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  1. #101 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - e-fan, 8.8 and rear shock mnt. 02/09/2006 
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  2. #102 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - e-fan, 8.8 and rear shock mnt. 02/09/2006 
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    More from November 2005

    So here is the reason why I went for 16" wheel's, dual piston WJ calipers.
    They do not fit in a 15" wheel without serious grinding on the calipers.


    Other advantage of this conversion is the right outer WJ knuckle with a "high steer arm" for the drag link to connect to.
    No more "Y"steering but a "cross over" setup.
    Redrilled the knuckle's to flip the ball stud's
    Combined with a "over axle bracket" for the TB. Will get me a setup close to parallel between TB and DL.






    Just a view flash-backs
    Standard 15" 7J rim


    US wheel 15" 7J with Bridgestone AT 31" 10.5




    15" with 35"


    And hopefully the last one for a while.
    Eagle Alloys
    SERIES 186, Super Finish, 16x10, Offset -24mm, BSM 4,5" en load 2100lbs


    Time to press some new ball-joints in the D30
    Making the adapters took more time then pressing itself.
    Had to place a piece of bar between upper and lower "ear"


    lower


    upper


    the benefit of a hoist


    WJ knuckle in place.




    December 2005
    Time to return these, thnx JeePee




    Replaced by these
    Maxxis Creepy Crawler 8090 37"*12.50/16
    Obvious that axle is to much forward, love those adj. CA's






    All for now.
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  3. #103 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - Wheels&Tires 02/14/2006 
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    Looking good, love the dual piston calipers.

    Doing something similar to the WJ knuckle but going to use the Tera High steer knuckle on mine.
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    Wow, awesome work man!
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  5. #105 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - Wheels&Tires 02/14/2006 
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    I've really been diggin all the professional work and quality parts that have gone into this rig. But I gotta say it...

    D30 and 37's?
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  6. #106 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - Wheels&Tires 02/14/2006 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma297
    D30 and 37's?
    2nd that... I'm amazed I haven't broken anything in my 44 with 37s so far..
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  7. #107 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - e-fan, 8.8 and rear shock mnt. 02/09/2006 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ogdak
    Obvious that axle is to much forward, love those adj. CA's

    Actually it is not... Just cut a little on your bumper and fender, and you'll have a much better aproach angle. About the WJ knuckles... nice work, looks good. But I think it was a waste of time and money. With that lift/tires you are past D30 terretory.

    Anyway... your doing clean work man!
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  8. #108 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - e-fan, 8.8 and rear shock mnt. 02/09/2006 
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman
    Just cut a little on your bumper and fender, and you'll have a much better aproach angle.
    Cutting your front bumper doesn't gain you any approach angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadjans
    Cutting your front bumper doesn't gain you any approach angle.
    True, but I think his was refering to the fact that if he trims his front bumper (the part under the fender) he can leave the axle where it is (in the forward position) and still articulate without rubbing. Thus giving him a better aproach angle than if he moved his axle back.


    The work looks great I dig the ball joint press.
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    The 30 will probably break, but I say wheel the crap out of it till it does, then build a 44 or 60 for it. Overall, incredible work...wish I lived in freaky-deaky dutch land so you could build some stuff for me.
    I'll be hardcore when I can afford it.
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  11. #111 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - Wheels&Tires 02/14/2006 
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    I knew this discussion about a D30 and 37" would start sooner or later.
    And you're right about it, it just has to do with AVAILABILITY of proper donor's.

    According to the statistic's over the past years 2001-2004 of ownership in the Netherlands.
    German manufactured car's represent 35,5% of ownership in the Netherlands.
    France manufactured car's represent 24% of ownership in the Netherlands.
    Japan manufactured car's represent 16% of ownership in the Netherlands.
    And (sorry guys) in 11th place.
    USA manufactured car's represent 0.8% of ownership in the Netherlands.
    (source http://www.bovag.nl/ )

    So when I go to an autoyard you know what I'll find.
    So you can imagine what that means for the prices.

    I looked into it when I was looking for the 8.8, turned out we only have one specialized US brand's autoyard.
    So I ended up buying a new 8.8 - 31 spline - 4.10 gears - disk's.
    Had it delivered as airfreight, still did cost me less then a second hand from a '97 exploder from a dutch autoyard.

    So after that experience did not even start on looking for a suitable front axle donor. Just got a cheapo XJ D30.

    So I'll just take my changes with it(and losses).

    Further more this is my first auto build up ever.
    So when my fabbing will hold up I'll continue this rig.
    Maybe one day I'll find suitable European made donor's with suitable axle's
    for 37" or bigger, maybe Unimog or small Army trucks.
    For know I'm just enjoying this build. Getting close to have it driveable.

    Thanks for the thumbs up, go have a beer.
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  13. #113 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - e-fan, 8.8 and rear shock mnt. 02/09/2006 
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMTimZJ
    True, but I think his was refering to the fact that if he trims his front bumper (the part under the fender) he can leave the axle where it is (in the forward position) and still articulate without rubbing. Thus giving him a better aproach angle than if he moved his axle back.

    Exactly!

    @ogdak:

    You guys have a lot of K30s in the Benelux.
    Me and a friend picked up a 14 bolt with Detroit locker, and a D60 Front with 4.56 gears for 650. They were out of an ex-army 1985 K30 in Belgium.

    After all that work, I would just run your stuff (or sell it if you get a really good price - unlikely) But I would start looking around for an old K30 and store its axles for the (maybe not all that far) future.
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    It all depends on what terrain your wheeling. In Alaska, guys were running 37 Boggers, 38 TSLs on D30s. I think maybe a broken shaft in the mix, but nothing serious. And this is going out wheeling every couple weekends, not pavement pounders.
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    Just get some alloy shafts and hope those bad boys don't hook up with the skinny pedal down!
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    Quote Originally Posted by crawlin' zj
    Just get some alloy shafts and hope those bad boys don't hook up with the skinny pedal down!
    And have the ring gear break on you?
    I rather replace a shaft, easier then a ring gear.
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    Or don't waste your fing money on a 30
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    @Deadman, thanks for the info. will keep an eye on that.

    I'll just wheel it and see what is gonna happen.
    Pro is , it wont see any rocks, why? cause we do not have them overhere.

    About that front bumper, it is already cut but that is in next month's.
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    The story continue's

    Back again, still december 2005
    Because off the bigger wheels/tires I need to create some space in the front wheelwells.
    How? well with a cut-off wheel.
    Mainly on the front








    On the back off the front wheelwell only minor adjustments.
    stock


    cut


    Space enough






    Reason why the inside rear-view mirror can go




    The evap canister has to be moved also.
    The rightside mounting point is the stock location




    From below, outside the reach off the left front tire.


    Front bumper sides shortend about 2"




    Because I had damaged my rockers in the past.
    Drilled a bunch off holes to restore its original(more or less) shape


    And plumbed the holes


    Took the grinder.

    And done for tonight.
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  20. #120 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - Wheelwell space 03/09/2006 
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    Hmm, time for an update.
    Before you know you are a year behind again.
    I left off with December 2005
    To be precise, with a stock front DS which is now almost 4" short.
    So I cut it in half


    Took some solid bar, 6" length almost 2" in diameter.
    Took some off on both end's to match the inner DS diameter, which is 39mm.


    Used the press and welder to get things together.
    DS still needs to be balanced, then I'll know wether this will work or not.
    Do not have anymore pic's off it.

    Made some bumpstop's for the frontaxle, still gonna need some fine tuning.


    So finally it is 2006.
    I plan to drive my ZJ this year, big Q is WHEN

    Starting with CB and antenna location




    Not even completely done, I already need to change something on the RUCA
    The angle off the frame side bracket is not inline with the CA's


    So cut the arms for about off the


    Some extra grinding


    Used the press to get the right angle, approx 5 degrees and welded it up again.








    Dry practice in the garage, turns out I hit the rear coil with me wheel.
    So ordered a set off 1" wheelspacers.








    Setting up on the rear.


    12 degrees


    All for now.
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  21. #121 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - Small stuff 03/22/2006 
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    Looking awesome man.
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  22. #122 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - Small stuff 03/22/2006 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILikeMud
    Looking awesome man.
    Thnx, going slowly but getting there!
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    How far away are you from having it driveable right now?
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  24. #124 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - Small stuff 03/22/2006 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILikeMud
    How far away are you from having it driveable right now?
    Is gonna take a while.
    Still need to take care off a lot of small stuff
    -currently working on the exhaust.
    -need to set up both axles.
    -dialing in suspension.
    -DS's need's to be balanced.
    -Dual battery set-up.
    -Wiring on the E-fan.
    -Air intake.
    -Waiting on parts to complete steering setup.

    I'm sure I'm forgetting things. But I hope this is it.
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  25. #125 Re: Ogdak's ZJ - Small stuff 03/22/2006 
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    what rotors did you use on the front after the knuckle swap?
    BTW looks really good!
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