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    Sounds like a mess... I wish there were things we could do to help. I've read the other threads on the PAP site btw... saying that there is not much the public can do.
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    Signed it and emailed it to others, I was #2328.
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    Well people are really stirrin this up. On Saturday, Feb. 3rd, Paragons monthly ride has turned into a benifit run to help with legal expenses.There will be 50/50 drawings, and hopefully some good media coverage as well. I am to understand that some vendors have stepped up and made donations for the prizes.They are lookin to pack the place. If you are on the right coast, feel free to come up for this one, they could use all the support they can get. Even if you aren't, feel free to make the trip.
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    this is going to be quite an event

    from the PAP forum: http://paragonap.com/forum/showpost....&postcount=265

    if you haven't yet, please sign the petition - it only takes a second of your time to show your support

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    i signed but i cant be there sat for work and my lift still hasnt arrived to get put on
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    Quote Originally Posted by hkszx2
    i signed but i cant be there sat for work and my lift still hasnt arrived to get put on
    So come on out Sunday...

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    I have a motorcycle convention i have to be at all weekend
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    So, uh, petitionspot.com has a crashed SQL server; I seriously wonder if the savePAP thread is the biggest load the sites seen... I for one sign once but have been back a dozen times to read others comments.
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    I'll be at their monthly ride this saturday. look for me
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    Yeah so us wheeler's partially tear up the woods and aren't very environmentally friendly -- and the greenies bitch about it. (Not citing Paragon specifically, because I know this dispute has nothing to do with the greenies).

    Yet people are willing to knock down a shit ton of trees, create a ton of noise pollution, breach a lease, and completely destroy part of the environment -- just because it creates jobs and money. Totally assdonculous.

    By the way, I'll be there this weekend along with some other WNYOffroad people. Save Paragon!
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    Anyone around Pittsburgh heading up? I'm not going to have time to get the buggy ready for even a dirt road th is week, however I'm ready to tow junk there if anyone has a rig and an open bitch seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OverkillZJ
    Anyone around Pittsburgh heading up? I'm not going to have time to get the buggy ready for even a dirt road th is week, however I'm ready to tow junk there if anyone has a rig and an open bitch seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirFuego
    Yet people are willing to knock down a shit ton of trees, create a ton of noise pollution, breach a lease, and completely destroy part of the environment -- just because it creates jobs and money. Totally assdonculous.
    i hear ya, brotha..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubber Chuck
    If you just wanna ride Bitch......I'll have a seat for you
    chuck, you taking a group out? - i was gonna run blacks with my own group - be kinda cool if we could wheel together - hell, i'll run blues or greens just so we can hang - let me know - btw, a fella we know in a white chevy pickup may make an appearance

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    More then likely I'll be guiding.....
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    the way that artical talked is that a judge is handing down a judgement tomorow. IF it goes for the land owner their may be no run sat if the judge throws them out. I'm no leagal pro but I would think this could be a posibility. If not i'll be there to show my support for the land and the sport. What kind of sucks is that he had a chance to buy the land and turned it down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slim616
    the way that artical talked is that a judge is handing down a judgement tomorow. IF it goes for the land owner their may be no run sat if the judge throws them out. I'm no leagal pro but I would think this could be a posibility. If not i'll be there to show my support for the land and the sport. What kind of sucks is that he had a chance to buy the land and turned it down.
    I don't think it would matter if he bought the land or not. If you have 4,000+ acres of land with nothing but trails on it, and the government wants to build a new airport, you will be kicked off your own land so fast you won't know what hit you. They will use eminent domain to take the land if you don't want to sell. I hate to say it, as I'm not a big fan of the use of eminent domain, but using it to build an airport is a least better than stealing someone's property to allow a private developer to build a shopping mall or condos.

    Since an outstanding lease is not much of an obstacle in the eminent domain process, and in theory eminent domain does grant land owners a fair market value for their property, I can only assume that kicking Paragon off the property is some part of a scheme to get MORE than market value for the property. Seems to me the FAA is getting the short end here, and Paragon is just caught in the crossfire. Or is it possibly that if the lease was upheld, forcing the government to use eminent domain, then Overland would be entitled to some portion of the payment????
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    I don't think thats the case here because its the land owner who is pushing the deal through not the state. The new owner is the one saying they want to invest and have a airport there. If the state was involved pargon would of been closed the day after they decided to build the airport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slim616
    I don't think thats the case here because its the land owner who is pushing the deal through not the state. The new owner is the one saying they want to invest and have a airport there. If the state was involved pargon would of been closed the day after they decided to build the airport.
    I you read the series of articles, you would see that the Federal Government is expected to put up the bulk of the close to $1B to build the airport. These local developers are just looking to cash in on a quick buck before the project starts.
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    short version:

    the lawyer representing the seller in court (trying to break the lease with paragon) is also the buyer!

    the lawyer is grabbing the property to flip it to the city for a quick, tidy profit - the lawyer is also a former city councilman with connections to the court (childhood friend of the judge)

    as stated earlier - regardless of the outcome - eminent domain would have been enforced

    stick a fork in this pig - she's done...
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    so no more Paragon?
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    Sounds like the lawyer's an ass.

    Anyways, MallCrawlin is sending a bunch of calendars down with Matt for the benefit raffle, hopefully it'll help!!
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    Thanks Dave......That's Very Cool!!
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