Diesel ZJ

[fsjtrash]

I know you can't buy one, but you must've had to pay ome price for the truck you got it out of? Just wondering for an estimate... I DEFINATELY need a new engine... 4.0 was dead when I bought it, 130000k ago

[nateman54]

The install looks very clean. Good job. I am also impressed with the mileage, but I have a couple questions.

How is the power compaired with the gas motor?

Do you have any problems with the electronics, like the BCM?

[AndyZJ]

Who asked for an Isuzu engine in a Grand? Here it is...
http://www.canev.com/Jeep.html

[DieselZJ]

I know you can't buy one, but you must've had to pay ome price for the truck you got it out of? Just wondering for an estimate... I DEFINATELY need a new engine... 4.0 was dead when I bought it, 130000k ago

The engines go for about 2500 on ebay. The little things you'll need add up in a hurry though.

The install looks very clean. Good job. I am also impressed with the mileage, but I have a couple questions.

How is the power compaired with the gas motor?

Do you have any problems with the electronics, like the BCM?

Driving power is about the same as the 318. I'm sure 0-60 times are slower, but it has no trouble at all getting up to speed. I've pulled 5000lbs with it, and it towed easier than when it had a 318.

I don't have any problems with electronics. The alternater still produces the same 14 volts.


I weighed my jeep today. It weighs in at 4750.

[cwm]

Dude make up your mind! for sale not for sale?????????

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=280158624701

[RebelGT]

what speedo sensor did you use for your 231?

[DieselZJ]

Dude make up your mind! for sale not for sale?????????

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=280158624701

I know....seriously



i used the stock speedo sensor for the original 249 transfercase, i just plugs in and works.

[RebelGT]

mine doesn't seem to work for some reason, odd, I'll have to look into that a lil more.

[DieselZJ]

mine doesn't seem to work for some reason, odd, I'll have to look into that a lil more.

The gear is off center, so you may have to turn the whole sensor in order for the gears to make contact.

[DieselZJ]

[ZJProject]

Nice work on the diesel ZJ! I originally saw a thread on the Turbo Diesel Register referencing the eBay listing and I'm glad I found more pictures.

Since this is my first post on here - I'll introduce myself (I posted the exact same thing on Pirate4x4 not too long ago...sorry for the repeat if anyone saw it there...).

Howdy - name here is Matt.

I've been a diesel fanatic since the age of about 3 back when the only diesels around were indirect injection, slow, noisy, fast as Yugo's, etc. A lot has changed since then, but the diesel addiction has only got worse.

Anywho - of note to the folks here is my ZJ project. I'm swapping a Cummins "ISB 170" and Allison LCT-1000 into my '96 ZJ. As you can imagine, the Allison 5-speed automatic flat out does NOT fit the OEM transmission tunnel - so out came the Sawzall to massage a 12" x 24" hole in the firewall and I'm nowhere near done cutting yet.

I'm having pretty major clearance issues with the OEM trailing/control arms for the D30. The engine is MUCH taller and a quite a bit wider than the OEM 4.0L I6 - so space is at a premium. I'd rather not lift it 7" which is what other folks have done to be able to fit Cummins 4BT's under the hood of ZJ's. So, I'll be here researching things here on the forums to keep the lift to a minimum (I want it to be a street sleeper and maybe capable of being a daily driver...) yet still be able to make everything fit.

I even considered making the Jeep a 2wd rig since an a-arm front suspension would be mostly static and more easily managed inside the 'frame rails'. (...the Allison LCT-1000 is from a 2wd application, but can be swapped for a 4x4 tailshaft housing if I think I can make a go of it with 4x4...) I don't wheel at all anymore and I'm primarily building the Jeep for the fun of it and to do something different.

A long-arm suspension might work just fine, but I'd like to see pictures of a setup like that installed, but with the engine removed...so I can see if I gain anything by having the lower control arms combined with the uppers (basically a radius arm setup).

Here are some older pics of the project, but in the next 6 months or so, I should be able to devote more time to it.

http://picasaweb.google.com/CumminsT.../JeepZJProject

Cheers,

Matt

[SuicideTireZJ]

Matt, you should start your own thread

[ZJProject]

Good call; I had planned on doing that once I got back to work on it and had more photos/info.

I'll start one anyway - even if I haven't done much with it in far too long.

Thanks,

Matt

[suburbia4X4]

hot damn this is freakin awesome! i would definatly take that mileage over my 12-13 with the v8. pretty sure it sucks so bad because the exhaust pipe is pinched by the rear axle and the VC is just floating around inside the 249 so its like semi alltime 4x4 and just craptastic...i like the diesel though, very inspiring.

[phillyzj]

Good call; I had planned on doing that once I got back to work on it and had more photos/info.

I'll start one anyway - even if I haven't done much with it in far too long.

Thanks,

Matt

I'm glad to hear you are going to work on it again. That thread was the first inspiration I had for my 4BT Durango....which should be getting an NV4500 in the next month or so....wooohoooo no more slushbox!

[ILikeMud]

Been reading your build threads more.
Did you end up making a custom oil pan?

Possible to fit the motor in with just a short arm lift?

[cruisingram]

Sorry to resurect such an old thread- but I just obtained a 4bt motor. I have the perfect jeep ZJ for this swap- it is a 93 SE- so no electric windows or locks, no cladding. Perfect for hawaii! Bio Diesel is nearly a dollar a gallon cheaper and the difference is increasing. I have decided to pump my money into a vehicle that I can do everything I want to do with it- the big island is a series of a couple good roads with mostly rock lava roads and trails, 90% undeveloped. I haul horses all over the place to go special kine hunting and such. So I am collecting parts. I figure a 20-30k budget to finish entire truck, top to bottom.

So my point of resurecting this thread is this- when I do an online search- this is the most complete posting of the build of a Zj 4bt swap I can find online.


I have many questions- I see he used a A518 out of a truck and 231tcase. That is great. I am swapping out axles with Dana 60s from currie ent, and doing7 inch long arm lift described in this thread. But I wanted to know where he bought adapters or brackets and such. Also- lots more pics of other people and jeeps like this. It is rumored that this is actually a somewhat common swap- but it is fairly hard for me to find any info on the net about it.

Any help?

[phillyzj]

Sorry to resurect such an old thread- but I just obtained a 4bt motor. I have the perfect jeep ZJ for this swap- it is a 93 SE- so no electric windows or locks, no cladding. Perfect for hawaii! Bio Diesel is nearly a dollar a gallon cheaper and the difference is increasing. I have decided to pump my money into a vehicle that I can do everything I want to do with it- the big island is a series of a couple good roads with mostly rock lava roads and trails, 90% undeveloped. I haul horses all over the place to go special kine hunting and such. So I am collecting parts. I figure a 20-30k budget to finish entire truck, top to bottom.

So my point of resurecting this thread is this- when I do an online search- this is the most complete posting of the build of a Zj 4bt swap I can find online.


I have many questions- I see he used a A518 out of a truck and 231tcase. That is great. I am swapping out axles with Dana 60s from currie ent, and doing7 inch long arm lift described in this thread. But I wanted to know where he bought adapters or brackets and such. Also- lots more pics of other people and jeeps like this. It is rumored that this is actually a somewhat common swap- but it is fairly hard for me to find any info on the net about it.

Any help?

Lots of good ZJ info on this site for sure. for 4BT info, head over to 4btswaps.com and they will have all the info you need on the engine and transmission info.