PAP yesterday (last weekend for PAP)

[matts96zj]

I'm not sure where that happened since I'm not familliar with the park at all. I know it was the left side line down, the right was a wash-out (the line I should have taken). The last guy in my group (right behind me) in an XJ took that one without incident.

[Skyline]

Turtle was somewhat interesting. You would slide twenty yards or so, then you HAD to get off the brakes to make a tight turn. I guess lower gearing would really help in situations like that, as Matt said he just walked down. With my stock 3.73 gearing and 33's, i picked up way too much speed for comfort. Seems to me my ABS was on vacation as well. I'd love to know how the descent control in my Toy would have handled it, (I'll tell you in about 4 years when my wife gets a new SUV and I get to try it on the trails!)

[Skyline]

I read on the PAP forum that some guy rolled an XJ 60' down into a ravine on Sunday. Any of you guys hear about that? Was the guy hurt?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...07/IMG_0691.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...07/IMG_0692.jpg

[Sudz]

I read on the PAP forum that some guy rolled an XJ 60' down into a ravine on Sunday. Any of you guys hear about that? Was the guy hurt?

story goes - "There was a rig stuck on the hill, and he wanted to back up so he could get more speed to get up the hill, the XJ backed up, and put the ebrake on, got out while his 2 kids were in it, and it started to roll, he jumped back in to stop it but it was too late.. he was half way outside the jeep when it went off the hill.. he got tossed.. The kids were OKAY though.. his finger was cut up and thats about it.."

i saw the XJ on the trailer in the lot - i'm surprised the kids survived! - would have got photos, but my camera didn't survive the night out in my heep in the cold

[OverkillZJ]

Holy cow

[ILikeMud]

Shit!

[rockhardmj]

Parking lot:


Staging Area:



PAJeeper:



SirFuego:



TJBuffalo:



Rockfather:



LowBudget:



Group Shot:



More photos from Saturday can be found here:
http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/intensesupernova/Paragon 03Feb07/



Sunday's are here:
http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/intensesupernova/Paragon 04Feb07/

Some video from the weekend:
http://www.rockhardzj.com/wnyoffroad/2007.wmv
http://www.rockhardzj.com/wnyoffroad/rockfather.wmv

Pics from PA Jeeper's wife:
http://www.kodakgallery.com/eve647944590108


PA Jeeper




LowBudget




Rockfather




As always, if you want high-resolution photos, let me know.

[OverkillZJ]

Who's going back on the 10th? I'll be there.

[Skyline]

My heap is still broken from the trip on the 3rd.

[Rubber Chuck]

My heap is still broken from the trip on the 3rd.

What did you break?
Matt.....I'll be there Sunday

[OverkillZJ]

I'm heading home saturday night ;(

[Skyline]

What did you break?
Matt.....I'll be there Sunday

Not really carnage but just stuff that stopped working. My power steering pump gave out again and puked fluid all over, (crappy parts store Chinese shit this time), and my TC would not stay in gear. On every rough section I had to steer with one hand and pull on the TC lever with the other. The lever does go all the way to the back of the slot, so it's not an adjustment issue I think, it just pops forward with a bang and a whole lot of grinding if the trail gets technical and I'm not pulling back on it every minute. Kind of a PITA. Actually, I ended up wheeling a good part of the day in 4-Hi. From the last time wheeling, I thought this problem was due to the blown out motor mounts getting everything out of whack, but I fixed those and still have the problem. Anyway, I have a 242 on the way here now.

[mudforblood]

Not really carnage but just stuff that stopped working. My power steering pump gave out again and puked fluid all over, (crappy parts store Chinese shit this time), and my TC would not stay in gear. On every rough section I had to steer with one hand and pull on the TC lever with the other. The lever does go all the way to the back of the slot, so it's not an adjustment issue I think, it just pops forward with a bang and a whole lot of grinding if the trail gets technical and I'm not pulling back on it every minute. Kind of a PITA. Actually, I ended up wheeling a good part of the day in 4-Hi. From the last time wheeling, I thought this problem was due to the blown out motor mounts getting everything out of whack, but I fixed those and still have the problem. Anyway, I have a 242 on the way here now.

My ZJ and Xj both did that. Seemed like a chain going out. I just ripped the linkage off and it was fine. I have a theft deterent crowbar beside the seat I use to shift with. Its a good conv. piece when I get out and roll under and shift it then jump back in. Everyone's like WTF did you just do? It stays engaged no matter what, I thought it would pop out of gear but it doesnt.

[PatM]

I was there saturday with NNJC (http://northjerseyjeepclub.org/) and got stuck with a bunch of FJcrusiers and a 4runner...made me a bit angry. Sunday when back with some Jeff Daniels (http://www.jeffdanielsjeeps.com/) techs and had a blast.

take a look at some of the pics http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...last%20Hurrah/

thought this was gonna be the last time

[gsh]

My ZJ and Xj both did that. Seemed like a chain going out. I just ripped the linkage off and it was fine. I have a theft deterent crowbar beside the seat I use to shift with. Its a good conv. piece when I get out and roll under and shift it then jump back in. Everyone's like WTF did you just do? It stays engaged no matter what, I thought it would pop out of gear but it doesnt.

That sounds familiar, mine was due to bent crossmember throwing the linkage out.

Skyline, an adjustment might just be what you need. The way the geometry is the low position is more affected by the adjustment. Also if you haven't already you might want to remove the plastic "z" gate. It's inside just under the "brushes" covering the slot where the lever is. The tiny bit of extra throw might be enough to keep it in gear.

[Skyline]

That sounds familiar, mine was due to bent crossmember throwing the linkage out.

Skyline, an adjustment might just be what you need. The way the geometry is the low position is more affected by the adjustment. Also if you haven't already you might want to remove the plastic "z" gate. It's inside just under the "brushes" covering the slot where the lever is. The tiny bit of extra throw might be enough to keep it in gear.

I appreciate the advice, but my 242 just showed up from UPS, so I will probably not worry about the 249.

[Rubber Chuck]

I appreciate the advice, but my 242 just showed up from UPS, so I will probably not worry about the 249.

You get UPS shipments at 6:30 on Saturday Mornings?