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Derek33
12-12-2005, 10:46 PM
Heres my jeep as of 12/12/05

header back 3" exhaust, magnaflow cat, FM s40
UC springs
2" spacers
doestech 3000 shocks
OME ss
Cragar soft 8's
Kumho 32" mudders

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/My%20car/Jeep12.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/My%20car/jeep14.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/My%20car/Jeep13.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/My%20car/jeep17.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/My%20car/jeep18.jpg

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
12-13-2005, 01:32 AM
welcome Derek. keeping it low with big tires is the way to go. Jeep looks good. :driving:

Kraqa
12-13-2005, 01:33 AM
those fender look to clean, i think someone needs to buy you a saw-z-all for X-mas.

ras2001wj
02-15-2007, 08:11 PM
damn, i saw "my lowrider" and expected to come in to a flame war......bummer.

ras2001wj
02-15-2007, 08:11 PM
by the way, how do you like thoose kuhmos?
im lookin at my tire options now

zjinprogress
02-15-2007, 09:58 PM
central mass huh? where abouts im all over ashburnham, westminster and gardner

Derek33
07-07-2007, 12:05 PM
before:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/Aaa.jpg

some fender work:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0691.jpg

3.5" super ride kit installed:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0741.jpg

Got bored at 3.5" after a day or two, put it up to 5" (5" front, 3.5" rear, going to add a 1" spacer right after i submit this post)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0757.jpg

now i just need some 33's

04WJfreedom
07-07-2007, 01:39 PM
Nice, looks good.

BigDaveZJ
07-07-2007, 01:58 PM
Merged your new pics to your old thread.

Derek33
07-07-2007, 02:35 PM
i completely forgot i put a thread in here earlier. thanks!

Derek33
08-06-2007, 01:45 AM
i no longer consider my jeep a lowrider.

new specs:

RE 5" lift. arms, tb's, shocks, springs, etc
rustys tie rod conversion (in the mail)
RE quick discos (in the mail)
33" baja claws (bought off gunthagunth)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0785.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0784.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0786.jpg

next im throwing a 242 in there, getting a rad support, maybe a steering box brace. im not sure if i want to get into lockers and such just yet.

any advice for upcoming parts?

Strada
08-06-2007, 03:35 AM
Looks good!!


any advice for upcoming parts?
Gears?? :smt002

Basti

BlaineWasHere
08-06-2007, 10:47 AM
Your fenders look really clean...

ajmorell
08-06-2007, 11:20 AM
Your fenders look really clean...


x2. That is making me think about saying screw flares and just doing what he did.

Derek33
08-06-2007, 01:35 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0787.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0788.jpg

trimming the front makes the fenders alot weaker, but its alot easier to hammer out any dents you get on the trail.

the pinstriping is terrible, i really need to redo that.

CLASH
10-01-2007, 05:20 PM
sweet man. those tires look great.

fsjtrash
10-04-2007, 11:06 PM
get rid of your cladding! then paint the whole bottom chunk black

Derek33
10-04-2007, 11:26 PM
i plan on getting rid of the cladding when i finally get some rock sliders. anyone have experience with rocker replacement sliders?

DerekL
10-05-2007, 01:08 AM
Maxx does...I can't believe everyone hasn't read that yet...

piku303
10-05-2007, 01:42 AM
for the front when you went form 3.5 to 5 did you add a 2 inch spacer and take out the isolator? im about to do the exact thing. are you running stock uppers as well? hows the ride now?

corrupt143
10-05-2007, 05:08 AM
Looks good.

Im assuming you got the rims with the tires from Gunth, so 15 x10's right? Whats the backspacing on them?

Derek33
10-05-2007, 10:06 AM
the way my suspension sits now is: in the front i have the 3.5" spring, kevins 2" spacer, and no isolator. in the rear i have the 3.5" spring, 1" spacer, and the stock isolator.

my arms are all mixed and matched. i have nth degree front uppers, teraflex front lowers, re rear lowers, and currently stock rear uppers. i want to find a pair of nth degree rear uppers but that company went out of business. their dual lock nut design works great so you can install the arms at both ends and adjust them while theyre still on.

i believe my 15x10" wheels are 4" of BS. i never really measured.

when i get home from school for the summer i plan on cleaning it up a bit. i want to clear out everything in the fenders and undercoat inside the fenders and under the body. i also want to remove the axles and clean those and paint them. if im lucky hopefully find a new rear axle to put in there instead.

here are a few new pics.

rustys steering. already hate it, JCR "one ton" is going in soon.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0815.jpg

242 t-case is in, and i installed a novak shift linkage kit
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0816.jpg

canadian_driver
10-05-2007, 10:12 AM
AEV bought the design

SteveO
10-05-2007, 02:36 PM
the way my suspension sits now is: in the front i have the 3.5" spring, kevins 2" spacer, and no isolator. in the rear i have the 3.5" spring, 1" spacer, and the stock isolator.

my arms are all mixed and matched. i have nth degree front uppers, teraflex front lowers, re rear lowers, and currently stock rear uppers. i want to find a pair of nth degree rear uppers but that company went out of business. their dual lock nut design works great so you can install the arms at both ends and adjust them while theyre still on.

i believe my 15x10" wheels are 4" of BS. i never really measured.

when i get home from school for the summer i plan on cleaning it up a bit. i want to clear out everything in the fenders and undercoat inside the fenders and under the body. i also want to remove the axles and clean those and paint them. if im lucky hopefully find a new rear axle to put in there instead.

here are a few new pics.

rustys steering. already hate it, JCR "one ton" is going in soon.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0815.jpg

242 t-case is in, and i installed a novak shift linkage kit
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0816.jpg
you wont regret the jcr upgrade, they are a local shop for me and they are where its at. cool people and cool stuff.

Derek33
10-05-2007, 03:20 PM
thats what i heard. i like how they build the product once the order has been made instead of mass producing and stocking them. it may take longer but it sounds better to me.

i wanted to go with the currie, but its just too expensive and i wasnt sure it would fit. the main reason i went with the rustys kit was to get the drag link away from my sway bar mounts. the currie is identical to the stock steering but beefier, so i didnt want to risk 400 bucks on a product that didnt fit.

Derek33
11-21-2007, 07:07 PM
got some 15x8's instead of the 15x10's

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0899.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0900.jpg

and the jcr steering

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_0903.jpg

Derek33
11-21-2007, 07:09 PM
15x10's are for sale. great condition. i have pictures for people interested.

zj95maxx
11-21-2007, 08:20 PM
here is my thread on cutting out the rockers

http://mallcrawlin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12046&highlight=rocker+cutting+outage

LILL ZJ
11-22-2007, 11:37 AM
How about the rusty's steering, is it for sale? Why doesnt anyone like that steering?

BigDaveZJ
11-22-2007, 11:44 AM
How about the rusty's steering, is it for sale? Why doesnt anyone like that steering?

Is your search button broken or something? Most of us pretty much despise anything Rusty's, and his steering is notoriously weak and sloppy.

adam99wj
11-22-2007, 11:52 AM
that JCR steering is pretty beefy , looks good dude

LILL ZJ
11-22-2007, 12:40 PM
What would i search "opinions"? Just a question, since i've never ran one and was thinking about it, but thanx for clearing that up.

Derek33
11-22-2007, 08:51 PM
the rustys is for sale, but i dont recomend it. hense, the reason im selling it on ebay and not the forums, i dont wish this steering upon my fellow forumers.

the jcr is great, its huge.

i think my lca's are causing a wobble on the left side of my jeep over bumps, so i plan on replacing those and doing something about my track bar. maybe claytons kit or kevins kit.

BigDaveZJ
11-22-2007, 09:15 PM
What would i search "opinions"? Just a question, since i've never ran one and was thinking about it, but thanx for clearing that up.


Searching "Rusty's" should give you all of the answers you need.

alteredxj
11-23-2007, 08:05 AM
do yo have a link for jrc? i love the look and the beaf and so want to get rid of the Rusy's set up i have now.

zj95maxx
11-23-2007, 10:57 AM
do yo have a link for jrc? i love the look and the beaf and so want to get rid of the Rusy's set up i have now.

www.jcroffroad.com

Derek33
11-23-2007, 02:14 PM
i recomend when you buy the steering you order two of the poly spacers for the tre's on the kuckles. it limits their rotation and prevents a dead spot in the steering.

alteredxj
11-23-2007, 02:27 PM
how do you think JRC compairs to rock krawler

zj95maxx
11-23-2007, 02:45 PM
i recomend when you buy the steering you order two of the poly spacers for the tre's on the kuckles. it limits their rotation and prevents a dead spot in the steering.
i am ordering those right now..i have a big ass spot in my steering wheel that does nothing because the TREs have to rotate, thanks for reminding me to buy those

Derek33
01-19-2008, 05:33 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/353.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/352.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/351.jpg
35's are biiiiiig

Derek33
01-21-2008, 12:12 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeep12-1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeep13.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeep15.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeep16.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeep17.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeep14.jpg

Jeeperoni91
01-21-2008, 01:00 AM
what happened to the claws?

Derek33
01-21-2008, 01:09 AM
claws just provided a rough ride on the road that i couldnt bare anymore. sold them to a buddy of mine thats gonna use them as wheeling tires.

Derek33
01-22-2008, 04:04 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeep25.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeep23.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeep22.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeep19.jpg

Jeeperoni91
01-22-2008, 04:40 PM
your jeep is sexy as hell

danzay
01-25-2008, 02:04 AM
Have you noticed any rubbing in the rear? At ride height it doesnt look like you have any space between the back of the rocker and the front of the tire and with short arms as soon as it starts to articulate it would seem to draw them closer. The reason i ask is because i have pretty much the same set up on 33's with a little more trimming in the rear and was wondering if i could run 35's with out going long arm.

Derek33
01-25-2008, 11:23 PM
i havent had a chance to really flex it out much since ive been at school. i imagine they wont rub, but you never know. right now my LCA length is at the recomended length RE provides for the 3.5" kit, so if necessary i can lengthen them a bit and trim the rear bumper.

my fronts are out pretty far, i have to do something about the charcoal canister.

nierace
01-26-2008, 01:51 PM
Looks great, what are you running for gears ?

Derek33
01-26-2008, 02:16 PM
Looks great, what are you running for gears ?

:o 3.73's.

the DD factor isnt that bad, besides the gas mileage. im not sure how they will perform on a hill climb or trying to get over a steep rock. hopefully 4lo can help me out a bit.

Id love 4.56's, but gears are just so expensive. hopefully in the summer when i can work alot more hours i can get some gears.

fpkites
01-26-2008, 04:53 PM
Have you noticed any rubbing in the rear? At ride height it doesnt look like you have any space between the back of the rocker and the front of the tire and with short arms as soon as it starts to articulate it would seem to draw them closer. The reason i ask is because i have pretty much the same set up on 33's with a little more trimming in the rear and was wondering if i could run 35's with out going long arm.

When you stuff, the tire/wheel goes back, not forward. As long as you can clear the front of the fender when you droop, you're fine. Intelligent use of bumpstop extensions will keep the tire from coming in contact with the top of the fender.

Derek33
03-09-2008, 02:53 PM
Installed Kevins Track bar conversion and a new steering stabilizer. my buddy had this RC one in his garage that he never used so i gave it a shot. right now i like it better then my OME but it all depends how long it will last.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00507.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00506.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00504.jpg

I hate NE weather/rust.

Clayton long arms going on this monday.

Derek33
03-10-2008, 04:24 PM
Just got back from Claytons shop in CT. install took about 3 hours and the guys there were very friendly and down to earth. i also got to check out a jk they were working on. unfortunatly on the way home i got pulled over by a state cop that insisted i needed mud flaps :roll:
difference from short arms to long arms are night and day.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00509.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00511.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00508.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00518.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00519.jpg

tywilson88
03-10-2008, 05:30 PM
you dont need no fuckin mud flaps, your vehicle is registered as a station wagon. tell that cop to fuck off

Derek33
03-10-2008, 05:50 PM
is that for real?

Jeeperoni91
03-10-2008, 07:14 PM
niiiiiiiice, i like the JK too

sandman
03-11-2008, 09:22 AM
wouldnt that be the second time the cops have hassled you about your tires.

ooh and lets see some more pics.

zj95
03-11-2008, 11:35 AM
yeah... ZJ's are regesterd as station wagons... In most states station wagons dont need mud flaps

Derek33
03-11-2008, 06:51 PM
did some maintenance work on the jeep today.

got some cheapo truck bedliner in a rattle can to do my fenders and unibody rails

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00520.jpg

did the rear diff fluid

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00522.jpg

got the wrong gasket so i hadda wrap up for a trip back to cap

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00523.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00524.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00527.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00529.jpg

DJJordache
03-11-2008, 10:13 PM
I was gonna say how in the hell did they install longarms in only 3 hours but I looked again and saw you only got the front setup. So when are you getting the rears also?
Last week I was out of town and rode around in a buddies one ton dodge cummins for a week and it rides ok... but when I got back home and hopped back in my ZJ I forgot how smooth it rode:D

Derek33
03-11-2008, 11:37 PM
im waiting on the rear untill i get a nice axle under my jeep. i also wanted to look into gears first. we'll see

CanadaDry
03-11-2008, 11:48 PM
How does it ride compared to before with just the front done? Also what did you pay just for the front of claytons set up if you don't mind my asking? Looks good by the way too:)

Derek33
03-12-2008, 12:35 PM
the front end of the jeep just floats over bumps and dips in the road, but you can still feel the ass end get tossed around a bit and take the bumps pretty hard.

it was around 870 for the arms, 90 an hour for installation, 25 for parts (grinders, paint, etc) and 50 for tax. overall it was around 1200

Gravesdigger
03-12-2008, 06:05 PM
it was around 870 for the arms, 90 an hour for installation, 25 for parts (grinders, paint, etc) and 50 for tax. overall it was around 1200

wow! get some buds to help next time

Derek33
03-28-2008, 10:30 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/newwheels2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/newwheels1.jpg

DerekL
03-29-2008, 08:02 PM
BLING BLING!

fpkites
03-29-2008, 08:42 PM
Ow D! Fawker! :D

White out? Poser :rofl:

DerekL
03-29-2008, 10:47 PM
Straight up your jeep went from badass to old geezer in 2.5.

Derek33
03-29-2008, 11:46 PM
im going back to steelies on tueday.

got a good deal on those wheels from the townfair through clearence overstock sale and free services through wheel and tire package. after subtracting the free alignment and future alignment, free lifetime balancing, free flat repair, and free mounting and balancing, i only spent around 150 bucks for the 4 ar-23 wheels. also, the free services arent lost even if i switch wheels.

im driving down to my buddys shop and swapping my steelies back in and selling the ar-23's to make up for tire cost. i never really intended to keep the wheels.

if anyones interested in some 15x10 ar23's with like 50 miles on them, pm me.

fpkites
03-30-2008, 01:20 AM
Give them some gas station $2 sunglasses with them too :rofl:

Derek33
04-01-2008, 09:24 PM
old steelies are back on.

i really need some longer shocks... here are some pics at my buddys garage. he works at an acura stealership.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeepacura.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeepacura2.jpg

jsteves
04-01-2008, 10:07 PM
Fuck everyone. I liek my AR-23's. They look fine, I would leave the black out though. Bitch ass fuckers around here put 2 of mine with the black out and 2 with the white so I have to take it back. Fuckers.

ILikeMud
04-01-2008, 10:44 PM
That thing must have looked out of place at an Acura shop.

fpkites
04-01-2008, 10:58 PM
Fuck everyone. I liek my AR-23's. They look fine, I would leave the black out though. Bitch ass fuckers around here put 2 of mine with the black out and 2 with the white so I have to take it back. Fuckers.

Black out would almost make up for rims that give you a sunburn J - ALMOST :flipoff2:

Derek33
04-19-2008, 05:19 PM
newly painted fenders and cladding:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1045.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1046.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1047.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1050.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1051.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1054.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1055.jpg

MotoX5874
04-19-2008, 05:28 PM
looks sexcellent, i should paint mine black as well, what did you use?

Derek33
04-19-2008, 06:09 PM
just a generic brand rubberizer

Derek33
04-20-2008, 03:22 PM
also decided to relocate my charcoal canister.
simple bracket i found in the garage did the truck. mounted it above my PA speaker and air horn.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1060.jpg

Derek33
05-01-2008, 04:59 PM
poser flex, never really gave the new long arms a test.
just finished up school so i can finally do some wheeling again. appears everything fits nicely.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00575.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00576.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00577.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00578.jpg

piku303
05-01-2008, 06:24 PM
i still dont think your really using those long arms. lets see some real flex man!

zj95maxx
05-01-2008, 08:31 PM
you can DEF get WAY more flex than that...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/babyd004.jpg

30 inch mudders

Derek33
05-07-2008, 05:08 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00579.jpg
1999 8.8. 100 bucks
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00581.jpg

MotoX5874
05-08-2008, 12:58 AM
with discs? :pissed:

get that sucker in there

zj95
05-08-2008, 01:07 AM
with discs? :pissed:

get that sucker in there

well duh....

Derek33
05-08-2008, 10:59 AM
disks, 3.73,s and an lsd

piku303
05-08-2008, 05:34 PM
disks, 3.73,s and an lsd

out of what?

jfowlzj95
05-08-2008, 05:42 PM
Guessing an Exploder.

Derek33
05-08-2008, 06:14 PM
2000 explorer, or 99 explorer. i forget.

did some grinding for about a half hour today.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00596.jpg

this axle look bent to you?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00602.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00603.jpg

my old man pointed it out. i can kind of see it. then again ive never had an axle in front of me like this.

fpkites
05-08-2008, 06:23 PM
Almost does look bent, but that could be camera lens "warp". Stick a straight edge on the tubes and see.

Derek33
05-08-2008, 10:02 PM
ill see what i can measure.

if it is bent... any way of fixing it?

zj95
05-08-2008, 10:30 PM
reto0b

DJJordache
05-08-2008, 10:43 PM
pull the axle shafts and look down the tubes for an easier visual if it is bent...

the first 8.8 I got from a junkyard was bent.... I'm lucky that they let me return it!

Derek33
05-08-2008, 10:54 PM
how do you seperate the tube from the diff housing?

DJJordache
05-08-2008, 11:01 PM
I don't think you really want to do that..... you will see 4 plugs that are pressed into the dif housing and they go down to hold the axle tube in place.... this is also why many people weld the tubes to the dif

DJJordache
05-08-2008, 11:05 PM
CLEAN OUT YOUR PM BOX!:rolleyes:

Derek33
05-09-2008, 12:08 AM
cleaned

Derek33
05-09-2008, 09:07 AM
I pinned a long straight edge the length of the axle between my diff cover and the housing. The more i look at it, the drivers axle appears to be bent forward.

is retubing an axle something difficult to do? or should i go buy another 8.8.

wheelNC94GC
05-09-2008, 10:19 AM
If you can get them for 100$ I would just go buy another one...after I tried returning the one you just bought.

The Dude
05-09-2008, 11:37 AM
If they dont take it back you could almost get your money back with the price of scrap now...

Derek33
05-12-2008, 06:12 PM
returned the axle. picking up a new one tomorrow morning. no LSD though. probably pick up a lockright for it.

since my main setback is not being able to weld, i may go a different rout with this axle.

origionally i was going to drop it off at my welder and have him weld on all the brackets. then do the rest of the prep work/brakes/ mounting myself.

what i may do, instead of buying the 5000 piece bracket set for the 5 link rear, i may convert to leaf springs. this would only require my welder to weld some unibody supports and 4 brackets on the body, then leaf spring perches and shock mounts on the new axle.

i understand a correctly built 4 link long arm rear will perform better, but leafs are alot more simple. the simplicity of the leafs is my selling point. just the two leafs and two shocks. i also think leafs will ride better then short arms at 5.5" of lift.

Casey L
05-12-2008, 07:49 PM
My mig setup cost me about $500 and I have gotten a lot of use out of it. They are worthwhile investments. MIG welding is VERY easy too.

ILikeMud
05-12-2008, 08:51 PM
Leafs will ride worse.
Just spend the money and do the long arms. It's worth it.

Derek33
05-13-2008, 03:21 PM
8.8 take two.

boneyard let me do an even swap.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00624.jpg

Derek33
05-13-2008, 05:17 PM
stupid question.

can you triangulate short arms? I dont have the money for long arms, and i want to eliminate my rear track bar.

Jeeperoni91
05-13-2008, 05:24 PM
rockkrawer makes a triangulation kit for the upper arms for short arms...i posted a link to it for you on nagca

DJJordache
05-13-2008, 05:28 PM
rockkrawer makes a triangulation kit for the upper arms for short arms...i posted a link to it for you on nagcaDON'T DO IT! the upper ca mounts are already weak enough! I (and several others on here) were ripping them off the frame in the stock configuration! they were not designed to have side loads on them like the RK triangulation kit makes it.

DJJordache
05-13-2008, 05:30 PM
that new 8.8 in the pic looks bent!






















Just joking:flipoff2:

Derek33
05-13-2008, 05:59 PM
i did hear about those 4 links causing some bad damage.

my only concern was because im still using that rear track bar bracket from RE.:screwy:

I guess ill suck it up and buy a jks unit.

ajmorell
05-20-2008, 01:46 PM
i did hear about those 4 links causing some bad damage.

my only concern was because im still using that rear track bar bracket from RE.:screwy:

I guess ill suck it up and buy a jks unit.


IIRC I only paid like $135 for my rear JKS TB.

Derek33
05-20-2008, 02:27 PM
ive been browsing the for sale forums trying to get a decent deal on it.

im trying to get the 8.8 on my jeep as cheap as possible, then upgrade from there. i want to see/show others how cheap an axle swap can be.

just ordered the yoke adapter from shaftmasters, and a set of stock axle brackets that a forumer here wasnt using. i also have to drop by napa and get a pinion seal.

right now ive spent around 250 including grinding discs etc. all i have left is some brake lines and a rear tb (not normally neaded for axle swaps)

also, with the 8.8 came the factory sway bar explorers use. alot beefier then my sway bar. Im gonna see what i can do to get this sway bar mounted to my jeep. anyone try this?

Derek33
05-20-2008, 04:33 PM
assembled some end links similar to the links that came with the addco front sway bar. lined the rear explorer bar up on my d44 and it lines up perfectly with my UCA mounts.

just have to get a bracket welded next to the bump for the upper part of the end link.

pics arent that great, i ran out of hands.

cleaned up the tubes
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00630.jpg

link assembly
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00626.jpg

complete bar
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00625.jpg

bushing lined up with UCA mount. endlink will be turned upside down. again, didnt have an extra hand to hold the end link to the body
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00627.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00628.jpg

DJJordache
05-21-2008, 10:03 AM
I don't know how well that is going to work out.... ideally you want the "legs" of the swap parallel with the ground or a few degrees up. right now I'm using my stock rear sway modified to work for now, until I get around to mounting up the TJ sway like several others have on here.

Derek33
05-21-2008, 01:06 PM
thats probably what ill look into.

i didnt know there was a sway bar issue till a couple days ago. maybe ill try to bend my current one.

1998jeepgrandcheroke
06-04-2008, 08:03 PM
nice rig. how do those baja claws handle in the mud?

Kirsch98ZJ
06-04-2008, 10:17 PM
Why bother with a rear swaybar, they are tiny anyways, as long as you keep your front on you wont miss that rear swaybar at all. It just seems like a lot of aggravation for nothing

MoonWorks
06-04-2008, 11:48 PM
rockkrawer makes a triangulation kit for the upper arms for short arms...i posted a link to it for you on nagca

I have the kit sitting here at the house if you are interested in it.

Both upper arms and the craddle/bracket that bolts to the rear axle. The cradle is for a d44.

Derek33
06-19-2008, 09:27 AM
droppin the 8.8 off at the welder monday (god i really need to learn how to weld)
and pickin up a hp30 this saturday

:best:

Derek33
06-23-2008, 11:56 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00633.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00635.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00637.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00639.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00640.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00641.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00642.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00644.jpg

Jeeperoni91
06-23-2008, 09:03 PM
nice looks good

Derek33
06-24-2008, 06:11 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1091.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1092.jpg

brackets are on the 8.8

MotoX5874
06-25-2008, 12:29 AM
nice but why didnt you get the tubes welded to the housing?
http://fototime.com/0F5DA56B59DDE09/standard.jpg

Derek33
06-25-2008, 12:54 AM
That was something i forgot to mention to my welder. :pissed:

Im sick of this not being able to weld burdon on my back. The next dollar i spend will be towards a welder. Thinking a Ready Welder so i can carry it with me on the trail, and some minor work at my house.

The guy who did the welding for me is the mechanic my dad has used for his landscaping/plow business repairs. hes a very fair guy, and doesnt charge an arm and a leg. he bases the majority of his work at 40-55 an hour.

I got hit with a 275 dollar welding bill :smt093

Whether thats fair is not isn't up to me, I've never welded before so I dont know how long this job should have took.

ajmorell
06-25-2008, 08:52 AM
Did you end up using stock bracketry for your 8.8, or did you buy a bracket set? It looks stock from the pics but I can't tell.

Derek33
06-25-2008, 10:19 AM
its factory bracketry from a set of d35 tubes i bought off djjordache. I would have taken them off my 44, but i want to jeep my 44 as complete as possible so i can sell it.

tywilson88
06-25-2008, 12:55 PM
haha. $275!!! thats half way to a 110 welder.

Derek33
06-25-2008, 05:38 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1095.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1096.jpg

trail damage

DJJordache
06-27-2008, 09:04 AM
those brackets look familiar:D and I would have welded the tubes also

ajmorell
06-27-2008, 10:15 AM
Wow, did that TRE just come apart? What did you do to cause that?

Derek33
06-27-2008, 10:18 AM
giving myself an alignment. the jamnut on the tre froze so i couldnt get it out. my guess is the heat i was using on the nut just melted the plastic-ish coating that sits inside the housing around the ball. a good tug at my wrench and it just popped free.

definatly use anti seise(sp) on your jamnuts.

Luckily 1-ton ends are guaranteed for life.

ajmorell
06-27-2008, 11:13 AM
giving myself an alignment. the jamnut on the tre froze so i couldnt get it out. my guess is the heat i was using on the nut just melted the plastic-ish coating that sits inside the housing around the ball. a good tug at my wrench and it just popped free.

definatly use anti seise(sp) on your jamnuts.

Luckily 1-ton ends are guaranteed for life.


Shit, I might have to loosen the jambs on mine and hit them with some anti-zeize...I doubt JCR put any on there.

Derek33
06-27-2008, 02:02 PM
my end might have been a lemon.

Ive never had a problem with my drag link jam nuts. my passenger side TRE was a pain but it did break free. This TRE wouldnt break free for the life of me.

even after cleaning the threads of the tie rod, my new TRE has a hard time getting in there. i check the threads over and over and im not crossthreading a single one.

Derek33
06-28-2008, 02:01 PM
Got the 8.8 painted

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1097.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1102.jpg

Everythings ready to get the axle in there. i took everything off the jeep except for the CA's and springs. Im waiting on my buddy who has 6-ton jack stands that are tall enough to hold the jeep up in the air.

Derek33
07-06-2008, 06:47 PM
Got the 8.8 on today.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00822.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00824.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00825.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00829.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00832.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00835.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00837.jpg

grandmaster
07-06-2008, 08:32 PM
Was it a pretty easy swap for ya? Do you know what you set your pinion angle at?

Derek33
07-06-2008, 10:15 PM
Swap was really easy. pinion was around 11 or 12 degrees

grandmaster
07-07-2008, 01:59 AM
Ok, thanks, im trying to get a number that i can work with. I'm at 3.5-4 inches of lift right now, but i want to get to about 7-8 max. I am doing my swap hopefully this week or next week, and i want the axle to be able to work when i get my lift done without having to reset the pinion angle, even though it will be slightly adjustable with my control arms.

Derek33
07-17-2008, 03:40 PM
no more angled out wheels thanks to new ball joints.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00854.jpg

replaced squeaky ujoint

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00855.jpg

explorer rear sway bar with f250 end links

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC00857.jpg

Casey L
07-20-2008, 05:46 PM
Looking good man. That green brakeclean sucks. I tried it and I hated it. The red stuff is much better.

Derek33
08-17-2008, 06:59 PM
Nothing special.

My center console would always creak and rattle... so i decided to make a new one.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC01088.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC01094.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC01096.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC01097.jpg

Derek33
09-18-2008, 10:34 PM
shitty cell phone pics.

Carpeted the center console.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/centerconsole1.jpg

and put on a sweet ass sticker

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/crawlerready.jpg

Derek33
11-09-2008, 01:41 PM
Came home from school for the weekend.

Got some better pics of the previous post and got to assemble my end links too.

All i have left is to grind off the head of the bolt and drill a hole for a lynch pin.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1155.jpg

Center console and dash mounted cb

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1156.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1157.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1158.jpg

Crawlerready!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1149.jpg

Derek33
03-13-2009, 06:52 PM
Bought 12ft of 2x5 3/16 steel today. Tomorrow morning will be the commencement of a front bumper build.

:bling:

Derek33
03-15-2009, 07:24 PM
Shitty cell pics.

Got the brackets in there, about to get notched.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/bumper3.jpg

notched the brackets and got the center section tacked.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/bumper4.jpg

Gettin the corner pieces welded on.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/bumper6.jpg

Almost there

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/bumper5.jpg

Got the last pieces on and griding down some welds

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/bumper7.jpg

pulled the bumper and got started burning on the pieces.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/bumper9.jpg

zj95maxx
03-15-2009, 07:50 PM
sweeet, more pics!

blackzj52
03-19-2009, 04:35 PM
what max said. from what i could see it looked pretty good


also, how do you like that rear explorer bar in the back?
whenever i go with an 8.8 i might try that idea out

jborushko
03-19-2009, 05:25 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/102_1158.jpg



ha ha ha that awesome how you re-used the stock arm rest

oh and i dig the hole shift area

Derek33
03-20-2009, 01:10 AM
The explorer bar is great. Provides a very stable without limiting too much flex. I may make disconnects for the rear, even though i hear people say its bad to have no rear bar offroad.

Bumper should be finished tomorrow. Ill take the time to use an actual camera for the finished pics.

Jeeperoni91
03-20-2009, 03:54 PM
even though i hear people say its bad to have no rear bar offroad.


i dont have a rear bar on or off road...and its fine

Derek33
03-20-2009, 11:15 PM
Only pic I took today.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/bumper10.jpg

zj95maxx
03-20-2009, 11:18 PM
do i spy a skull?

blackzj52
04-02-2009, 06:11 PM
The explorer bar is great. Provides a very stable without limiting too much flex. I may make disconnects for the rear, even though i hear people say its bad to have no rear bar offroad.
good stuff.
you said you used 250 end links, but what bracket did you use or weld on to the stock sway bar mounting location?

also, where did you get that cb antenna? iv been looking for one about that height
any links?

Derek33
04-02-2009, 06:18 PM
do i spy a skull?

yes you do. Its black right now but i might get some body match touch up paint and paint it.


good stuff.
you said you used 250 end links, but what bracket did you use or weld on to the stock sway bar mounting location?

also, where did you get that cb antenna? iv been looking for one about that height
any links?

The bracket was home made out of some 1/4 inch steel. The antenna is from Radio Shack.

blackzj52
04-06-2009, 02:21 AM
alright thanks man

Derek33
04-13-2009, 04:01 PM
Did a little more work to the bumper.

Added a little to the bottom corners, and painted it with a textured paint to match the fenders.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/bumper13.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/bumper14.jpg

zj95maxx
04-13-2009, 04:12 PM
Looks great man!:D

Brad S
04-16-2009, 11:37 AM
sweet!

Goosed76
04-16-2009, 01:01 PM
Build me one!!

Gb02WJ
04-19-2009, 07:20 PM
Just read the thread, Looks great man.:smt028

Any Updates?

Derek33
04-19-2009, 10:32 PM
None as of yet since the bumper. I'll get some more time when I'm home from school. Next in line is either a rear bumper or some leafs for the rear.

Derek

95gczj
04-23-2009, 12:59 PM
where did u get the crawler ready decal at

also nice rig

Goosed76
04-23-2009, 05:14 PM
where did u get the crawler ready decal at


http://www.crawlerready.com/

95gczj
04-24-2009, 02:33 PM
cool thanks

Jeeperoni91
04-25-2009, 01:08 AM
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19430


???

Derek33
04-25-2009, 01:41 AM
I just came across the old parts taken out of my axles when I put the 4.56's in. They were in a box under a bunch of shit. Just forgot about them while I've been at school.

Jeeperoni91
04-25-2009, 01:43 AM
Oh I forgot you put the 456 in my bad

Derek33
06-19-2009, 03:41 PM
Got most of the flares on. Just gotta wait till my buddy is around to use his welder for the rear flares.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC01494.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC01495.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC01497.jpg

canadian_driver
06-19-2009, 03:45 PM
iceland offroad flairs?

Derek33
06-19-2009, 03:47 PM
yessir

canadian_driver
06-19-2009, 03:51 PM
nice

ZJones
06-19-2009, 04:23 PM
That looks really good. I'm still debating if I want those or not. Once you install them there's no going back right?

Derek33
06-19-2009, 04:50 PM
Unless you dont mind some holes in your body.

I must say, installing them is a PITA. you have to hold them where you think you'd like them, and mark where the bolts would enter the body.

Unfortunately, the bolts are about 2.5" long so lining the fender up to the body is difficult since you cant get the flare flush to the body.

Luckily, if it requires 2 or 3 holes to get it right, you cant see them under the fender after they are installed.

Derek33
06-27-2009, 06:53 PM
Couple of pics from today.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC01533.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC01563.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC01536.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/DSC01535.jpg

Disclaimer: Part of the trail is a powerline trail, but the town OK'd off road vehicles while the sun is up.

faststang1
06-27-2009, 08:26 PM
the flares look good..I want some for My ZJ!!

dp96zj
06-27-2009, 08:55 PM
sweet little powerline trail there, I wish we had stuff like that around here!

How are your a/t's in mud? I'm sure the lower gears help ya, but I hate my bfg a/t's when it comes to the sticky stuff.

Jeeperoni91
06-27-2009, 11:16 PM
looks like you had fun man, good to see

Derek33
06-28-2009, 12:50 AM
The AT's held their own. They're no MT but i had no problems with the mud I went through today.

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
06-28-2009, 01:04 AM
You've got the tats of a meathead, the jeep of a redneck, and the Timberlands of a thug. WhoTF are you??

Jeep is looking great! :D

Derek33
06-28-2009, 10:58 AM
Timbs? I'd never touch 'em. Im a chippewa guy.

And thanks. I'm satisfied with the way its starting to come together.

heepzj
08-01-2009, 02:20 AM
Doesn't that novak shift linkage fit between the stock bezel? Or do you have to cut the consol?

Derek33
08-01-2009, 10:12 AM
You can get it to fit if you take the time to bend the metal shift rod. I didnt.

CTeunuch
03-29-2010, 06:40 PM
anything new?

Derek33
06-14-2010, 06:41 PM
I never get time to wrench while I'm at school. The only work I did was rotate my tires and that was being done on a busy street with the factory bottle jack. Not doing that again.

I stopped by my parents house for the weekend to get some work done. Typical maintenance shit, nothing fun. Balanced my tires, driveway alignment, touch up paint etc etc.

I did decide to lower it down to 3.5" of lift. 3.5" of lift and 35's has been alright so far. Claytons arms contact the pinch seam on the body but a few whacks of a BFG took care of that. I need to gather some hockey pucks for bump stops. I don't plan on running much up travel since I'd prefer clearance over upward flex.

Any extra money I get these days, if any at all, goes into shooting. If I start tossing more money into the jeep I'd like to tackle the rear suspension. Hopefully get rid of the short arms. I'd also like to paint it and finish my half doors project.

Anyway, here it is at 3.5" of lift and 35's
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/DMN0166/jeep3.jpg

CTeunuch
06-14-2010, 06:48 PM
good to see you still have it, are you planning on wheeling this summer?

Derek33
06-14-2010, 07:24 PM
Planning? no. Trying to? Yes.

Its tough tryin to find time when I'm still going to school full time in the summer and working full time.

Just keep me updated when you make a some trips and I'll try to see if my schedule fits.