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Grandsrus
05-26-2005, 10:18 AM
Ok this may be a newb question but I have done serious research on the 8.8 swap. Help me out with this question...

On an 8.8, since the left hand tube is longer than the right hand tube and the pumkin is offset, why couldn't you just buy 2 8.8's heat up the center section close to the right hand side, take out the tube and press in a left hand side from another 8.8?

You pumkin would be centered, you would have the width needed for the ZJ and the axle shafts should work too...right?

I know this seems like a lot of work but wouldn't this work out?



Also, if doing this swap can you reuse the 8.8's t-bar mount to work with the ZJ's t-bar?

Trancezj
05-26-2005, 10:32 AM
go ahead and git-r done and let us know how that works out for you.

phillyzj
05-26-2005, 10:40 AM
seems like a pretty good idea to me. if ya got the means to do it, go do it.

aren't their two plug welds in there as well? drill em out maybe?

BMRisko
05-26-2005, 10:42 AM
Why waste the time?

Moving this to the n00b forum...

phillyzj
05-26-2005, 10:43 AM
Why waste the time?

Moving this to the n00b forum...

true, it is still an 8.8 but you could just carry one spare, and if it were easy enough to do, you'd have a nice, wider axle, that's still 5 on 4.5.

JohnBoulderCO
05-26-2005, 11:24 AM
You have just doubled the cost of the axle swap.
You bought two to make one. Spacers are cheap.

Also, new axles (spares) are usually sold in pairs.

Grandsrus
05-26-2005, 11:41 AM
I really didn't think this was newb, but oh well.

No you would not double the cost... 8.8's go for $100-200 which is cheap, plus you could sell the other shorter axle to a ranger or whatever..
If the tubes twist then it could not be that hard.

Waste time? we "waste" a lot of time on our ZJ's.

Didn't think this had been discussed before.

Trancezj
05-26-2005, 11:57 AM
I really didn't think this was newb, but oh well.

No you would not double the cost... 8.8's go for $100-200 which is cheap, plus you could sell the other shorter axle to a ranger or whatever..
If the tubes twist then it could not be that hard.

Waste time? we "waste" a lot of time on our ZJ's.

Didn't think this had been discussed before.
well the point would really be that if you time / means to do all that, you'd prolly go with a bigger axle to begin with. It's just a lot of time to spend on something that wouldn't make that big of a difference.

LouisianaZJ
05-26-2005, 11:58 AM
why bother

it would be better to narrow something kool like a 14b or a 60

ATL ZJ
05-26-2005, 12:06 PM
Never thought of doing that...

If you want to try it and don't mind the work and money involved, go for it... I've done a lot of stuff to my Jeep that wasn't exactly the easiest or cheapest way, but I am pleased with the result (i.e. converting to 4wd).. If it were me, I'd just go with a 9" for that much trouble. Drop out 3rd members are the shiz.

BigDaveZJ
05-26-2005, 12:22 PM
The diff being offset really has no effect on anything, and if you're destroying 8.8 shafts you should be well over 35's and by then just get a 60 anyways.

Nordic1
05-26-2005, 01:27 PM
Swapping the tubes out is a cool idea but it is ALOT of work. Plus if you don't have the propper jig/tools to set it up right, you can end up screwing up all of your axle's internals.

Kraqa
05-26-2005, 02:59 PM
seems like a wast of time

Grandsrus
05-26-2005, 03:50 PM
Cool, thanks guys...

MaineZJ
05-26-2005, 06:50 PM
why do so many people think an offset pinion is such a big deal? Ujoints have no idea what angles they are running at as long as the total angle isn't more than they are rated for.

How this for ya :finga:
http://www.fototime.com/%7B93AD7DF1-5B54-4888-8B65-13F0ECC9E822%7D/picture.JPG

LouisianaZJ
05-26-2005, 07:02 PM
yeah, if your running the stock slip yoke still, the pinion can be offset alot w/o problems

if your running a SYE, you cant offset it as much, but i dont see the 8.8 being THAT much of a problem

MaineZJ
05-26-2005, 07:48 PM
SYE can probably offset it more cause the shaft will probably be longer - ie less angle

OverkillZJ
05-26-2005, 08:54 PM
why do so many people think an offset pinion is such a big deal? Ujoints have no idea what angles they are running at as long as the total angle isn't more than they are rated for.

How this for ya :finga:
http://www.fototime.com/%7B93AD7DF1-5B54-4888-8B65-13F0ECC9E822%7D/picture.JPG

The greater the angle, the less stress they can withstand :butthead:

But for all intensive purposes as far as the angles of an 8.8's offset pinion, you're right, doesn't matter worth a damn

Kraqa
05-26-2005, 08:58 PM
i think hes more worried about the shafts being difrent lengths.

Jim311
05-26-2005, 10:21 PM
why do so many people think an offset pinion is such a big deal? Ujoints have no idea what angles they are running at as long as the total angle isn't more than they are rated for.

How this for ya :finga:
http://www.fototime.com/%7B93AD7DF1-5B54-4888-8B65-13F0ECC9E822%7D/picture.JPG

The greater the angle, the less stress they can withstand :butthead:

But for all intensive purposes as far as the angles of an 8.8's offset pinion, you're right, doesn't matter worth a damn


You mean all intents and purposes :flipoff2:

OverkillZJ
05-26-2005, 10:32 PM
why do so many people think an offset pinion is such a big deal? Ujoints have no idea what angles they are running at as long as the total angle isn't more than they are rated for.

How this for ya :finga:
http://www.fototime.com/%7B93AD7DF1-5B54-4888-8B65-13F0ECC9E822%7D/picture.JPG

The greater the angle, the less stress they can withstand :butthead:

But for all intensive purposes as far as the angles of an 8.8's offset pinion, you're right, doesn't matter worth a damn


You mean all intents and purposes :flipoff2:
Negative, I know exactly what I said. Although the original English phrase is correctly "For all intents and purposes" - it's commonly used as "intensive purpose" when the intent (excuse the pun) is to emphasize a particular aspect (intense, focused) - which in this case is that ujoints will be fine and dandy running a lil' off center.

It's pretty much accepted at this point:



http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/32/intensive-purposes/

Grandsrus
05-27-2005, 10:37 AM
Not worried about the offset, shaft lengths or intent/intensive purposes.
Just thinking about something different, but I guess it would be a waste of time and too much work that should be directed elsewhere.

:rolleyes:

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
05-29-2005, 12:49 PM
Also, if doing this swap can you reuse the 8.8's t-bar mount to work with the ZJ's t-bar?

what t-bar?

Kraqa
05-29-2005, 09:39 PM
track bar get your mind out of the gutter.