Best way to carry spare gas?

[Tenow]

So I'm just kind of rambling off ideas here, it's the way my brain works.

Long story short, I want > 1000 mile range in my grand. The obvious answer is to just carry more gas.

The original idea I had was to just have 10 jerry cans to bring total fuel capacity up to 75 gallons. With 10 of them, it's super compartmentalized so if there is a leak the most I could lose is 5.28 gallons (20 liters), in a pinch I could grab one or two and walk out for more gas, and it would be easy to take them all off and toss them in my shed when I don't need them.

The downside of that was when I figured out I'd need to put them somewhere, and the only place I really can fit them would be the roof. Even if I put 4 on the rear bumper, that would still leave 6 up top, and that's somewhere over 200 extra pounds in the worst place possible. I'm already planning on having a ton of stuff on my roof, what's a safe weight limit?

I don't mean when will the roof start caving in, I mean when will I start rolling over when I try to change lanes and fun stuff like that.

[AgitatedPancake]

You knew the question was coming, Why?

Or better yet, where?

[Katesdad]

Its really not realistic. But a 32 gallon racing cell where the stock one is, would be a good start. Some lift springs in the rear.

[IndyZJ]

The most realistic solution I can come up with would be a big flat secondary fuel cell in the cargo area. I have no idea how many gallons that would be, but something about the size of the floor back there and about 6" tall should hold quite a bit. I'd think it would have to be custom.

Again, why?

[canadian_driver]

zip lock bags, they're smaller and you can stuff em anywhere

[BigDaveZJ]

The most realistic solution I can come up with would be a big flat secondary fuel cell in the cargo area. I have no idea how many gallons that would be, but something about the size of the floor back there and about 6" tall should hold quite a bit. I'd think it would have to be custom.

Again, why?

You would also need to make sure it was properly vented if it's inside the cab.

The only thing I can think of is some super insane expedition wheeling, or some mad max end of the world type stuff, so I'll move this to the expedition forum.

[Tenow]

I guess I can deal with having a couple on the bumper, but more would be better.

The whole idea was to have a ton of gas so I can pass through either areas with no gas at all or hostile gas prices.

Next year I have to be in Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego Argentina for a trip to Antarctica. That's already set in stone, I'm going no matter what. I still have to figure out how I'm going to get there. I want to drive, and I'm pretty sure that's how I am going to do it. If I'm going to drive to the southern most city in the world, I figure I might as well start in Prudhoe Bay, so I get to cross the entire panamerican highway. I'm researching the hell out of crossing the darien gap, if I can find a cheap enough way to ship the car around it I'll do that.

The bigger question right now is if I'm going to drive my jeep or not. One of my friends is trying real hard to talk me into using the new FJ Cruisers for the trip, and I'm a sucker for a working AC.

[Tenow]

You would also need to make sure it was properly vented if it's inside the cab.

The only thing I can think of is some super insane expedition wheeling, or some mad max end of the world type stuff, so I'll move this to the expedition forum.

I didn't even know there was an expedition forum.

[Cody]

That sounds like an epic trip. You may want to jump over to www.expeditionportal.com for some info on planning.

As for carrying that much fuel, I'd suggest a small expedition trailer. If you're going to be that far out there and that worried about hostile areas, you're going to want to carry a lot of spare stuff and a lot of food/water. I would look into a small trailer like an m416, m101 or some of the Adventure Trailer stuff.

[Ted_Z]

Wow, 1000 miles? At 15mpg that's 67 gallons. With a 20 gallon stock tank you'll still need to tripple your capacity.

Pull the rear seats and have a custom tank(s) built to fit in that area. You don't want to add ~ 275 pounds of fuel over the rear springs only. Outside of that, pull a trailer.

[fpkites]

Sheer curiosity here - are there laws in place anywhere with regard to transporting that much fuel in a passenger vehicle? State lines? Country borders?

[Matt]

If I were to pick a vehicle for this, it'd be the FJ80. (No way I'd use the new FJ cruiser)

Sounds like a hell of a trip. Hell, just to Prudhoe Bay is a hellova trip.

[Cody]

I would choose a toyota also...an fj80 or a tacoma. Actually, a Tacoma could solve your fuel carrying problems with it's cargo capacity.

Toyota's are much easier to find parts and service for in foreign countries, and they blend in better. The last thing you really want to do in some of those areas is stand out like a sore thumb.

[CSLOFFROAD_COM]

Y don't you lift the vehicle and just use a set of Diesel side tanks. Those tanks can hold around 50 gallons. You do realize that you'd be adding (8.33 * 75 = 624.75 lbs). You may just want to buy one of those offroad trailers and drag that behind! I gotta tell ya, if you came back with a story about how you were arrested for smuggling fuel, I would wet myself!

[nate]

Yes. I know you can't have a tank in a pickup bed over 100 or 110 gals without it being placarded and the truck/driver probably licensed... it's considered a "tanker" at that point. I bed something like that applies to fuel cans as well.

Sheer curiosity here - are there laws in place anywhere with regard to transporting that much fuel in a passenger vehicle? State lines? Country borders?

[hkszx2]

i wouldnt trust the 5.2 l motor to make it that far! or the shitty trans

[IndyZJ]

i wouldnt trust the 5.2 l motor to make it that far! or the shitty trans

My ZJ with a 5.2 has gone 1,000 miles 190 times with no catastrophic failures... all depends on how it's maintained.

That said, I'd rather drive through Central/ South America in a 4 cyl. Toyota pikcup to blend in better if for nothing else. Those things are everywhere south of the border.

[dp96zj]

I bet the Grand could make the trip, just stay on top of the oil changes

Regardless of what you're driving, take plenty of pics and share em with us.

Good Luck!

[jarrod]

If it were me, I would build a small trailer around something like this
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Put it low in the trailer to keep COG down. with the 20 gallon tank and this, you have 80 gallons combined.

[greengc4x4]

i wouldnt trust the 5.2 l motor to make it that far! or the shitty trans

i drive 1000 miles a week in my 5.2, no problems

[hkszx2]

Im sorry im just bitter about having to replace the motor and trans a month apart from each other lol

[zj-monster]

With the money you're gonna spend filling up those tanks, why not just hit the gas station where ever you're going?

Are there gas stations where you're going?

[AgitatedPancake]

With the money you're gonna spend filling up those tanks, why not just hit the gas station where ever you're going?

Are there gas stations where you're going?

I guess I can deal with having a couple on the bumper, but more would be better.

The whole idea was to have a ton of gas so I can pass through either areas with no gas at all or hostile gas prices.

Next year I have to be in Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego Argentina for a trip to Antarctica. That's already set in stone, I'm going no matter what. I still have to figure out how I'm going to get there. I want to drive, and I'm pretty sure that's how I am going to do it. If I'm going to drive to the southern most city in the world, I figure I might as well start in Prudhoe Bay, so I get to cross the entire panamerican highway. I'm researching the hell out of crossing the darien gap, if I can find a cheap enough way to ship the car around it I'll do that.

The bigger question right now is if I'm going to drive my jeep or not. One of my friends is trying real hard to talk me into using the new FJ Cruisers for the trip, and I'm a sucker for a working AC.

Yeah............

[Tanto]

Because sometimes you go places where there are no gas stations.

One more on top and two off the rear and you are set.

[ZJ TINS]

Try army surplus water trailers, some are quite small 200-400 gallon. You can park it and come back to it later.


400 gal army water trailer
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