my 5.9limited

[Goosed76]

The axle and body side mounts are coming off? I know 3 links are common, but losing the only UCA can ruin your day with a 3 link, placing a bend in the center of the link weakens it- the gusset helps, but how much? And how is it mounted on the body end? Ask these guys about shearing UCA mounts off the body....

[Jeeperoni91]

actually a 3 link is a pretty common setup that is what the xrra buggys are using. .

with full hydro and no UCA's that are cut and welded back together

[kfab]

with full hydro and no UCA's that are cut and welded back together

just because you cant weld worth a shit doesnt mean i cant! as ive said i am a CERTIFIED welder also what the hell does full hydro have to do with this

[Jeeperoni91]

just because you cant weld worth a shit doesnt mean i cant! as ive said i am a CERTIFIED welder also what the hell does full hydro have to do with this

sorry i dont have a shiny fucking medal to show for spending money to learn how to weld...and learned by my own experience.


fabrication knowledge > certified welder

CERTIFIED welder - fabrication knowledge and safety = KFAB


did you not read responses about running a front 3 link on a street zj?

[ajmorell]

just because you cant weld worth a shit doesnt mean i cant! as ive said i am a CERTIFIED welder also what the hell does full hydro have to do with this

Certified welder or not you obviously have very little knowledge of what you are doing. That UCA is just asking for trouble. If you are lucky it will break on the trail, at least that way it won't kill anyone like it will WHEN it fails on the road.

[Goosed76]

This kid can't win....

[Jeeperoni91]

Have you seen the pictures?

[Goosed76]

Yes, several times.... ::shudders::
Being a certified welder does not mean you understand basic suspension design principles apparently. Sure, the old setup was very hack-ish and very unsafe- but this 3 link makes little improvement... buy a LA kit, install it, and save someone the funeral cost of their first born....

[BigDaveZJ]

You could be the fawkin Chuck Norris of welding, but that doesn't guarantee a good suspension design.

[kfab]

my point is it is not going to break. and yes i do know a thing or two about suspension design. for my application it works perfect also i drive 60 miles round trip every day to trade school. so no i havent spent money to become certified i am just taught by one of the best in the buisness (Jim Casey) and it does fine on the streed handles very well actually and i dont run sway bars.

[Jeeperoni91]

You are truely getting dumber with every post

[kfab]

Yes, several times.... ::shudders::
Being a certified welder does not mean you understand basic suspension design principles apparently. Sure, the old setup was very hack-ish and very unsafe- but this 3 link makes little improvement... buy a LA kit, install it, and save someone the funeral cost of their first born....

ill gladly put on a nice bought la kit ya wanna buy it for me?

[ajmorell]

my point is it is not going to break. and yes i do know a thing or two about suspension design. for my application it works perfect also i drive 60 miles round trip every day to trade school. so no i havent spent money to become certified i am just taught by one of the best in the buisness (Jim Casey) and it does fine on the streed handles very well actually and i dont run sway bars.

Whether or not you know anything about suspension design is one thing but I'll guarantee from your previous posts you don't understand shit about the strength of materials, how welds affect them, and ways to properly fix what you've already fucked up.

[IndyZJ]

This is as close to constructive criticism as I'm going to get:

1. Do you really need the bend/ cut in the uca? It doesn't matter how well you can weld or how many gussets you throw at it, it is hella weak compared to a straight piece of steel. It doesn't look like you need it there to clear the floor even at full stuff (especially thanks to your lower shock mounts). Even if a straight link did hit the floor, you could persuade the floor out of the way with a bfh. Or consider going back to radius arms. As a general rule, 3 links in buggies use much larger hardware than what came from the factory, especially on the UCA. Also, I seriously doubt ANY comp buggy would weigh the same as a ZJ. Even if your UCA holds, the bolt is a huge weak link.

2. Are those lower mounts just tabs welded to the unibody? Even RK did more than that for their mounts. At least copy tereflex's unibody side mounts; if not, make or buy a crossmember like claytons. Welding tabs to a suitable FRAME is acceptable, but ZJs obviously don't have those.

3. Are you using any jam nuts? What's keeping the control arms from turning and falling apart?

If you are a certified welder, you at least have the potential to put together a safe suspension. Nobody here wants some hobbled together piece of shit to fall apart on the road, potentially killing yourself and others, and giving us as people who modify our vehicles a bad name. It is your rig and your life and you can do what you want, but when it comes to public safetey, you are responsible for what you put together. It's much better than before, but it still needs some refinement before it's good to go.

[Jeeperoni91]

This isn't jeepforum dude, most of us actually know shit

[kfab]

This isn't jeepforum dude, most of us actually know shit

i do know alot about this i have hung out at blue torch fab alot and have learned quite a bit and i have seen alot of people do the same thing to the lower cas as i have done to the upper

[Jeeperoni91]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[kfab]

sorry i dont have a shiny fucking medal to show for spending money to learn how to weld...and learned by my own experience.


fabrication knowledge > certified welder

CERTIFIED welder - fabrication knowledge and safety = KFAB


did you not read responses about running a front 3 link on a street zj?

ive been welding since i was 11 years old i have litterally grown up in a shop also i have never broken anything i have built only factory stuff

[kfab]

This isn't jeepforum dude, most of us actually know shit

so every body on here who buys and bolts on their suspension is now a suspension expert because they know how to turn a wrench

[UTChavok]

i do know alot about this i have hung out at blue torch fab alot and have learned quite a bit and i have seen alot of people do the same thing to the lower cas as i have done to the upper

Id like you to take that over to blue torch and tell us what they say about it.

[zj95maxx]

This thread brings the funny without trying

[kfab]

finally got some pics of the new goodies

my dana 44hd and dana 60 200 bones

l







scored this yesterday afternoon. found it in the back of one of my freinds truck



sandblasted it then epoxy primed



also got a set of shakerbuilt histeer arms for free

[Jeeperoni91]

Shouldn't you be in school during the day

[UTChavok]

Are you putting in a chevy tc and transmission?

[AgitatedPancake]

Im 99% sure you dont want paint on any of the mating surfaces, have fun removing it from the hub mating surface, steering arm mating surface (and threads) and maybe balljoint holes? The paint might make it hard to get balljoints in