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  1. #1 The Blue Submarine *Cage and tube bumpers* 
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    Ok well I got my jeep...about 2 years ago from my dad. It's my first vehicle, and he thought it was about time for another jeep (hes a forester, beats his jeeps lol). It had ??? miles on it when I got it, but it has 184k now on the original everything. Anyways i started out lookin around jeepforum and stuff, got interested in offroading, as well as my sisters fiance is a hardcore yota guy so...getting teh bug from 2 sides at once. For my first lift I searched around for a while, and decided on the 4" shot arm by RockKrawler about a year ago. My decision was based alot on price, as my parents were paying for some of it and had a word in what I would be getting. Anyways, I got 285/75R16 MTR's to go with my new lift. In a weekend i got everything apart, and my new lift in yay! Lots of rubbing at first, tore the linings out of both my wheelwells and both teh pumps out of my washer fluid reservoir. Anyways, I still ahve the bug, Im taking a welding class and my brother in law is a very experienced welder...and now im looking at custom long arms and 35s. Ive been out on the 'con once, going out to moab this summer, and do generla wheeling whenever I can. Without further ado, here are lots of pics.


    Uncles ranch, fun shot.


    Poser shot, testing flex
    [img]http://www.agitatedpancake.com/random/jeep/Ranch 117small.jpg[/img]

    Side view


    Extended bumpstops would be nice (still dont have em) This is where i tore the lining and 2 pumps out of the washer reservoir.




    Now to the 'con:


    Only cool trail pic


    Brother in laws truck back then (since then SAS, dual tcases, and 36" tsls)


    We went during spring. Thats not a good time to go, as things are muddy and WET. Went up on a rock, slid off it sideways into a tree


    I think i dropped REALLY hard on the front of my slider...or it was like this i dont know. Either way new sliders coming soon (with LAs)


    Only had a slider on 1 side...long story. Heres the other side


    Notice the rest of the rocker...no smooth section lol (all that damage is from when my dad had it)


    Like i said earlier...it was wet (AKA deep water)


    Tcase rear output leak from the trip


    In this pic (again) you can almost see the waterline, right above the cladding. I dont like water





    Off the con, random stuff


    Grossest mud EVER. Dried like herculiner...


    Again...gross


    The source of it




    Until my updates...ENJOY AND THANKS FOR LOOKING
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    The Blue Submarine
    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

    Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a
    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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  2. #2 Re: My rig...its history...and future? 56k=NO! 
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    Nice rig man good luck w/ the LA's.
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  3. #3 Re: My rig...its history...and future? 56k=NO! 
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    alright...as im sure u all know my rig is on claytons right now, but still running MTRs. Figured I might as well update this stuff! BTW I'll fix the pics sooner or later.

    *Drool*



    Had a little slop...wonder why



    *Grin* =D



    2" BB and 32"s vs 6" and 33"s






    Built a bumper, not done yet lol





    Been through the con, parts of moab, and Fordyce is on its way.
    The Blue Submarine
    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

    Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a
    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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  4. #4 Re: My rig...its history...and future? 56k=NO! 
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    Parts of Moab? HA, try the first 100 ft of Hells Revenger

    Update those pics in the first post - those red x's do nothing for me
    -Ryan
    '04 WJ w/6" on Clayton LA's, 242 SYE, 4.56 (locked 44a), 35" BFG MT KM2's
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  5. #5 Re: My rig...its history...and future? 56k=NO! 
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    that was definately like a quarter mile or more....that AND I went everywhere in teh town multiple times, and without power steering or cooling! That counts as an adventure right? lol...
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    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

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    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
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  6. #6 Re: My rig...its history...and future? 56k=NO! 
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    Some new additions. Replaced my bent tie rod (and ends) So I now have a trail spare. Also did a LOT of work on my bumper, though it still isnt complete yet its lookin alot better.









    The images make the bumper look wider than shit. Don't worry, it isnt. It only extends about an inch wider than the fenders on each side.

    Also today I was over at my brother in laws with his hydraulic/pneumatic tube bender....so nice. Anyways I got some tube bent up to widen my sliders appx 5". They were tucked in way too close to the body before, buddies couldnt stand on it in off camber situation, and the body hit first in every situation but vertical contact.
    The Blue Submarine
    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

    Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a
    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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  7. #7 Re: My rig...its history...and future? 56k=NO! 
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    Right On....Gald you got those corners done!!!!

    Let's bash it at GSR2007!!!!
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    Gonna run tubes from the bumpers to the sliders?!? Then cut off the fenders to wide them out?

    Have you added gussets behind the bumper on the new sections you added or are they going to crush the first time they hit rock?
    -Ryan
    '04 WJ w/6" on Clayton LA's, 242 SYE, 4.56 (locked 44a), 35" BFG MT KM2's
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    up until the first bend it is already very sturdy. I am going to run another triangle out to the furthest outside bend, and also the top of the new section is going to have some 3/8ths inch plate welded to it for most of its strength. Its going to be very durable. Also, I dont know if i told you of my idea, but running tubes from bumper to sliders is exactly what I intend to do...when I get around to it =P
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    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

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    RIDE!”
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    Nope, didn't tell me but in my vicodin enduced state, it made sense when I saw the extended bumper AND you said you're extending your sliders...
    -Ryan
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    cut my fenders, widened my sliders, painted my bumper







    Stuffs pretty well now






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    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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    Alright, got the real stuff going on now. This is going to be a speedy version up till now.

    Pulled a D44 from an '81 full sized Cherokee. 64.5" WMS to WMS, perfect.






    Got it home (OMG its hard to move a fully assembled one of these bitches on your own)




    Insides, I couldn't have gotten luckier:







    Basically from there I got it all stripped down, all the paint off (this is semi-clean, but paint still on:





    I got some 4.56's to install in it, heres a quick summary of how it went:

    First Pattern - Pinion too shallow, pinion preload too high:






    Second Pattern - Great pattern, preload good, too little backlash:






    Third pattern - Backlash within spec, pinion too deep






    Almost ruined the gearset because of metal shavings on the pinion threads-




    Final setup - Pattern OK, everything within spec.



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    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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    And now to where I am today - Ballistic fab's LCA/Shock mount/Spring perches welded up, UCA ready, pulling the D30 to do a mockup install and to get some bracket locations settled.



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    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

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    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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    Lookin good, man.
    '93 ZJ 4.0L
    Tread Lightly!
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    soooo what r u gonna do with the D30?
    93' ZJ 4.7L STROKER, Clayton LONGARMS, 4wd conversion, 231 SYE, HPD30, 8.8, BFG 35's, 2000 manifold & injectors, Hesco fpr, Port & polish, LS1 valves, WJ Steering/brakes, KOR SliderZ & steering box brace, Clayton TB bracket and my custom trackbar, Crane ignition, B&M cooler, Tom Woods, etc....
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    sell it or something, dunno exactly yet. Maybe see if I can get some interest from a jeep junkyard near hear, trade it for some doors to make half doors out of, or some other things.
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    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

    Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a
    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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    if the drivers side hub is noise-free and in good shape i would like to buy it
    On a side note, where did you buy your shovel? It seems to be holding up really well for the big hole you keep digging for yourself.
    '02 WJ- 2" RE BB/1 " EE rear BB, 31" Firestone Destinations, RE Twin tube shocks, DoubleJZ rear shock mod, JKS BPE's, JKS/KOR adj Trackbar w/ Rockwell bushings, Magnaflow exhaust, homebrew intake, torque management delete, and a whole lot of aviation grade ingenuity.
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    Pickup the pace AP you're as slow as arlo.

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    Ok ok fine here ya go.













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    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

    Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a
    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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    Got all the brackets welded on except TB, modified the draglink to fit the current WJ TRE's, now I have to shorten it a few inches (I couldn't have shortened the section I put on) What I'm going to do is cut about 3" out and grind both ends into like a cone-shape, so I can have weld all teh way through instead of just a butt weld. Then sleeve it and weld up the sleeve.

    Would you guys have any problems running this? (Below): 4 holes drilled for spot welds, then welded the end as well.








    And all of the brackets done except for track bar:

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    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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    Almost there...





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    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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    Looking good. When you're all done put a UPS sticker on it and send it to me for inspection
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    got 'er running today....and then broke her. Rubbed a hole in a goddamn brake line. DLK:JF:JSDKLGJ:SKDlg
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    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

    Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a
    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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  24. #24 Re: My rig...its history...and future? 56k=NO! 
    How do you like them LCA brackets coil buckets? any pics with the coils on/in.

    sucks on the break line.
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    actually they are pretty damn versatile (sp). I really like how they turned out. I bolted them to the arms, then tack welded them all to the axle tubes exactly how I wanted
    took the axle back out and burned 'em home. I also like the shock mounts as well. Everything turned out pretty damn well.

    The brake line issue, was just a problem waiting to happen. I was using the stock d30 brake lines, which include the hard line and bends for that caliper, so the bends were all sorts of wierd.

    I can get pics tomorrow, the jeep isnt actually at home right now =P
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    2001 Grand Cherokee (WJ) 4.7

    Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a
    Well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Totally worn out, shouting “HOLY SHIT, WHAT A
    RIDE!”
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