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ptownTSI
10-27-2005, 03:51 PM
for the front. its an 88 F350 D60 w/ 3.54's (forgot to ask if its DRW, will check later), will need 5.38's (i think) for 38-40" tires. now i need to find one for the rear. Found one out of a 1996 van but its missing a drum and the dude wants an arm and leg for it ($250), what is the best/cheapest year i should look for. He did mention that is has the large end on it so you can run 35 spline shafts without machining the housing. Ultimately i'd like to do the popular chevy disc/el dorado caliper conversion that i've seen on a few sights.

thoughts?

OverkillZJ
10-27-2005, 04:16 PM
Look for 78-79 from an F350 or from a 250 special edition. They have discs, 35 spline inners, and DISC BRAKES. HP too.

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
10-27-2005, 04:59 PM
so you're going from a lowered 5.9 jeep detailed in every crack to a fully built ZJ with D60's? has it ever even been in 4WD?

Cue-Ball
10-27-2005, 05:21 PM
Have you considered a 14b for the rear, they are pretty cheap to get and to build from what I hear.

One of my friends in San Ramon has one under his YJ and loves it.

Jcbzj
10-27-2005, 06:11 PM
I would get a 14b and run 40's for clearance. If I wasnt upside down (financially) in this d60 I would have a 14b too

Cue-Ball
10-27-2005, 06:12 PM
I think we are ALL upside down on our projects, just don't let my wife find out.

OverkillZJ
10-27-2005, 06:15 PM
14 bolt is much cheaper to build than a rear 60. The 30 spline rear 60's are really no better than a 44. Therefore you should buy my rear 44 and get more upside down financially :finga:

MaineZJ
10-27-2005, 07:13 PM
14FF are cheap, strong and can be shaved pretty good.

ATL ZJ
10-27-2005, 09:54 PM
The 30 spline rear 60's are really no better than a 44. :finga:
Haha... Since 44 rears are full float and have 9.750" ring gears right? I swear if someone didn't know any better, you'd make a d30 sound better than a 30spline 60. Not to start the pissing match again or anything. ;-)

But the 14b actually is growing on me (since it does have a 10.5" ring gear)...

Kraqa
10-27-2005, 10:02 PM
If you want cheep and 35 spline. get a dana 70. there the same pumkin as a dana 60, super cheep. and are extremly common to be found with 35 splin. They cam stock with up to 6.17 gears. i found one for free fom a 93 dodge d600 with 4.56 gears.

check out my wrtie-up in the "Write-up" section

ptownTSI
10-28-2005, 12:09 AM
kraqa, yeah i have nothin against goin with the 70, whatever comes first. I did find a 14 bolt for 75 bucks but you cant run anything higher than 5.13's in them and i want more multiplication in the axles. I dont think i'm going to get into twin stick cases or multipliers (at least not in this first stage, but i'll probably eat my words later).

5.9 has lots of power 1st gear and a 231HD in lo. although i saw a bitchin setup on pirate where someone took an old wrangler case and put a doubler in it. so you could have 1:1, 5:1 and 10:1 or something around that area.

t-case, doubler high 1:1, t-case low, doubler high, 5:1, both t-case and doubler low, 10:1. the question is will that hold up to a 5.9 and stupid pedal.

yes puma i'm going from a 5.9 with painted fender well's, a clean under carriage, and a detailed engine bay to a fugly but capable rock crawler. If i cant get my welding skills decent enough and checked/approved by a master welder that is local then I wont do any welding on it. I already have access to benders and oxy/acet torches.

:D :D its actually gonna happen

oh and i'd go with a 78-79 D60 but they are about as rare as hens teeth and places want 1200-1800 for them.

ptownTSI
10-28-2005, 12:10 AM
I would get a 14b and run 40's for clearance. If I wasnt upside down (financially) in this d60 I would have a 14b too

i dont see whats so special about the 14b that you cant make your d60 do for the same money.

TrojanMan
10-28-2005, 12:14 AM
so you're going from a lowered 5.9 jeep detailed in every crack to a fully built ZJ with D60's? has it ever even been in 4WD?

5.9 is always in 4wd. do you mean 4-lo perhaps?

ptownTSI
10-28-2005, 12:31 AM
kraqa if the d70 that you have is strong enough for a 3ton dont you think its way better than the 9" or the 14b even if the 9 is built with 35 spline axles? Can the pinion bearing support be that much of a difference. If the 70's came with up to 7.17's in commercial apps thats ALOT of power running through that diff in a 3 ton truck.

ptownTSI
10-28-2005, 12:45 AM
so you're going from a lowered 5.9 jeep detailed in every crack to a fully built ZJ with D60's? has it ever even been in 4WD?

i put it in 4lo a few times. to creep up some ramps after i put the converter in, and also to park on someones lawn once so the converter didnt ramp up and dig holes in it and fling grass all over them.

i also put in in 4lo and did donuts in a pasture, that was fun.

Kraqa
10-28-2005, 12:49 AM
the 14 bolt is a very strong axle. and alot of thought went into designing it. It is super easy to set up gears, and the center section is extremyl strong.

The 14 bolt has 1.5" shaft, btu there 30 sspline

thr d70 has 1.5" shaft and 80% of the time there 35 spline.

The dana 70 has a 10.5" ring gear. ITS HUGE!!.
The d70 came with up to 6.17 gears stock.

I wouldnt' even compare a 35 spline ford 9" to a d70. sure the pinion is stronger. but the housing and ring gear become the week link. and for the price yoru going to pay for that custom 9" its nto worth it.

stick to the 14blt or 70. the main advantage ofver the 14 bolt (other then the 35 spline) is the pumkin is the same size as the dana 60. The 14 bolt is freekin HUGE.

ptownTSI
10-28-2005, 01:06 AM
randy's lists 5.38's for an 11.5" GM

YG GM11.5-538 11.5" GM 5.38 R&P General Motors 11.5 5.38

this is aka the 14 bolt correct?

maybe i could do a 14b if the price was right (75 bucks and local, if the dude hasnt sold it yet)

LouisianaZJ
10-28-2005, 04:07 AM
a zj is a poor choice for 40's and 60's or 14 bolts

get a salavage title wrangler or some crap like that and tow it

MaineZJ
10-28-2005, 08:46 AM
isn't the "new" 14FF a 11.5"
and the "old" 14FF is a 10.5"

BMRisko
10-28-2005, 10:23 AM
a zj is a poor choice for 40's and 60's or 14 bolts

get a salavage title wrangler or some crap like that and tow it

Yea, or get an old yota beater. :smt025

OverkillZJ
10-28-2005, 10:25 AM
a zj is a poor choice for 40's and 60's or 14 bolts

get a salavage title wrangler or some crap like that and tow it

You have an XJ, WTF do you know :finga:


a unibody vehicle is a poor choice for ANYTHING. Yet we do it anyway.

ptownTSI
10-28-2005, 01:32 PM
a zj is a poor choice for 40's and 60's or 14 bolts

get a salavage title wrangler or some crap like that and tow it

you didnt see the pictures of my old 5.9 did you?

RollinBallsDeep
11-17-2005, 04:19 PM
Well dude we got our selfs a d60 now!!

BMRisko
11-17-2005, 04:31 PM
Well dude we got our selfs a d60 now!!

Who is we?

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
11-17-2005, 05:45 PM
Who is we?

more importantly, WTF is "rollin balls deep" mean??

RollinBallsDeep
11-17-2005, 10:35 PM
Balls Deep is a company that sponsored our sprint car. So Rollinballsdeep is for our sponsors company. And "We got our selfs a dana 60" is ptownTSI and I.

BMRisko
11-18-2005, 09:56 AM
Balls Deep is a company that sponsored our sprint car. So Rollinballsdeep is for our sponsors company. And "We got our selfs a dana 60" is ptownTSI and I.

What does "balls deep" mean?

wonder371
11-18-2005, 02:07 PM
its a company that puts out videos for motocross and such. http://www.ballsdeepboxers.com/

chadjans
11-18-2005, 10:58 PM
Who fricken cares what gears you run. What they good for? The street? 5.13's is fine. 14b with 2nd pinion support is all the rage. Spend money on tcase gearing. AKA 4.1.

Chad

ptownTSI
11-20-2005, 06:01 AM
i reallllly want to find a 241J... but thats just me.

chadjans
11-20-2005, 11:04 PM
Forged aluminum tcases suck. They like to blow apart, leak and do not handle the horsepower well.

Chad

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
11-21-2005, 01:00 AM
i reallllly want to find a 241J... but thats just me.

no you don't. Find a gear-driven tcase and mate it up to your tranny. Or fork out the dough for an atlas or stak. Isn't this supposed to be the "ultimate" ZJ rockcrawler? :mrgreen:

AprilzWarrior
11-23-2005, 03:25 PM
What does "balls deep" mean?


LOL:smt101

Ever gotten Laid ? Well when your balls deep in your girl, there ya go.

:smt006

OverkillZJ
11-23-2005, 03:53 PM
ahhhhahaha

Cue-Ball
11-23-2005, 03:54 PM
LOL:smt101

Ever gotten Laid ? Well when your balls deep in your girl, there ya go.

:smt006

NICE :eek: