube from KOR and call it done cuz At 2" lift with 31 your going to bang the SHIT out of everything.

[Backwoods Rambler]

Just get the JKS HD tube from KOR and call it done.

Already planned along with a RSS front & rear diff covers.

At 2" lift with 31 your going to bang the SHIT out of everything.

Yup, that's why I'm getting a 3" lift (KOR discontinued the 2.75" kit, so now I'm thinking IRO 3")

[ArloGuthroJeep]

Already planned along with a RSS front & rear diff covers.



Yup, that's why I'm getting a 3" lift (KOR discontinued the 2.75" kit, so now I'm thinking IRO 3")

Won't be getting a RSS diff cover for the D44a - only one that makes one for that axle right now is BTF I believe.

[Backwoods Rambler]

Won't be getting a RSS diff cover for the D44a - only one that makes one for that axle right now is BTF I believe.

Good to know

[WJJEEPIN]

Got the IRO TB and PA drop in and running. This is the best it has driven since i flipped the drag link up top. The bumpsteer got worse when I swapped the rubi express for the softer bilsteins. Highly recommend this setup for anyone with bumpsteer.

[merlin]

Has there been any update on the knuckle side TRE on the drag link or is the RHD TRE from the dealer still the only option for this particular mod?