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  1. #1 GSR 2010 will be Sept. 24-26, 2010. 
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    Hi,

    Well if you missed Grand Slam Rubicon last year 2009 (and I know I did) then maybe you can make it out this year!

    Meeting around 0700 on Friday morning at loon lake overspill.

    Friday- We will meet at the trail head (Loon Lake) in the morning and be on the trail by 8:00 am.
    Saturday- Hang out at the springs (if we make it there on friday).
    Sunday- We will exit the trail (from Rubicon Springs and up Cadillac Hill).

    Min. requirements- Lift kit with 33" tires & matching spare, winch, front & rear tow points, and at least rear locker, front & rear preferred!

    Please be self sufficient.

    Hope to see ya on the con,
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    Scheduled... Count me in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldensd View Post
    Scheduled... Count me in.
    Me too
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    Sounds like a plan... I'll be there

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    Is there anywhere safe for tow rig parking? I finally have a truck and trailer.

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    Ok I have the same question as Slo Mo, plus a few others.

    1. Is the plan to go from Loon Lake in to Cadillac Hill/Rubicon Springs area and then return to Loon Lake? That is how I am reading the first post.

    2. If the answer to question #1 is "YES", then is there a place to leave tow rigs, campers and trailers unattended that is safe.

    3. If the answer to #1 is "NO", add this to question #2. How do those of us with Tow Rigs and Trailers get back to them?

    4. It looks like your talking about spending two nights on the trail, so is there set camp sites, or just off to the side of the trail.

    I really wanted to do this before GSW or directly following, but all the reports I am seeing are telling me "NO WAY JOSE", so coming down for GSR looks to be my best bet for running this trail. Have to see how it meshes with "Street Vibrations" and see about doing both in one trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mochisme View Post
    Ok I have the same question as Slo Mo, plus a few others.

    1. Is the plan to go from Loon Lake in to Cadillac Hill/Rubicon Springs area and then return to Loon Lake? That is how I am reading the first post.

    2. If the answer to question #1 is "YES", then is there a place to leave tow rigs, campers and trailers unattended that is safe.

    3. If the answer to #1 is "NO", add this to question #2. How do those of us with Tow Rigs and Trailers get back to them?

    4. It looks like your talking about spending two nights on the trail, so is there set camp sites, or just off to the side of the trail.

    I really wanted to do this before GSW or directly following, but all the reports I am seeing are telling me "NO WAY JOSE", so coming down for GSR looks to be my best bet for running this trail. Have to see how it meshes with "Street Vibrations" and see about doing both in one trip.

    Typically for this one, we have always ran it all the way through from Loon to Tahoe, and have spent 2 nights camping at Rubicon Springs. I'd say your trailer options would be to:

    1. Park at Loon lake, and split from the group and head back out on the trail from the springs to Loon lake.
    2. Park at Loon lake and then take the road back around to Loon from Tahoe after we finish.
    3. Park on the Tahoe side and then take the road around and meet at Loon Lake

    If I were to trailer for the trip, I think I'd go with the last option. If you coming in from out of town, you could drop the trailer on Thursday, drive around and camp at the Lake, and then your ready to roll on Friday. I forget for sure, but I'd say its a couple hours to take the roads from 1 trailhead to the other. I can't speak for security, but I do know there is a parking area at both ends of the trail that are commonly used for trailer parking
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    I wouldn't park anything worth parking at the Loon Lake side. I hear about enough break ins and thefts on that side to recommend you avoid it.

    As goldsend said, you can park your truck and trailer on the tahoe side, then take your rig off and drive it all the way back around to the loon lake side, then wheel from loon to tahoe, ending up at your trailer. It does take a while to do this, but most of it isn't super high speed stuff so most rigs can manage it.

    I'm going to mark this down, Gunna make this shizzle happen!
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    Thanks, that is the kind of information I need to make my plans. I am a for sure "Maybe" on this Grand Slam.

    I think being this is a three day thing I will try and talk my brother into coming to Loon Lake with me and then taking the truck, camper and trailer home and then bring them to Tahoe to pick me up. That way I have no worries about tweekers messing with anything
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    Well I checked and the "Street Vibrations" Ralley will be taking place in the Reno/Sparks, NV area the same time as the GSR, so if your interested, you can go early and take in a couple days of Street Vibrations and then the Grand Slam Rubicon. Check it out here.

    http://www.road-shows.com/street_vibrations.php
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    what's the rating on it?
    would it be to rough a trip on a 3 month old baby?
    could you drag a OR trailer trough?
    pic's of obstacles? ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth Crawler ZJ View Post
    what's the rating on it?
    would it be to rough a trip on a 3 month old baby?
    could you drag a OR trailer trough?
    pic's of obstacles? ?
    Theres no rating, it would be HORRIBLE for a 3 month old baby. Especially considering it's going to be real camping for 2 nights. There is also no way to trailer through...I dont understand why you would though?

    I don't have the sound on, but this video seems decentish for showing parts of the trail

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV3RK...eature=related
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    X2 on not being a good trip for a 3-month old. I have seen a TJ pulling an off-road trailer once but it was at the beginning of the trail so I don't know how far in they made if plus I would imagine that it would be VERY slow going pulling an off-road trailer through especially with the longer overall length of a ZJ. I think it would be much more of a burden for what it's worth, and make the trip a heck of a lot more difficult for you than it needs to be. The rubicon is pretty ruff, here's a link to a brief description of the trail, TRAIL RATING, although they rank it as a 10, not all of the trail is hardcore, but many of the major obstacles are and there are by-passes for those. I would give it a SOLID 8 if you by-pass most of the obstacles. Hope this helps.

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    Ahhh I completely misread the trailer part my bad! I read "can you drag or trailer through?" Missed the a haha.

    Yeah it's fun, and i have seen OR trailers on it before, but I agree that one would slow you down a lot
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    Hi,

    I posted a reply to Mochisme questions the other day, sorry stupid me I must have hit a wrong button as I was at work and had to go out on a call.

    Yes, I agree- if your going to leave a truck & trailer then I would leave it on the Tahoe side and drive around to Loon Lake or as you stated have your brother drive your truck & trailer.



    Stealth Crawler ZJ- Again yes I have to agree, not a good trip to bring a 3 month old baby on. The trail is nothing but rock after rock and then add some more rocks! It can be a long hot day and your wife and baby would not be very happy.
    Also- not a good trip for a trailer if your talking about a "OR trail trailer" (because a RV trailer would never make it through).
    The avg. speed in about 1-2 mph, The first day can be long (only if we have problems or break downs) and we are trying to get 2/3 of the way through the trail to the Rubicon Springs for camping and a watering hole. Sorry, no trailers, but I hope you can still make it.

    I hope this helps.

    Thanks,
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    Very good and interesting Video (Lot more there also) and more questions from someone that has not seen the trail except in Videos.

    1. If the first day is getting to Rubicon Springs where the group will camp for two nights. What goes on the second day?

    2. I am assuming the third day is getting to Tahoe from Rubicon Springs, so is this correct?

    3. From the various videos' I see a number of spots that I would have no interest in testing my ZJ or myself on (Soup Bowl, Little Sluice, and the like) as I run trails for relaxation and enjoying new sights, not stressing myself out on the harder things if they can be avoided. I am assuming again that there are by-passes on most of the harder sections, or the hard sections are optional lines. Am I correct or not?

    Some of you may think I am a wimp to look at it this way, but with limited funds, destroying shit just to try and prove I can or can not do something is not an option I wish exercise. I want to run trails, relax, view the sights and do the moderate things and leave the harder ones for the guys with more prepared rigs. I will be happy to watch from the sideline on the HARD stuff.
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    I haven't done a GSR, but my bet is relaxing, and maybe wheelin around the parts of the trail local to the springs for saturday, then heading out sunday.

    Obstacles like Little Sluice and Soupbowl are definately optional. actually soupbowl is (going to be?) shut down permenantly here pretty soon. Greenies decided it was too much of a spectator spot causing chaos and traffic jams.

    I've attempted soupbowl, unsuccessfully lol
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBWiKaDNWQY

    and a SICK video of my friend makin it for his first time after many attempts
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QhnAXiViAM

    There are still many obstacles unavoidable obstacles that might bring some pucker factor or possible body damage, it's just the name of the game wheelin out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgitatedPancake View Post
    I haven't done a GSR, but my bet is relaxing, and maybe wheelin around the parts of the trail local to the springs for saturday, then heading out sunday.

    Obstacles like Little Sluice and Soupbowl are definately optional. actually soupbowl is (going to be?) shut down permenantly here pretty soon. Greenies decided it was too much of a spectator spot causing chaos and traffic jams.

    I've attempted soupbowl, unsuccessfully lol
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBWiKaDNWQY

    and a SICK video of my friend makin it for his first time after many attempts
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QhnAXiViAM

    There are still many obstacles unavoidable obstacles that might bring some pucker factor or possible body damage, it's just the name of the game wheelin out there.

    Yeah I have watched several hours of YouTube Videos (Including the two you linked to). I am just saying if there is a by pass on some of the harder Obstacles, that is the route I will take most times. When there is no choice, well lets get it done and body damage is a part of wheeling like you said and we do what we have to do.
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    2,817 miles / 45 hours from my doorstep to Loon Lake Dam

    edit: Ted, sounds like you're in need of a copilot, spotter, photographer, rock jock, and winch technician

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudz View Post
    2,817 miles / 45 hours from my doorstep to Loon Lake Dam

    edit: Ted, sounds like you're in need of a copilot, spotter, photographer, rock jock, and winch technician

    I know just the guy – he’s just a plane ticket away
    Well if that guy is the crazy that drove to GSW 2009 from PA and he provides his own ticket to Reno, there is a seat for him with a pick up and return to Reno. PM or Email me and lets talk about it and see if we can make it happen. (mochisme@yahoo.com)
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    haha nice this is startin to sound better and better!

    I'm sooo itching to get out there. This ridiculously long winter sucks though, all this snow is going to stick around for a while
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mochisme View Post
    Well if that guy is the crazy that drove to GSW 2009 from PA and he provides his own ticket to Reno, there is a seat for him with a pick up and return to Reno.
    Ted - you 'da man!

    hot damn, I’m going to GSR ‘10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudz View Post
    Ted - you 'da man!

    hot damn, I’m going to GSR ‘10

    PM sent
    PM Received and answered.

    You will not only go to GSR, but I will make sure you get to drive part of it also. Can not come all that way and just Co-Pilot, it just can not work that way....
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelnzj View Post
    Meeting around 0700 on Friday morning at loon lake overspill.

    Friday- We will meet at the trail head (Loon Lake) in the morning and be on the trail by 8:00 am.
    Saturday- Hang out at the springs (if we make it there on friday).
    Sunday- We will exit the trail (from Rubicon Springs and up Cadillac Hill).
    Ron & Shawn, just curious as to how you guys did it in years past but did guys camp out by Loon Thursday night? I'm 99% sure that will probably be my plan as it's a 4.5 hour drive for me from the Bay Area and I'd rather relax the night before as opposed to driving up there the morning of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mochisme View Post
    I will make sure you get to drive part of it also. Can not come all that way and just Co-Pilot, it just can not work that way....
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