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  1. #251 Re: The Blue Submarine *10/27 9" Gears done* 
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    And you get a sneak peek of what's under that blue moving blanket...hmmm what could it be!?[/quote]

    Is is some sort of a shifter kart?
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  2. #252 Re: The Blue Submarine *11/1 9" mock install* 
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    No shifting needed, but the fun factor would be higher with this than a shifter kart if i ever actually drove it hehe.
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    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
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  3. #253 Re: The Blue Submarine *11/1 9" mock install* 
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    Ok shifter cart was my guess too. Im stumped. Powerwheels?
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  4. #254 Re: The Blue Submarine *11/1 9" mock install* 
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    I'm going with lawnmower.
    Poetry in commotion.
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  5. #255 Re: The Blue Submarine *11/1 9" mock install* 
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    CRUNCH TIME. rollin out to fordyce this weekend so I better have this damn thing done.

    Going to weld this little spacer to the backing plate, then hand file it until I have a consistent thickness all around.


    And more work going into the rotor spacers, gotta pick up my brother in laws die grinder to clean up the inside area


    Checklist:
    Finish rotor spacers
    Finish bearing spacer
    Reshape shock mounts
    Buy new rotors, pads, and ebrake pads
    Redrill axleshafts to 5x5.
    The Blue Submarine
    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

    Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a
    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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  6. #256 Re: The Blue Submarine *11/1 9" mock install* 
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    Sounds like you've got your work cut out for you the next few days, good luck.
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  7. #257 Re: The Blue Submarine *11/1 9" mock install* 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earlier Today
    Doin work son! Been at it since 9:30 this morning so far. Bought my new rotors, pads, shoes, ujoint, longer pinion support bolts (for the pinion guard), and longer bolts to replace the anchor studs.

    Got top and bottom bumpstops done on one side, other side 60% done.

    3rd member backlash measured @ ~6 thousands backlash, all torqued to spec, pinion guard installed, and its now bolted to the housing for final assembly.
    Driveshaft got its new 1310-1350 u-joint installed, and its now bolted under the truck.

    Left to do:
    Finish driver side bumpstops
    Redrill axle shafts to 5x5
    Install parking brake shoes, rotor, caliper (praying the stock brake line will work, i'll make it work)
    Fill with gear oil and GO!

    I want to knock it all out and have it driving tonight.
    HAMMERTIME


    *EDIT*
    Oh...and shock mounts...hmm.
    Axle redrill under way:


    New bumpstop extensions, pads, coil retainers and bumpstop cup


    3rd member and driveshaft installed
    The Blue Submarine
    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

    Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a
    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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  8. #258 Re: The Blue Submarine *11/1 9" mock install* 
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    wait, you redrilled the lug holes in the axle shaft?

    what kind of tolerance is needed on that? I dont think I'd be good enough to do that.
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  9. #259 Re: The Blue Submarine *11/1 9" mock install* 
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    Yeah, but I got lucky. I have an old rotor from my front 44 that I had redrilled from 5x5.5 to 5x5 by a machinist long ago, so I bolted that to the shafts using the 5x5.5 pattern, then drilled out the 5x5 pattern.

    I just stopped for the night, right around 12 hours of work on the jeep...damn.
    Got the shock mounts done,
    Got drivers side bumpstop done
    One shaft drilled and studs installed, lines up perfectly with rotor and wheel so I'm golden.
    Other shaft has holes predrilled, need to be bored to correct size.

    I just found out I have to use the factory dust shield to retain the e-brake shoe clips, and thats pretty much where I called it a night.

    Once I have the other shaft completely redrilled, all fab work will be done, will be just installation. Also, I pushed the axle back a little, but went too far for comfort with the driveshaft so I have to pull them back in a little too.
    The Blue Submarine
    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

    Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a
    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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  10. #260 Re: The Blue Submarine *11/1 9" mock install* 
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    Well, I got this biatch done in time for fordyce, and it turned out to be a hell of a trip. Pretzeled a rear driveshaft, broke my drivers side 44 ujoint and stretched an ear, then stretched the straps on the front yoke of the front driveshaft and popped the ujoint caps off. Found them, tossed in some needlebearings and rocked it.

    Check this out. Coming up to winch hill 1 my buddy in the bronco 2 is stuck and on 3 wheels so I tried to get around him. I popped my ujoint, and am broken dead in the water in these pics. Since both of us were dead a jeep behind us tried to get around by taking the hard line, and rolled his shit backwards almost onto my jeep. His tube fender hit my front bumper and grill, but just a tap lol.





    Here you can see how screwed I was. Sitting on the rear diff with the drivers rear off the ground, that drivers front was PINNED. That makes ujoints go pop.


    And the rear driveshaft



    The WJ handled on the road up to fordyce (90ish miles?) the best it has in years, it was amazing. ZERO clunks, vibes, pops and noises, the shimmy in the steering wheel disappeared, what I thought were tire shakes were reduced drastically making me wonder if I had a bent axleshaft in the old 44a. I was seriously talking about how well it drove with my passenger the whole time. Fully loaded down I only had like 1" of up travel before hitting the new rear bump stops and I thought it was going to be a problem, but it actually ended up being awesome for me on the road, it kept the body roll WAY down because that side couldnt compress. The polyurethane cushioned well so there were no noises, it was just a little harsh when it compressed fast on the trail, like hitting a rock hard with a rear wheel. I'll go pull a few pics off the camera
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    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

    Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a
    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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  11. #261 Re: The Blue Submarine *9" done, Fordyce carnage* 
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    SHIT, nice! Did you make it out and home in front wheel drive?
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  12. #262 Re: The Blue Submarine *9" done, Fordyce carnage* 
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    Danm that is a pile of stuck iron. Awesome! X2 on the trip home??
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  13. #263 Re: The Blue Submarine *9" done, Fordyce carnage* 
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    That twisted driveshaft I actually bought a few weeks ago from LSRGreg, I threw my old one in just in case...lucky as hell that I did! We had to swap rear u-joints because I'm rockin a 1310-1350 conversion ujoint for the 9". I twisted the driveshaft at 1 in the morning, so we had to replace it...it was freezing out...and raining. We didn't make it to camp till 3 in the morning. Fun shit.

    So yeah I drove the jeep home
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    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

    Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a
    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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  14. #264 Re: The Blue Submarine *9" done, Fordyce carnage* 
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    damn dude.. twisted that sucker like a pretzel!

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  15. #265 Re: The Blue Submarine *9" done, Fordyce carnage* 
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    Haha yeah. Thanks for the driveshaft man, I wish I could have let it last longer
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    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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  16. #266 Re: The Blue Submarine *9" done, Fordyce carnage* 
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    Nice work! Fordyce is a fun trail, I can't wait to get back up there. We had an all night run due to some carnage. Got back to Cisco grove at like 0500. Did most of the trail at night, couldn't see shit.
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  17. #267 Re: The Blue Submarine *9" done, Fordyce carnage* 
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    we are going up to Fordyce on the 21-22 of this month if anyone is interested. Leaving Friday after work, coming home Sunday. My ZJ needs a Front driveshaft so, so far it will be a Bronco, 1st gen yoda runner, and a CJ. PM me if you want to be a part of the group. Sorry for the thread jack, glad to see you made it out of there ok.
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  18. #268 Re: The Blue Submarine *9" done, Fordyce carnage* 
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    So, if you had to do the niner again would you? How did the pinion gaurd hold up, did it help against the driveshaft twist or not? Again awesome build, that trail looks like a lot of fun.
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  19. #269 Re: The Blue Submarine *9" done, Fordyce carnage* 
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgitatedPancake View Post
    So yeah I drove the jeep home
    Good times!
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  20. #270 Re: The Blue Submarine *9" done, Fordyce carnage* 
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    Thanks Tommy! It's definately one of my favorites now, next time I want to defeat this biatch.

    It's all good Joe, nice to see another local grand wheeler too.

    Lee, as for the 9", absolutely. Would I swap the WJ discs onto it if I did it again? Probably not. It was a lot of work, but I do enjoy having factory parts for the rear discs still.
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    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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  21. #271 Re: The Blue Submarine *9" done, Fordyce carnage* 
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    I just looked at those pics again. The third one looks like those two guys are standing on your roof.
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    So if you had to choose a disc conv. which would it be? Lots of them out there, almost to many to choose from. I'm just like everyone else high quality low price and that isnt ever a good combo, from my experience.
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  23. #273 Re: The Blue Submarine *9" done, Fordyce carnage* 
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    haha tech your right! Thats funny lookin.

    lee, I would probably do the el dorado calipers with the built in parking brake. From what I've read a lot of people have had problems getting them to work properly, but then afterwards I also read you have to follow the setup instrucitons to a T to get the ebrake to work well, and from those who did it right I've heard no problems. A nice thing for me is I'm still using all factory WJ parts for the brakes, so when it comes to getting replacements I don't have to remember what vehicle and year I got them from, my front axle is butched together like that so I have to remember I'm using ford hubs, rotors and wheel bearings from a 1985 bronco with the TTB d44 up front when I'm lookin for replacement parts...on the rear now I don't have to do any of that.
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    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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    Got a few vids with the WJ from the trip, fun stuff. It did really well when I wasnt busy breaking it

    The Bronco 2 and the WJ:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjCl-tx4X2Y

    Aaand the whole group:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHExoX-PZZw
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    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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    who's pinion guard is that? great lakes?
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