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I have an old Ramsey 8000# winch with wire cable. It's slow, but it's always worked. Would faster line speed be a benefit? Maybe. I've wheeled with people with Warn 8274s and their line speed is wicked fast, but in the end my Ramsey gets the stuck stuff unstuck just as well as the Warn does. The only issue is when pulling under power it's easy to run over the cable. Just have to stop once you're not stuck any more and unhook.
Ditto on all the safety stuff. I always wear gloves when winching and direct people to stay behind cover.
I need to get a winch on the ZJ, and thinking about one for the trailer too. Would probably cheap out a bit on the winch for the trailer, really would only use it to pull the M416 up on the deck and it's only 1500lbs. But if I ever had to pull a dead rig up the winch would be nice. Could use a rig with a winch and a snatch block too if I needed.
I've been leaning towards the M8000 for the ZJ, but unsure if it would be enough winch for the ZJ and M416 if we had them both.
What are the pros and cons to the inline winches and the traditional winches?
Whats the benefit / downside to and or min for pull capacity(gvwr)?
12k 10k 9.5k 9k 8.5 or 8k or less?
General rules of thumb:
Winch capacity -- shoot for about 1.5-2 times the vehicle's loaded weight. So a 5000lb rig, should look for a 8000-10,000lb winch. I've seen 8k winches work just fine with a ZJ.
Rope/cable capacity -- Most ropes/cables supplied by manufacturers exceed the winch's capacity by a few thousand pounds. I run 5/16" synthetic rope (12.5k capacity, IIRC) on my 9k winch without issue. Although for synthetic, going to 3/8" certainly wouldn't hurt anything except perhaps make me run a shorter line to get it all to fit on the drum. You have the same issue going overkill with metal cable, but I'd imagine it'd have a bigger weight penalty.
Snatch block/tree saver/D-ring -- at least twice the winch capacity. In theory if your winch can pull 9000lbs, it can do about 18000lbs in a fully redirected pull -- which is the force the snatch block/tree saver/D-ring are going to see.
Basically, you want the winch itself to be the "weak" point. If a winch exceeds its capacity, it just quits pulling. If anything else exceeds its capacity, shit goes flying.
Also, keep in mind that more layers of rope/cable also means a lower capacity. Fully spooled up my 9k winch only has a 6.5k capacity, but has a 9k rating on the last (innermost) layer -- which is probably why most manufacturers suggest the use of a pulley block when exceeding 2/3 of the winch's capacity.
Last edited by SirFuego; 03-09-2012 at 11:14 AM.
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