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  1. #1 Rock Slider Build 
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    I started to build my sliders today. Mt basic design is pretty simple. My rocker panel will be guarded by a piece of 71" long 2x4 steel that is a 1/4" thick. I will have 2 frame mount per-side that will be bolted to the frame in the end.

    Today I got the first bracket made. Its pretty solid imo. I still have some grinding to do to it. The brackets will mount in front of the Kevin's frame mounts that my car has. I built the bracket with a piece of 1/4" angle iron that is 3 1/4" x 4 3/4". The arm off of the angle iron is constructed of a piece of 1/4" 2"x2". I set the angle iron into the 2x2 to get below the pinch seam at the rocker panel. The piece of 2x4 will be 8 3/4" away from the frame mount. Which means the end of the rock slider will be 13" away from the frame.



    Last edited by dangerousdave; 03-25-2008 at 12:23 PM. Reason: see post below
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    Ready for install... home brew sliders
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    steal = to take without permission
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    look heavy but VERY solid. im excited to see them all mounted up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted_Z View Post
    steal = to take without permission
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    crap..... my bad I do that all the time.
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    Ready for install... home brew sliders
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    Quote Originally Posted by piku303 View Post
    look heavy but VERY solid. im excited to see them all mounted up.
    I bought 180 lbs of steel. That allowed for me to have some extra for when I start to toy with the idea of bumpers. The 2x4 will be great in the frame for mounts.
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    Ready for install... home brew sliders
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    I got a bit further on the sliders today. I HAD all of the the brackets built and ready to weld to the 2x4 but a miscalculation is making me rebuild the rear 2 brackets.


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    Ready for install... home brew sliders
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    Your welds are cold.
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    how is 285mm 10.3"
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgitatedPancake View Post
    how is 285mm 10.3"
    To the square root of 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadjans View Post
    Your welds are cold.
    Yeah I'm still learning about welding. Thats why i started with a project like this instead of a bumpers. I'm welding at 175 amps with 1/8" 7018. bump up to 200 amps?
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    Ready for install... home brew sliders
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    How thick is your material? Either up the amps or go to a smaller rod.
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    all of the material is 1/4". Im working with 1/8" 7018 rods.
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    Ready for install... home brew sliders
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    how should I connect these to the body of the jeep??? bolts or welds?
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    Ready for install... home brew sliders
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerousdave View Post
    how should I connect these to the body of the jeep??? bolts or welds?
    if your new to welding... do you think your good enough to do the unibody welding?

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    welds will distribute the load more evenly along the unibody. But i personally like the bolt on style just in case i have to take them off to fix welds or replace something.
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    What i cant weld i know my dad can. He was a pro welder for several years. I was just wondering if yall had found a real advantage to it either way. I mean drilling the frame sucks.
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    if you mount weld them to the far front and rear your welding to 1/8 inch not 1/16th inch. shouldn't be an issue.
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    Both. I welded on steel plates where mine mount and taped them for grade 8 bolts. This way I get the advantage of weld on distribution and bolt removability.
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    Looks good man
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsteves View Post
    Both. I welded on steel plates where mine mount and taped them for grade 8 bolts. This way I get the advantage of weld on distribution and bolt removability.

    This is probably the best way to go. It would be nice to make them removable and on top of all that its easier to weld a small piece of plate instead of a large slider.
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    Ready for install... home brew sliders
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    If it was me, I would sleeve the uni-frame with weld and bolt, then bolt the sliders to that. Win/Win. That said, it will lower your mounting point some since you already have the mounting brackets built. I'll come back to that in a moment. One thought is to notch the lower section of the sleeves so the sliders are up as high as possible and bolt through the uni-frame sleeve horizontally.

    Now for the part that is going to hang you up. You might concider welding some scrap plate at an angle to the bars that hold the sliders and bracket that mounts to the uni-frame. Try and keep things tucked up and/or avoid sharp angles that will catch things.
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    on the welding question, you must be running at AC machine to be running 175 amps and having you welds being cold like that. and try to have you welds more fluid, those gaps probably have slag under them and are not as strong. just MHO
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    thanks for the great ideas guys.... I really cant wait to get these built. It sucks that I have been so busy with school. But in 2 weeks i'll be done with that for a few months.
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    i think somebody else touched on this, but the under side of your L-mount were the bar comes in off the slider, that litte piece of steel is gonna be a boat anchor, it will find ever log and rock you cross, grind it, or weld a cover plate there at an angle so it slides instead of catching.


    and i would sugest you have your dad weld the plates to the unibody, its wafer thin in places and its supper easy to burn a whole
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