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Cue-Ball
12-20-2004, 01:16 PM
Okay guys, most of you know what my plans are and some of you don't.

So I thought it was time to just layout all my cards and start one of these build up threads. I must warn you in advance that this is going to be a VERY slow thread until I get all the parts and pieces ordered and they arrive, after that it will move really fast.

So the plans:

42/46RE Hybrid transmission
4.6L stroker engine
Clayton Long Arms (triangulated 4 link)
Coil-Overs front/rear
HP60 (full width)
Full Detroit
5.38 gears
over axle track bar bracket
1 ton steering with 1-1/2"x1/4" wall DOM tubing
14bolt (full width)
Full Spool
5.38 gears
XJ Armour's rocker protection

Extended steel braided brake lines (all 5)

Replace 249 transfer case w/ D300 w/ 4.1

Limiting straps to protect shocks

RE HD Track bar and bracket (already installed)

40" GoodYear MT/R's

Beadlocks (unsure which ones)
Dual Optima Yellow Tops (already installed see pix below)

Turbo City air intake (already installed see pix below)
Well that about sums it up for the first go around. Once this is all installed the future plans will be (far in the future):

Full interior roll cage
Supercharger
PSC steering gear box
Mastercraft suspension seats (front and rear)
4 point seat belts
Kevin's roof rack
PIAA 520's in front Trail Ready bumperI am sure I am forgetting some stuff and I am sure I will change my mind and add stuff to the list, but this is a good start.

So here is the dual batt and Turbo City pix:

From this:
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To this:
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http://www.fototime.com/{A28C9B3C-EFD2-4437-89B5-A1B09EB552CF}/picture.JPG
http://www.fototime.com/{01C8CC75-8ACA-4932-8D99-EFDF0F18EC47}/picture.JPG

Some of the welding
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Stay tuned for more.

nate
12-20-2004, 02:18 PM
That's more or less what I'm doing to mine.

7" RK springs and ACOS will be TALL! You'll be able to run 35s with just the 7" from what I have seen on here. Trim a little hear and there if need be, but keeping it low is a good thing. Alot of guys are running less too, just depends on how crazy you go with the sawzall.

Nice battery install. What kind of cables are you running? I need to find someone with a lug crimper so I can run the military blocks like you have.

Cue-Ball
12-20-2004, 03:03 PM
Yea that is why I am not sure about the ACOS yet.

I got my cables from James at jeepersandcreepers.com they are pretty sweet. Once I figure out my dual battery isolator I will order some more cables from him for the 2nd battery.

I am really stoked about how the batts came out, could not have been happier with the way they are.

Nordic1
12-20-2004, 03:19 PM
With the RKs, you'll have to get creative with rear bump-stops or rear spring upper retainers because RKs springs unseat really easy

Cue-Ball
12-20-2004, 04:10 PM
True, Ty up at Rock Control has some spring retainers I am probably going to use.

Hey Chase, you going to keep your RK springs or sell them?

Nordic1
12-20-2004, 05:33 PM
keep them... one of these weekends I'm going to throw my accos in and then install the RKs

Cue-Ball
12-20-2004, 06:11 PM
Cool.

Did you ever find out about that front axle you were looking to get?

Nordic1
12-21-2004, 12:48 AM
HP 30 for me... I just got a hold of alloy inners, 760 spicer and stock outer axleshafts used from JU

I might have a deal on an ARB used for pretty cheap... outside of that I'm def going over the axle trackbar that I might build with some 1.5" dom (like my steering) and then do the tera 30 knuckle or something.

nate
12-21-2004, 03:57 AM
Why is the RK spring any different than an RE spring? I'm not sure what you mean with unseating, like if you flex and the spring falls out, or they don't fit in the spring cups right?

What I was looking at is ACOS with my 4.5" RE springs. Not sure yet.

Nordic1
12-21-2004, 05:16 AM
I'll take pics when I swap my RE's out for RKs but with no weight on the spring, RK's are about 1" shorter than RE's. Here's a pic of what I mean by unseated:
http://www.fototime.com/%7B8C6F84D4-0FEB-4380-8136-0AED1E8D77D8%7D/picture.JPG
That's the best pic I have on hand.... nothing will ruin your day like unseating a spring like this... Instead of creating something gheto-fab with exaust tubing for an extended bumpstop, I'm going to simply add accos.

nate
12-21-2004, 04:16 PM
Ok. Well that's not a problem with RK springs; you make it sound like it is. That's just long arms for you. Make a retainer, limiting straps, etc.

$200 ACOS or $2 of pipe... Hmm. ACOS are cool since they are adjustable, but it will bump you to ~8.25" of lift... Isn't that a bit tall?

nate
12-21-2004, 04:19 PM
Ok. Well that's not a problem with RK springs; you make it sound like it is. That's just long arms for you. Make a retainer, limiting straps, etc.

$200 ACOS or $2 of pipe... Hmm. ACOS are cool since they are adjustable, but it will bump you to ~8.25" of lift... Isn't that a bit tall?

LouisianaZJ
12-21-2004, 06:27 PM
Okay guys, most of you know what my plans are and
So the plans:
Rock Control Long Arms (double triangulated 4 link)
Rock Krawler 7" springs front/rear
HP30
[list:f05a600bac] open diff
4.56 gears
over axle track bar bracket
1 ton steering with 1.5"x5/16" wall DOM tubing
All new MOOG ball joints
Crane cover[/list:u:f05a600bac]
[list] 8.8
[list] PowerTrax no slip locker
4.56 gears
Spidertrax 1.25" wheel spacers
Raised shock mounts
Crane cover
.

if you ditch the rear crane cover and the powertrax no slip, you would probably be close to the price of a full detroit rear


might want to checkout the tru trac or a noslip for the front, about $300

Cue-Ball
12-21-2004, 06:35 PM
True, but the PowerTrax is already installed in the 8.8 so I don't really want to mess with it right now.

I have thought about some kind of locker in the front but I don't want to break stuff all the time and I want to be able to drive on the street. Right now I have the 249 TC so I am not sure how well a front locker will like that.

nate
12-21-2004, 07:26 PM
I don't know if your looking for ideas on diff skids, but I suggest the Warn ones. They are around $65 a piece. Have saved me a time or two.

Cue-Ball
12-21-2004, 08:30 PM
Thanks Nate. I already have the Crane diff cover for the front and will be ordering one for the 8.8 pretty soon.

BlackDiamondBound
12-23-2004, 01:32 PM
XJ Armour's rocker protection

is that the same that jerod has? do its realy for a xj?

Cue-Ball
12-23-2004, 01:39 PM
Yes it is the same ones that Jerod is running. I am not sure that they are for the XJ but they are called XJ Armour, so I am not sure, but I think they look GREAT, and I got a sweet deal on them, I just need to pick them up in LA, and since we are going to Disney Land in Feb. I will just pick them up while I am down that way.

Works out great.

BlackDiamondBound
12-23-2004, 02:03 PM
i searched and could not find them anywhere, do they still make them?

MaineZJ
12-23-2004, 04:24 PM
1 minute with google:

http://www.xj-armor.com/rockrails.htm

Cue-Ball
12-23-2004, 06:14 PM
Nope those are not them, and no I don't believe they make them any longer.

Here are a few pix of the ones I get to go pick up.

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Cue-Ball
12-27-2004, 02:00 PM
Just added a synthetic winch rope this weekend.

I also had the aluminum hawse fairlead hard anodized black, turned out sweet.
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http://www.fototime.com/{F208C071-B4AD-494A-BF59-A52279493187}/picture.JPG

Now I need to break down and take the bumper off, strip it down, and repaint it. I might get some POR-15 and spray it with that. Not gonna mess with that for a while though as it is a pain to take it all apart.

Cue-Ball
01-04-2005, 04:35 PM
Okay the dual battery set up is almost complete. I got the kit from Wrangler NW and I have to say that Steve was great to work with.

Here is how the kit came

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It is a very complete kit.

Here is the massive 200 amp continuos duty relay
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I opted to go with military battery clamps as I had done when I upgraded the stock battery cables a year ago with jeepersandcreepers.com
http://www.fototime.com/{2FF32D5C-8FC9-4294-AB81-D23BAE692F46}/picture.JPG
I like how Steve uses red and black screws (I know it is the little things that excite me)

Here is the battery manager switch that controls the relay
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Here is the wiring harness for the battery manager switch
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You can tell that WranglerNW pays close attention to detail in the way they construct the harness, they even include the terminal covers, very clean
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So now to the install, I mounted the relay to the custom battery box I have installed, I had to gring the mounting edge of the relay a little bit to get it to fit.
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The location of the switch is basically where ever you can find a place that you like. The wiring harness is avaliable in different lengths and is easily cut shorter if needed (I had to cut 3-4 feet off mine). I picked the spot just below my lighter plug (that is since been replaced with the plug for my winch). The problem with this location is that the switch is rather long and there was some metal behind that I had to drill out to get the switch to fit. It is also a PITA to get that front part of the dash off, I could only get it part way off so it was even more of a pain.
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http://www.fototime.com/{C28D8B44-B94B-4EC9-A838-D908A8F780AF}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{6611A44F-2D03-4180-8DDA-74DC81ACF19F}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{E209FE41-AD47-4CDD-8928-00F5E245186C}/picture.JPG
I know the switch is a little crooked I will fix that when I finish up the cabling.

Here is a picture of the partially wired relay
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Okay why is it only partially wired, and why is it almost complete you ask?

Well the The cables I had Steve make up for me have a different end than the cables I have had James at jeepersandcreepers.com make up for me when I upgraded the battery cables previously. I am sure that the ends that Steve used are just as good as the ones James uses, but for me it comes down to the way they look.

So I have sent the cables that came with the kit to James to have him install new ends on them that will match the cables I already have installed. I should have the cables back hopefully by this weekend so I can get them installed and call this project DONE. I was able to temporarily hook up the cables to make sure everything worked and it seem to be just fine.

Cue-Ball
01-16-2005, 08:11 PM
Okay got the cables back from James and installed the cables this weekend and straightened out the switch under the dash. The only thing that I have to do now is replace the military battery clamps I originally got from jeepersandcreepers last year as it has started to rip on the positive clamp. (I tell you it is ALWAYS something).

I will have some pix in a few days my wife is out of town this weekend with the camera.

Now I can focus all my extra cash on getting my long arm and axle swap stuff figured out.

Cue-Ball
01-24-2005, 07:21 PM
Okay all,

I FINALLY finished the dual battery set up.

Here are a few pix of the finished product.

Second battery
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Relay
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Main battery
http://www.fototime.com/{D2294A0A-18E3-409D-8754-A3383B6FE945}/picture.JPG

And yes I even sraightened out the switch
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While I was at it I installed a CB, I still need to test and tune it with a buddy here locally sometime this week but at least it is in.
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http://www.fototime.com/{5E70CAB5-785B-4FA6-9F14-44D74F65CA37}/picture.JPG

The CB is the LAST item I am spending ANY money on that is not related to my long arms and axle swap, except for maintinance items like the motor mounts I have to replace. I have to get really focused on that now and put every penny I can into it. I do have my guage pod to install but I already have everything I need for that, am going to try and install that this coming weekend.

Cue-Ball
02-01-2005, 04:30 PM
Just a quick update to say I just ordered my 7" RK srings this morning.

DND
02-01-2005, 08:20 PM
You too Dirk? I just got off the phone with Adam at Clayton's. I ordered a 4-link kit, 8.8 high clearance mounts, and RK 7" springs. As much as I like the new Rock Crawler kit, I had a 25% off coupon for Clayton's. :D

How's your timeline progressing?

Dave

Cue-Ball
02-01-2005, 08:29 PM
Oh that's too funny :lol:

I am moving ahead slowly but surely. In all reality I just hope I can finish by Christmas. With a wife and 2 kids Jeep money is sometimes tough to get.

I am going to stick with the Rock Control kit, he is local so I will save on shipping from Clayton and Ty is going to help Jerod with the install incase anything goes strange, so I really can't beat the deal.

I think I am going to have him build it with a 3-link up front, I like to be different than the rest of the crowd.

OverkillZJ
02-02-2005, 12:30 AM
Lookin' good!

Nice clean install, and I DEFINATELY like tha tmore than the painless kit... That's pretty much the same exact thing the diagram I never finished would've done, but much cleaner with the pre made plugs to the switch and all. I think it was worth the money.

Cue-Ball
02-02-2005, 01:53 AM
Thanks, I m VERY pleased with the way it turned out. Truth is I could not be happier with it.

JeepinHank
02-02-2005, 10:59 AM
Lookin Good!

I like the dual battery setup. Should be more than enough to feed the winch.

Cue-Ball
02-17-2005, 07:12 PM
Well I got my gauge pod installed a few weekends ago. Here are a couple of quick pix.

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http://www.fototime.com/{48EFC09D-D5EB-4841-8F5E-8EA45E2ACCF7}/picture.JPG

I also just scored a KILLER SWEET deal on a Tera knuckle brand new!!!!!!!!!

Found it on ebay should have it next week. Means I will have to get a different TRE and not use the one with the drag link hole in it but I am sure one of you guys could use it as a spare.

Even before I saw the knuckle on ebay I had a good deal worked out with James over at jeepersandcreepers.com for just $240 shipped so if anyone is looking check James out.

SO what do I have left to get for my Heep? The long arms themselves, upper/lower ball joints, get gears installed in HP30, pick up DOM for steering, and of course the tires. I will also need to have some driveline work done but I will wait until everything is in so i can get some good measurements, I will also wait to get limit straps until then also to allow me to dial in the best length.

So stay tuned but don't hold your breath for a completion any time real soon.

Nordic1
02-17-2005, 08:31 PM
Dirk... Talk to Jerod about maybe making your own LA. It's hellof time consuming but if you have the materials and a design, it'll save you a huge chunk of change. Guess what I am doing when I get home from GSSW :twisted:

OverkillZJ
02-17-2005, 08:33 PM
Lookin' good Dirk!

Now, don't do what I did (installed the gauges over 2.5 years ago and still haven't hooked them up :roll:

Cue-Ball
02-17-2005, 08:47 PM
Well the oil temp gauge is hooked up and working, the tranny gauge will get hooked up in a couple of weeks when I get home from vacation.

Already talked with Jerod he is not going to be making arms just installing.

norcaljr
02-18-2005, 01:31 AM
Dirk,

where did you put your tranny temp sensor ?

OverkillZJ
02-18-2005, 01:35 AM
Dirk,

where did you put your tranny temp sensor ?

And where'd you put your oil temp sensor? I've got my Tranny and Coolant temp sensors installed, still lacking my oil sensor.



I have a tranny bypass filter, that has a port for a temp sensor, that's where I put mine...

Cue-Ball
02-18-2005, 03:11 AM
Okay for the oil temp sender:

I picked up a "T" connector (1/4") and then 3 1/4"-1/8" adaptars (they did not have any 1/8" "T's", I took the pressure sender out, and put the new "T" assembly in using an 1/8" close nipple. I put the pressure sender on the top of the "T" and the temp sender on the opposite side of the "T" from where the "T" connected to the block.

As for the tranny temp, (I know I will hear some crap about this one but here goes) I picked up a Mopar deep tranny pan, I think it holds about 2 qts. more than stock and it pretty beefy and is finned on the bottom to help with cooling (it is only maybe an inch or so deeper) so it does not hang down to low. I mean it won't once I get it on after my trip next week. The cool thing is not only does it have a drain plug but it also has a threaded hole for a temp sender.

I will try to get a couple of pix of both the oil temp "T" and the tranny pan tomorrow and get them posted before I leave on Sat.

I will be taking my laptop with me on vacation so I will be around the board but mostly just in the evening as I will be doing "family" things during the day. We are going down to DisneyLand, the best part is I get to pick up my rock rails while I am down there!!!!

Oh yea I think the whole "T" assembly cost me under $5 if you are able to find an 1/8" "T" it would but under $2-3. And YES those are both AutoMeter gauges, both are 100-250*, and I put the green light cover on so they match the stock gauges perfectly.

OverkillZJ
02-18-2005, 03:05 PM
Do have the I6 or the V8? I have the V8, and all I remember about that oil pressure sending unit area is that it's TIGHT! I never even thought about that though...

Cue-Ball
02-18-2005, 03:20 PM
Sorry Matt,

I have the I6 and there is TONS of room in the engine bay, I could fit a body in there if I had to.

The other option I considered was dropping the oil pan and welding in a bung (okay having someone weld in a bung for me). That way you are able to tell the temp of the oil in the pan. Not sure what is more critical though or if there is a benifit from the pan temp to the block temp. I figure for us normal guys it really does not matter at all.

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
02-18-2005, 06:29 PM
I could fit a body in there if I had to.


remind me not to mess with you.

BTW jeep is coming along nicely.

Cue-Ball
02-18-2005, 11:11 PM
Thanks Puma,

Yes it is coming along, just taking way to long but I am the only one to blame, I just like to do things right the first time so I over think most of the stuff and usually over pay, BUT I can honestly say I am very happy with the way EVERYTHING is turning out so in the end I am really pleased and after all that is what counts. :D

bobgoblin
02-19-2005, 01:27 PM
sorry if i missed it somewhere in the thread, but did you make those battery hold downs? or where are they from?

looking great, man

jason

Cue-Ball
02-19-2005, 01:52 PM
Thanks Jason,

I actually got the battery trays off ebay. There is a guy in So. Cal that makes them up.

They were $37.50 each + shipping. If you search for "optima battery" you should be able to find them. I will look through my past emails and post up his address in the next day or two.

I got some pix of the oil temp sender and the new (well new to me) tranny pan.

I am at the house so I was not able to resize them that is why I am just posting the link, I will try to resize them and get them posted once I get to a hotel and fire up the laptop.

Here is the link
http://www.fototime.com/inv/93C80296ABF259F

bobgoblin
02-20-2005, 10:40 PM
he doesn't have any of those battery trays for sale on ebay at this time, but i did find his web address through a completed item search..

here is the address if anyone is interested
http://www.papajim.net/Battery%20Trays.htm

thanks, cue ball

jason

Cue-Ball
02-22-2005, 01:59 AM
Yup, that's the guy. He was GREAT to deal with.

Cue-Ball
02-28-2005, 02:33 PM
Okay here are some pix of the tranny pan

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DND
02-28-2005, 03:31 PM
Hey Dirk,

That's a nice looking pan. Does your friend have access to them for the 46RE in my junk? Might be a good idea to add a bit of fluid capacity.

Thx,
Dave

Cue-Ball
02-28-2005, 03:35 PM
Dave,

Let me check.

Cue-Ball
03-21-2005, 03:09 PM
Okay just a quick update for you all.

I finally got rid of the gay gold snowflake wheels and the street tires. I now have a set of 32x11.5x15 BFG all terrains (thanks BlackDiamondBound :supz: ) With the weather like it's been I have not been able to get any pictures to update my avatar and all that yet but hopefully this comming weekend. I know they are only AT's and not MT's but hey you have to admit they are better than street tires so give me a break.

So now onto when will this damn project be done? Who the hell knows but I am getting closer and closer. I just worked out a deal to pick up a used Clayton long arm kit here locally for a great deal. So that was really the last major thing I needed to purchase so once that is off the other Jeep and in my hands I can get that stuff down to AW and get the subframe welded in, and this project will really be off the ground and moving in the right direction.

I have deviated a little from the plan and picked up front and rear Addco sway bars, got a good deal on them so what the hell.

The HP30 is in Windsor getting acid stripped right now and should be ready in a few weeks. I have some POR-15 already at the house I am going to spray the axle with, and then it will be off to get the gears installed, then press in the new ball joints I have at the house and bolt on the Tera knuckle. Then the front axle will be complete (I am just going to reuse the axle shafts I have in my LP30, they are u-jointed ones, also going to reuse the drivers side knuckle and the Stillen brakes).

So it looks like the only stuff I will have left to purchase is:

Limit straps (once install is done)
DOM tubing for 1-ton steering
Rebuild kit for 242 Transfer case
Shifter bezel for 242 tcase
Some driveshaft work (once install is done)
Crane Diff cover for 8.8 (much easier to grind the cover and diff to fit with the axle out of the vehicle)

Looks like that is about it. When I write it out like this it still seems like alot to get but knowing I scored on the long arm kit makes me feel MUCH better. I am also thinking for the time being I will keep the 32's see how funny it looks and then decide on either 33's or 35's. With the 4.56 gears I really should go 33's but the fact that the 32's fit on my Jeep now with just a 2" lift really makes me think the 33's will be way small on it once I have the 7" springs in. May just have to wait and see on the tires for now.

Oh yea I did pick up the rock rails when I was in LA a few weeks ago, they look great, there is a few things that need to get welded I think, so those will be going down to AW for that and then off to get media blasted and re-powder coated.

So there you have it, Project MONEY PIT is still alive.

Don't forget you can help get this build complete by picking up some AMSOIL from me or a set of my Jeep service manuals on CD :smt041

Raacerx
03-21-2005, 11:21 PM
rock the 35s dude! Youve got the 4.0, your not going to be breaking a bunch of stuff if your easy on it! 33s look tiny at 7".

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
03-22-2005, 02:27 AM
rock the 35s dude! Youve got the 4.0, your not going to be breaking a bunch of stuff if your easy on it! 33s look tiny at 7".

I agree with that. even though your jeep is sessy dont be afraid of a little sawzall action. I'm gonna be running 35's at 5.5" on SA's so I think you'll be just fine.

Cue-Ball
03-22-2005, 11:13 AM
My concerns with 35's is:

1. My gears are only going to be 4.56's
2. Tire wear, this is my DD and I live on a windy mountain road

Raacerx
03-22-2005, 02:31 PM
My concerns with 35's is:

1. My gears are only going to be 4.56's
2. Tire wear, this is my DD and I live on a windy mountain road

4.56s, 4.0 I6, and 35s arent bad around here or in the hills. Its in the high elevation mountains that it really really suffers and keep overdrive on on some highway climbs.

But I expect it would be significently more powerful with 33s. Can always get bigger tires later =) But why would tire wear be an issue? Why would 33s wear more then 35s? Ive seen MT/Rs last 40,000 miles

Cue-Ball
03-22-2005, 02:39 PM
I am just going by Norcaljr, and goingofforadings experience with 35's and 4.56 gears.

As for tire wear, I am really not sure if the 35's will really hold up to all the mountina driving I do every day is all.

ATL ZJ
03-22-2005, 06:43 PM
My concerns with 35's is:

1. My gears are only going to be 4.56's
2. Tire wear, this is my DD and I live on a windy mountain road

4.56s will work FINE with 35s.

A tire of a larger diameter will complete fewer revolutions per mile, thereby giving you more mileage out of them.

I'm running 35s on my DD and have had no problems. I am running 4.88s, but 4.56s aren't that much higher.

Cue-Ball
03-22-2005, 06:45 PM
I know the 35's WILL look much better also.

Cue-Ball
03-23-2005, 12:51 PM
Just wanted to let you all know I have found a place that makes aftermarket motor mounts for the ZJ's.

The place is down in So. Cal. called Autofab. You can check out their webiste here http://www.autofab.com/ John really hooked me up with a sweet deal on them.

Here are a few pix, SJGrand has them right now for powder coating I should be getting them back this weekend and installed the following weekend.

http://www.fototime.com/{F4BE8EAC-5FAD-4BD8-B796-F477D67509C2}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{658767C5-19A0-415F-BD77-9C13828E31E5}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{C0DBD211-0A43-486F-9A7E-8AB65CE0679E}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{5F0D05D8-1316-4F41-BEBA-CE57CC24D104}/picture.JPG

They use a poly bushing that is replaceable so these are a GREAT upgrade and to tell you the truth the price was just about the same as what I could get from my friend at the dealership (and I get a deal on the stuff from there).

John does alot of other stuff also so check out his website.

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
03-23-2005, 02:38 PM
looks good, you gonna help us out with a motor mount writeup? mine are close to shot.

Cue-Ball
03-23-2005, 02:54 PM
looks good, you gonna help us out with a motor mount writeup? mine are close to shot.

You know I will. Come on now. As soon as I get them back I will have a full write up and review of how they ride after wards.

Nordic1
03-23-2005, 03:37 PM
lol jack motor up, unbolt, pull out old motor mount, drop new one in, bolt down, lower engine :axe:

Cue-Ball
03-23-2005, 03:45 PM
When you put it that way, I guess it does seem rather simple. :finga:

JeepinHank
03-23-2005, 11:52 PM
lol jack motor up, unbolt, pull out old motor mount, drop new one in, bolt down, lower engine :axe:

You left out bust knuckles while fighting with stupid bolt under steering shaft / shield and then attempting to administer first aid to said knuckles with one hand.

Nordic1
03-23-2005, 11:54 PM
lol and repeated trips to a hardware store for easy outs when the bolts sheer off

Cue-Ball
03-28-2005, 04:15 PM
Just a few pix of the Jeep WITHOUT the gold wheels and street tires.

http://www.fototime.com/{0E0B5633-1296-47A3-9B86-785220920FB7}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{25D416BE-6171-442D-8A46-6A9FD1C94DAA}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{57D8701C-096E-4E22-988C-311B5579064D}/picture.JPG

(and yes these are poser shots!!!)

I guess I need one of it at normal hieght to show how much better it looks.

MaineZJ
03-28-2005, 04:28 PM
look like street slicks to me

Cue-Ball
03-28-2005, 04:33 PM
Okay they are BFG AT's 32x11.5x15. And are WAY WAY better than the tires I used to have on it.

My next set will be GoodYear MT/R's when I do my axle swaps.

OverkillZJ
03-28-2005, 05:08 PM
:partyman:

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
03-28-2005, 07:43 PM
someone stole the badges off your door! BTW in your 8 month build work up do you have sliders planned somewhere in there?


oh yea and red zj's > not red ZJ

Cue-Ball
03-28-2005, 07:49 PM
someone stole the badges off your door! BTW in your 8 month build work up do you have sliders planned somewhere in there?


oh yea and red zj's > not red ZJ

Yea one of the first things I did was shave off all the emblems.

I do have sliders planned infact I picked them up when I was in LA last month.

http://www.fototime.com/{683FDFFC-0265-4B4D-A171-D484A7B0BE5B}/picture.JPG

I think it is more like a year build up. I think I bought my 8.8 back in May of last year. Things are moving ahead though but trust me way to damn slow, but what can you do. Tough when I have a family to feed and all that, sometimes house stuff has to come before Jeep stuff.

Cue-Ball
03-28-2005, 07:51 PM
BTW in your 8 month build work up

You know it would move along alot faster if you all would buy more Amsoil from me :supz:

JeepinHank
03-29-2005, 09:46 AM
Tough when I have a family to feed and all that, sometimes house stuff has to come before Jeep stuff.

You can say that again.

I never realized how much disposable income I had back when I was in school, working part-time, and living at the folks house. lol

I need to figure out how to set up a side business where I can write off all of the tools I've bought. The shitty thing is you have to reflect a profit within three years (five if you're a farmer) to keep it from being classified as a hobby. Hobby losses = nondeductible for income tax purposes.

There's your tax tip for the month. :smt003

MaineZJ
03-29-2005, 10:11 AM
if you like playing on anything besides rocks - forget the MT/R
TrXus is better allaround tire

OverkillZJ
03-29-2005, 10:47 AM
if you like playing on anything besides rocks - forget the MT/R
TrXus is better allaround tire

If you want your tires to last more than 12,000 miles and not rip sidewalls, I'll take the MTR. I've had both, and even with how much I don't like the MTR in mud, it does amazing on rocks, not bad in the sand, and it gets the job done in the mud. Who likes mud anyway?

snarfer86
03-29-2005, 12:05 PM
Tough when I have a family to feed and all that, sometimes house stuff has to come before Jeep stuff.

You can say that again.

I never realized how much disposable income I had back when I was in school, working part-time, and living at the folks house. lol

I need to figure out how to set up a side business where I can write off all of the tools I've bought. The shitty thing is you have to reflect a profit within three years (five if you're a farmer) to keep it from being classified as a hobby. Hobby losses = nondeductible for income tax purposes.

There's your tax tip for the month. :smt003

I love that tax law, my dad bought his new F-250 through farm credit, he got it for like 500 more than the dealer payed for it and no sales tax on it, and when hes done paying off the lese theres a $1 buy out, and all cause we have 4 acres of almonds :supz:

Cue-Ball
04-17-2005, 12:15 PM
Okay, not really sure why I am sharing this with you guys, but for some strange reason I have formed a bit of a bond with you knuckle heads so here goes.

I got my Crane diff cover for the 8.8 last week and so I went out to dry fit it and grind the axle to fit, I also figured why not shave a little off the bottom of the diff at the same time. THIS WAS A MISTAKE.

Here is a pic of the results when I decided to stop.

http://www.fototime.com/{9242E5EA-41A6-4383-99A3-FBBF26BE6D08}/picture.JPG

So I now need to really shave the crap out of it and plate it with some 1/4" plate I guess.

I am thinking of something like this:
http://www.code4x4.com/projects/axle_88/axle_88.html

But not going all out with the ring and truss stuff just the lower plating portion.

Any opinions?

OverkillZJ
04-17-2005, 12:36 PM
Oooooooooooooooooooops

Cue-Ball
04-17-2005, 01:16 PM
Big time.

Oh well this is how we learn.

ATL ZJ
04-17-2005, 03:22 PM
Wow. That sucks.. Well at least now you can do some sort of cool skid on the bottom of it..

Nordic1
04-17-2005, 10:43 PM
DUDE!!!!!!!! Go with it! Shave (or have machined) all the way down till just above the ring gear and then have jerod tig/stick like a 3/8" plate back on there... SUPER BLING!

bburgi
04-17-2005, 10:46 PM
Definately, fully shaved is the only way to go :tonqe:

Cue-Ball
04-18-2005, 12:10 AM
Yea I am still toying with different options, to be honest I am still really upset about the whole thing so I am not thinking clear about it.

More than likely I will cut the bottom prtion off all together and come up with a plate of some kind.

Might mess with it more next weekend or the following weekend.

Stay tuned as the saga continues.

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
04-18-2005, 01:46 AM
there isnt really alot to shave on an 8.8 anyway, hence your results when you tried to. its not like a 14b that you can just trim a few inches off the housing without modifying the ring gear, its pretty much as good as it gets.

Cue-Ball
04-18-2005, 09:05 AM
Yea I know that now.

norcaljr
04-18-2005, 11:37 PM
Okay, not really sure why I am sharing this with you guys, but for some strange reason I have formed a bit of a bond with you knuckle heads so here goes.

I got my Crane diff cover for the 8.8 last week and so I went out to dry fit it and grind the axle to fit, I also figured why not shave a little off the bottom of the diff at the same time. THIS WAS A MISTAKE.

Here is a pic of the results when I decided to stop.

http://www.fototime.com/{9242E5EA-41A6-4383-99A3-FBBF26BE6D08}/picture.JPG

So I now need to really shave the crap out of it and plate it with some 1/4" plate I guess.

I am thinking of something like this:
http://www.code4x4.com/projects/axle_88/axle_88.html

But not going all out with the ring and truss stuff just the lower plating portion.

Any opinions?


ouch !!!!!!

I have some 3/8's plate at the ranch that you could use, or if you need another size let me know and I might be able to pick some up for you from modesto steel.

Cue-Ball
04-19-2005, 12:55 AM
Thanks Jim,

Do you guys think 3/8 is strong enough or should I go with 1/2"?

Should not need to much just some scraps is all it should take.

Cue-Ball
04-19-2005, 12:56 AM
Hey Jim,

Did you get the wiper blade I sent you?

ogdak
04-21-2005, 04:11 PM
That realy sucks man.
But I will keep it in mind working on my own 8.8

blackjak71
04-22-2005, 08:34 PM
hindsight is 20/20 man

Cue-Ball
04-28-2005, 05:42 PM
Okay on a brighter note.

I am picking up my set of Clayton long arms on Saturday and my HP30 is turning out nice with the POR-15 paint. (I need to get those pictures loaded still).

I may even be purchasing a set of 35" Xterrains that are basically brand new from a local guy who is stepping down to 33's. I know they are Pro-Comps but the price is sure right.

I think the only things I have left to do will be to get the gears installed in my HP30, and then load up all the stuff and head out to AW's shop to get this install moving.

Give me a few more months and then this thing will be rockin' (if all goes as planned that is).

ogdak
04-28-2005, 06:38 PM
Good luck, keep us posted

Cue-Ball
04-28-2005, 06:40 PM
Trust me I will keep you all up to date.

(Although my install will not be nearly as entertaining as project Phoenix was :prayer: )

OverkillZJ
04-28-2005, 06:51 PM
Trust me I will keep you all up to date.

(Although my install will not be nearly as entertaining as project Phoenix was :prayer: )

For the sake of your sanity, I hope not! :butthead:

Cue-Ball
04-29-2005, 11:41 AM
Okay here are some pix of the HP30 after acid stripping and then painted with POR-15.

http://www.fototime.com/{B8C05F15-5AD1-4B59-9F56-63F5AB0B480B}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{15BCE1BD-0E2D-4FE1-8202-D36C6DF21DD7}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{3842320D-4B17-490F-A720-3A3438E20262}/picture.JPG

Now with POR-15

http://www.fototime.com/{16AE1135-4F13-41F8-B55A-2186C3EEEA86}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{5876E6D3-CDFC-44ED-82DB-29266B0FEAEF}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{97E1E2FA-97C4-4108-B81E-263029E5A959}/picture.JPG

Had to hit the Crane cover with the POR also.

http://www.fototime.com/{6C2C10E8-EBA5-4455-B239-00F546A5D2FC}/picture.JPG

I still need to touch up a few spots then I will take off all the tape and get a good shot of inside the diff to show how clean it came out.

As with all my pictures you can see the full sized ones at my FotoTime site along with others that may not have been posted here.

Stay tuned more to come...

Nordic1
04-29-2005, 11:48 AM
Lol you're bling'n dude :mrgreen:

Cue-Ball
04-29-2005, 11:50 AM
Yea yea yea.

I am really impressed with the POR-15, that stuff is really tough. I spilled some on the ground at the house and I can not even break through it with a shovel, this stuff is TOUGH!!!

norcaljr
04-29-2005, 10:19 PM
Dirk,

you know you still need to paint or coat the POR-15 right ? the UV light will kill it with the quickness.

OverkillZJ
04-30-2005, 02:38 AM
Dirk,

you know you still need to paint or coat the POR-15 right ? the UV light will kill it with the quickness.

Really? (no, I'm not being sarcastic)

Cue-Ball
04-30-2005, 04:20 AM
Dirk,

you know you still need to paint or coat the POR-15 right ? the UV light will kill it with the quickness.

Yes and No.

True the POR-15 is not UV rated, POR does make a top coat (that I have) but since the axle is not going to be in direct sunlight it is actually fine to leave just as is.

For my suspension parts I will paint them with POR-15 and then top them with chassis coat it is a flat black color, and when applied at the right time over the POR-15 I am told it is very similar in strength and what not as powder coating.

I will have to keep you guys posted on that one though. I will probably strip down my rock rails and cover them in that manner.

ogdak
04-30-2005, 06:34 AM
the axle is not going to be in direct sunlight.


"Please roll me over"








Very nice job :yawinkle:

Cue-Ball
04-30-2005, 09:07 PM
My goal is NOT to roll this thing but you know how plans go sometimes.

bburgi
04-30-2005, 09:38 PM
Man, that thing is CLEAN. :prayer:

You're going to shame me into cleaning up my crap!

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
04-30-2005, 11:53 PM
be careful dirk, you might actually get that thing done someday. I just spend all day sandblasting the living shiat outta my HP30 and wow, matt was right, Super PITA.

Cue-Ball
05-01-2005, 01:24 AM
Your right Puma, I am starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I just picked up my Clayton's this morning, damn there were 4 boxes 3 were 63 pounds and one was 18. That is alot of steel.

I have also worked out a deal on 5 35" XTerrains I will be picking up in a couple of weeks.

So the only things I have left to do before starting the install is put the HP30 back together (gears, ball joints, knuckles, ect. ect. Then the install can begin, I will order limit straps and get the driveshafts machined once the axles and everything are installed, that way I can get everything the perfect size.

I have also decided to leave the 249 in for the time being and after the long arms and axles, save a little money and get an Atlas II TC. Once I do the TC, I will install Detroits front/rear and go with new driveshafts front/rear.

But that will not all happen until about this time next year (unless of course the 249 takes a crap then... I will talk the wife into letting me get the Atlas at that time.

Also wanted to let you know I installed my deep tranny pan and Amsoil ATF today. Looks great and best of all that tranny temp gauge I have on my A pillar finally moves.

I did however manage to strip out one of the bolt holes so I need to pick up a Heli-coil kit Monday, it just barley seeps out so I should be okay until I get under there with the correct size Heli-coil.

Cue-Ball
05-02-2005, 10:21 AM
Well it looks like the tranny is leaking a bit more than just seeping out. I am hoping it is just that one bolt hole that is causing the problem if not I am not sure what else it could be.

JeepinHank
05-02-2005, 12:23 PM
Did you use RTV or an actual gasket?

I used RTV last time I changed my tranny fluid, and it leaks like a civ.

I've got a real mopar gasket for the next time. Of course, my transmission pan has been supporting the transmission for so long, it will probably never seat correctly again. :rolleyes:

Cue-Ball
05-02-2005, 12:27 PM
I used one of the Mopar gaskets.

I am hoping it is just the one stripped out bolt hole, but I doubt it with my luck.

What I did not check was to be sure the flange was perfectly straight, it is really thick though so I would not have thought it would have warped. Damn I hate to have to drop the pan again it is really a mess and I am already starting to get complains from neighbors about all the work I have been doing lately on the Jeep.

OverkillZJ
05-02-2005, 12:30 PM
I've had the opposite experience, I used a Mopar gasket and it leaked like no other. But I used some GOOD black RTV last June and it's still going strong; even though I've added several dents to the tranny pan.

Cue-Ball
05-02-2005, 12:42 PM
Well I am going to try the new bolt fix first and then see what happens. I am tempted to use a good bead of the "right stuff" gasket maker (black RTV) that is the stuff that Crane sends out with each of their diff covers.

I just like the idea of a dry gasket as it makes it easier to remove and replace the pan, and it is reuseable (but if it leaks then screw that).

nate
05-02-2005, 04:00 PM
"The right stuff" works great, but good luck pulling the pan off. May as well use JB Weld. I broke a plastic 8.8 cover in half trying to pry it off after I used that stuff :rolleyes:

OverkillZJ
05-02-2005, 04:02 PM
"The right stuff" works great, but good luck pulling the pan off. May as well use JB Weld. I broke a plastic 8.8 cover in half trying to pry it off after I used that stuff :rolleyes:

LOL, I just use the Napa black stuff, it seems to be similar though. Then again, I do take a BFH to get my diff covers off :toimonst:

Cue-Ball
05-02-2005, 04:04 PM
Well I will keep you all posted. You can imagine how pissed I am that the damn thing is still leaking, not only that it is leaking out pricey Amsoil. I will need to get this fixed sooner than later, I will hopefully pick up the Heli-coil on the way home and depending on timing I might try to install it tonight.

Nordic1
05-02-2005, 04:33 PM
Dude you're going to do detroit's F/R (IN THE HP30) and an atlas... if you're shelling out for that much bling, why don't you go with ARBs? I don't think your 30 anythings will apreaciate the ratcheting action anyway.


Oh and F Atlas... When the time comes, I'm going to save up for a STaK box

Cue-Ball
05-02-2005, 04:36 PM
I might put an ARB up front to be honest I have just not thought to much about it yet. I saw the Stak box site and it looked pretty good actually but just not sure I want to go down the new product road, I want to try and stick with the tried and true.

OverkillZJ
05-02-2005, 04:43 PM
Dude you're going to do detroit's F/R (IN THE HP30) and an atlas... if you're shelling out for that much bling, why don't you go with ARBs? I don't think your 30 anythings will apreaciate the ratcheting action anyway.


Oh and F Atlas... When the time comes, I'm going to save up for a STaK box

An ARB is no stronger than a Detroit. The new Detroits are quiet as limited slips. A Stak box costs a few grand too much. So what, exactly was your point again?

Besides, if he's going with a tcase that has 2Lo, having any kind of selectable locker up front isn't really needed.

Why don't you go wheel your rig?

Cue-Ball
05-02-2005, 04:46 PM
Trust me we have PLENTY of time to figure out what locker for the front. I mean look how long it has taken me to get my axles and long arms in (well there not even in yet) but you know what I mean.

OverkillZJ
05-02-2005, 04:51 PM
Trust me we have PLENTY of time to figure out what locker for the front. I mean look how long it has taken me to get my axles and long arms in (well there not even in yet) but you know what I mean.

I know, but I saw an opportunity to make fun of Chase so I took it :weedman:

Cue-Ball
05-02-2005, 04:53 PM
Oh don't get me wrong I love to pick on Chase just as much as anyone.

Why is that anyway?

He is just so easy to pick on. When we get together at AW's shop everyone gangs up on him big time, it's too funny.

Nordic1
05-02-2005, 10:35 PM
Yea you guys pick on me... and then I end up doing something stupid (rocks)

Cue-Ball
05-03-2005, 01:09 AM
Ah it's all good Chase, we love ya man :goodman:

Cue-Ball
05-09-2005, 11:48 AM
Okay so I used the Heli-coil kit this weekend on the 2 stripped holes I had and the damn thing is STILL Leaking.

So I will run it this way for a little while as I just don't have the time to drop the pan, and try to peen the bolt holes and then maybe run a thick bead of RTV, I am just slammed for the next few weekends, oh well will just carry some extra ATF in the back and make sure I keep it full.

The LAST thing I need at this point is to burn up the tranny, that's for sure.

norcaljr
05-09-2005, 09:20 PM
Okay so I used the Heli-coil kit this weekend on the 2 stripped holes I had and the damn thing is STILL Leaking.

So I will run it this way for a little while as I just don't have the time to drop the pan, and try to peen the bolt holes and then maybe run a thick bead of RTV, I am just slammed for the next few weekends, oh well will just carry some extra ATF in the back and make sure I keep it full.

The LAST thing I need at this point is to burn up the tranny, that's for sure.


so you used the mopar gasket again ?

OverkillZJ
05-09-2005, 09:26 PM
Okay so I used the Heli-coil kit this weekend on the 2 stripped holes I had and the damn thing is STILL Leaking.

So I will run it this way for a little while as I just don't have the time to drop the pan, and try to peen the bolt holes and then maybe run a thick bead of RTV, I am just slammed for the next few weekends, oh well will just carry some extra ATF in the back and make sure I keep it full.

The LAST thing I need at this point is to burn up the tranny, that's for sure.


so you used the mopar gasket again ?

I think he may've put the helicoil kit on without dropping the pan (amsoil and all) and was just hoping that tightening that bolt up would prevent the leak. I dunno, I think good RTV might be your friend here :rolleyes:

nate
05-09-2005, 09:48 PM
Yeah, that's why I don't "waste" my money on bling bling oil. Its nice and all, but too expensive for me. I change the T Case, trannd and diff oils at least 2-3 times a year. I had checked into Amsoil, they carry it at the gas station on base. $7 a quart for ATF and gear oil.

Cue-Ball
05-09-2005, 10:59 PM
Matt your correct I did the heli-coil with out dropping the pan.

Nate, I still really believe that Amsoil is better than conventional oil and since I am a dealer I get it at a great price.

Cue-Ball
05-09-2005, 11:04 PM
So Jim,

Where you able to get your pan installed before you headed up to Alaska?

norcaljr
05-10-2005, 12:13 AM
So Jim,

Where you able to get your pan installed before you headed up to Alaska?


nope... it was raining most of the day and then I got to busy packing. I should be home sooner than I thought, so I'll have a few extra days near the end of next week to get it done... as long as the weather holds out here in Alaska and back home.

Right now its like 68 here in Alaska , I should have brought some shorts :smt003

OverkillZJ
05-10-2005, 12:15 AM
Yeah, that's why I don't "waste" my money on bling bling oil. Its nice and all, but too expensive for me. I change the T Case, trannd and diff oils at least 2-3 times a year. I had checked into Amsoil, they carry it at the gas station on base. $7 a quart for ATF and gear oil.

I wouldn't trade my Amsoil for the world.

DND
05-10-2005, 12:22 AM
Hey Dirk, it's rare you can get a cork trans gasket to seal once it's had fluid leak past it. I'd say get a fresh gasket, gently flatten the pan sealing surface with a hammer and you should be good.

norcaljr
05-10-2005, 01:27 AM
Hey Dirk, it's rare you can get a cork trans gasket to seal once it's had fluid leak past it. I'd say get a fresh gasket, gently flatten the pan sealing surface with a hammer and you should be good.

he's using the mopar rubber one.

Cue-Ball
05-10-2005, 01:31 AM
Jim,

You beat me to it I was going to post the same thing, before the site went down.

Anyway, I am using the Mopar rubber gasket. I will be out of town in LA this coming weekend on a side job for my mother-in-law so maybe the weekend after that I can drop the pan and see what I can figure out.

DND
05-11-2005, 02:53 PM
Hey Dirk, it's rare you can get a cork trans gasket to seal once it's had fluid leak past it. I'd say get a fresh gasket, gently flatten the pan sealing surface with a hammer and you should be good.

he's using the mopar rubber one.

Oops, my bad.

Dirk, this is on your new cast Mopar pan right? Did you ever achieve a good seal? Might want to check the pan surface for flatness. Just a thought.

Cue-Ball
05-11-2005, 04:22 PM
Correct it is on the new cast pan. In the next couple of weeks I will drop the pan to see what's up.

Cue-Ball
05-16-2005, 07:16 PM
Okay so I noticed that the tranny was leaking more and more while I was down in LA. So after driving 6 hours home Sunday, I decided to drop the pan and see what the hell was going on.

And like I figured everything looked right. I checked to be sure the pan was flat and that the bolt holes were not protruding past the face of the flange, nothing everything looked good to me.

So I break out the "right stuff" and lay on a good bead all the way around and around all the bolt holes, I give it a minute or two to set up and slap it back on. Stripped out 2 more holes in the process so Heli-coiled them and everything looked good. Poured back in the ATF and took her for a spin. All looked good until I drove to work this morning. Looks like it is leaking a tiny bit, not sure but I am hoping that it is just some of the resudual stuff that was on the underside of the vehicle as I did not have any stuff to clean it up that well at the house.

If not, well then it will just leak a little until I get to AW's shop to do my axle swap and long arms, at that time we will pull it all apart and really see what the hell's going on.

norcaljr
05-16-2005, 08:28 PM
Okay so I noticed that the tranny was leaking more and more while I was down in LA. So after driving 6 hours home Sunday, I decided to drop the pan and see what the hell was going on.

And like I figured everything looked right. I checked to be sure the pan was flat and that the bolt holes were not protruding past the face of the flange, nothing everything looked good to me.

So I break out the "right stuff" and lay on a good bead all the way around and around all the bolt holes, I give it a minute or two to set up and slap it back on. Stripped out 2 more holes in the process so Heli-coiled them and everything looked good. Poured back in the ATF and took her for a spin. All looked good until I drove to work this morning. Looks like it is leaking a tiny bit, not sure but I am hoping that it is just some of the resudual stuff that was on the underside of the vehicle as I did not have any stuff to clean it up that well at the house.

If not, well then it will just leak a little until I get to AW's shop to do my axle swap and long arms, at that time we will pull it all apart and really see what the hell's going on.


damn... that sucks....

Cue-Ball
05-16-2005, 08:29 PM
Yea tell me about it. I am hoping that is is just some of the left over stuff as it does not look like alot, but with my luck it will be something elsse I am sure.

Have you had a chance to do yours yet?

norcaljr
05-16-2005, 08:38 PM
no, it was raining the weekend i left.... and had too much to do.... if I get home thursday, then i'll try to do it friday.

Cue-Ball
05-28-2005, 01:46 PM
Okay guys, I know you all thought I was full of shit with as long as it is taking for me to get this project from the parts collecting stage to the install phase, well tomorrow the Clayton subframe gets welded in, and the HP30 gets dropped off for the gear install.

I will have pics of the subframe work tomorrow night or Monday.

I can not believe this project is finally about to move off center and will soon be a reality. :mrgreen:

Cue-Ball
05-31-2005, 06:23 PM
Okay guys, got the sub frame all welded in on Sunday. Here are a few pix:

http://www.fototime.com/{0F6C5986-BB9A-4933-8787-8AB38E664347}/picture.JPG

The cross member I got was for a pre-95 so AW had to modify it to work

http://www.fototime.com/{515A3AF5-21F7-4555-B496-A3EE1B8FBA4F}/picture.JPG

You can check out all the pix at my fototime site.

Cue-Ball
06-06-2005, 11:23 AM
Just a quick update, I got the exhaust work done over the weekend. We moved the CAT forward (also discovered it is a Car Sounds high flow cat :mrgreen:) and installed the used Flowmaster 40 I picked up a while ago for basically nothing. It all tucks up pretty close to the floor so it will be pretty easy to build a skid plate once the long arms are done, and everything is forward of the rear control arm mounts so there should be no fitment issues.

No I need to concentrate on tracking down and repairing the tranny leak, turns out it was not the pan at all. Looks like it is between the front half and rear half of the tranny on the rear side.

Anyone know if there is a gasket or seal of some kind between the 2 halves of the tranny? Or is that even making sense?

Cue-Ball
06-09-2005, 12:55 AM
Okay I broke down and took the Jeep to the local tranny shop the other day and he is not sure why it is leaking (I only did a quick drive by to have him peak at it). In talking with him and Wayne at APS it seems like the leak is between the tranny and the extension housing the holds the over drive unit. The local shop wants like $4-500 to test it out to determine exactly where the leak is and then repair it. Wayne from APS says for $100 if I bring him the tranny (out of the Jeep) he will go throught the entire thing and give it a quick "tune up" and determine and repainr the leak.

So I am planning to drop the tranny at AW's shop the first part of July and get it down to Wayne and get it resolved once and for all.

The catch is, the expense is eating into my long arm/axle swap budget. Oh well that seems to be the story of my lfe on this project.

So all I can say is PLEASE buy some AMSOIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on help a brother out!!!!! :supz:

Cue-Ball
06-18-2005, 07:51 PM
Quick update.

Timing is not working out well with my tranny, AW, and APS, soo I am going to end up taking it to the local shop one day this week (hopefully) to get it repaired, just feel like a dick head leaving a puddle everywhere I park.

I also noticed on the way home from work yesterday that it appears that my catalytic converter took a dump yesterday, ship is rattling around inside like a big dog, so I will be calling Scott at Minute Muffler on Monday to see if he can get me a new Car Sounds cat and what his schedule looks like.

Luckily the 35" tire deal I had cooking sorta mutually fell through, the guy decided he wanted to keep them and I decided I needed to fix shit before buying new shit. So it is working out. I am just pissed that all this crap has to happen all at the same time, I was getting so close to completing this shit.

Nordic1
06-18-2005, 08:43 PM
Luckily the 35" tire deal I had cooking sorta mutually fell through, the guy decided he wanted to keep them and I decided I needed to fix shit before buying new shit. So it is working out. I am just pissed that all this crap has to happen all at the same time, I was getting so close to completing this shit.

Speaking of that guy... you should see Lawrence's Atlas... it's THUGGIN sick

Cue-Ball
06-18-2005, 08:48 PM
Yea I am going to try and swing by AW's shop next weekend to check it out on my way home from LA again.

I just sold my 242 so I will either go Atlas or maybe Stak4x4, who knows, I need to get my shit fixed first then I will figure out what parts to use to build it.

So come on guys who needs some oil or tranny fluid???

Nordic1
06-18-2005, 08:53 PM
Yea I am going to try and swing by AW's shop next weekend to check it out on my way home from LA again.

I just sold my 242 so I will either go Atlas or maybe Stak4x4, who knows, I need to get my shit fixed first then I will figure out what parts to use to build it.

So come on guys who needs some oil or tranny fluid???


STaKs not coming out till august last I heard... However when I have that kind of money, I will for sure be getting one :smt003

AW, NorCalJR and I are heading up to the con next weekend... but Jerod (and probably me as well) will be at the shop the following weekend

Cue-Ball
06-18-2005, 08:59 PM
I won't be doing a TC for atleast several months if not years at the rate I am going.

I forgot about your trip to the Con, maybe I will meet up with you guys the following weekend then.

Cue-Ball
07-09-2005, 02:55 AM
Just a quick update.

I am still moving forward on this project it is just moving at a snails pace it seems.

The Jeep goes to the local tranny shop on Weds, to finally get the leak taken care of.

I worked out another deal with a different seller for some 35x12.5x15 GoodYear MTR's (set of 5) that a buddy of mine is picking up for me early next week in Sac. Got a sweet deal.

So once I find out what the damage to the checking account the tranny is going to cause will determine what the next piece is I get.

I will keep you all posted (assuming of course anyone is actually reading this thread any longer).

So who wants to buy some Amsoil and help me get my shit finished??

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
07-10-2005, 03:49 AM
I will keep you all posted (assuming of course anyone is actually reading this thread any longer).

So who wants to buy some Amsoil and help me get my shit finished??

we're still reading, I don't know of many people that actually finish their projects as soon as they'd like. However I am beating you, my gears are being set up for my HP30 as we speak. :finga:

Cue-Ball
07-10-2005, 10:40 AM
Yea Puma,

I am getting closer and closer.

The tires were the last high dollar item.
Right now it is looking like end of August time frame (I hope)

Cue-Ball
07-14-2005, 09:14 PM
***********MAJOR SET BACK**********

Got the Jeep back from the tranny shop and well it is not good news. When I was installing one of the heli-coils earlier I drilled to deep and drilled into the OD housing JUST far enough to put a small hole in it. Took them a while to find it actually.

So a new tranny is on the menu now.

I am talking with Wayne over at APS about building a custom one for me, I mean if I'm going to spend $3k+ I might as well have something to show for it, why replace with just stock after all.

So now I really need to sell some Amsoil!!!!!!!!!!!

LouisianaZJ
07-14-2005, 10:13 PM
i dunno man. seems like they could just weld up that little hole and replace the 2 seals between the t/c and trans. there is one on the back of the trans and one on the front of the t-case (about $20)

I know i need to do mine sometime on the XJ mine leaks alot right there. oh well, been over a year and it drips on the t-case skid :D

actually my AW4 has a couple spots where someone JBwelded some holes or something. I dont know why. but "it works" :finga: so im not gonna mess with sucess

took me about 7 months to get my axles finally finished f/r

Cue-Ball
07-15-2005, 02:33 PM
actually my AW4 has a couple spots where someone JBwelded some holes or something. I dont know why. but "it works" :finga: so im not gonna mess with sucess

Actually never thought about that. I might try the JB weld as a temp. fix to get me from leaving a puddle everywhere I park.

I am working with APS right now on the a killer preformance tranny to replace mine with here in hopefully the not to distant future. I have to say Wayne over there knows his shit, and is really great to work with, and is working with me to build the right fit not only for the application but my wallet as well.

I will keep you posted once I decide exactly what I am going to have built. But I can tell you this it will be a 44RE (the V8 model) instead of the 42RE stock 4.0 tranny, and it will be a direct bolt in!!

I just need to figure out exactly how much I can spend and then we can custom taylor it to my needs.

phillyzj
07-15-2005, 03:04 PM
maybe i missed something, but why not swap in a low mileage aw4? they seem to be bulletproof for the xj guys, and the swap is not overly difficult.

http://www.stu-offroad.com/index.shtm li think has a writeup on the electronics. if my 42RE goes again and i'm not ready for a v8 swap, an aw4 is def going in.

Cue-Ball
07-15-2005, 03:07 PM
I will look into that.

TrojanMan
07-15-2005, 03:55 PM
the trouble with the AW4 is that the only ones that came in ZJ's are OBDI and take a crapload of work to put in OBDII. You can get an AW4 out of an XJ, but it has to be 96+, which isn't common in junkyards yet.

LouisianaZJ
07-15-2005, 04:08 PM
yeah but the early AW4's had a stand alone puter. i guess it could work, i would think you would only have to trick the stock NSS and a few other things on the stock zj tranny

TrojanMan
07-15-2005, 04:19 PM
yeah but the early AW4's had a stand alone puter. i guess it could work, i would think you would only have to trick the stock NSS and a few other things on the stock zj tranny

if that's the case maybe it wouldn't be too difficult? anybody else know anything about the AW4 in that respect?

phillyzj
07-17-2005, 09:50 PM
sorry, i edited the link, it works now. the guy did put it into an obdII vehicle, though not a zj.

yes it would take some work, but the seperate computer would make it pretty managable. I'm pretty sure even if the computer isn't wired correctly you can still shift it manually...

talk to ryan aka cheapxj.com over on jeepin.com. I don't know how much he's around but i know he can help you.

mikebeach
07-18-2005, 02:41 PM
http://awshifting.com/shifters.htm

Cue-Ball
08-21-2005, 12:31 AM
Oaky it is official, I have bought a commuter car so that I can hopefully move forward on the Jeep.

So here is where I am now:

The Jeep is over at a buddies shop, he is going to replace the OD housing and give the tranny a good once over to make sure everything is dialed in. I ended up trading him my 35" MTR's for the parts and labor, I also hear he might have a stroker kit laying around he is not going to be using (am going to talk to him about that on Monday, hmmm??).

The 8.8 is still over at AW's shop and will be getting the hole fixed, tubes welded, and brake kit installed over the next few months, yes the next few months, AW just started a new job and well I need to actually pay some bills, you know how it goes.

The new goal is to try and be done by the end of the year, BUT I have said that before so we will see.

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
08-21-2005, 02:53 PM
good stuff, whats the commuter car ya got?

Cue-Ball
08-21-2005, 05:50 PM
88 Camaro 2.8L V-6 so it should help on the gas a little also. I will try to get some pix up in the morning of it.

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
08-21-2005, 09:00 PM
dude... sweeeeet

http://www.cinemamontreal.com/images/people-714-David_Spade.jpg

LouisianaZJ
08-21-2005, 09:03 PM
bitchin camaro > *.*

Cue-Ball
08-22-2005, 09:57 AM
Yea I was waiting for the Joe Dirt comment. :finga:

Cue-Ball
09-10-2005, 12:35 AM
Sorry I forgot to post pix of the Camaro, I will do that on Monday from the office (not sure how to resize them from the house).

I talked with the guy who is doing my tranny today and I should be getting the Jeep back sometime next week. I am a bit behind on the funds to finish it just now since the purchase of the Camaro and some needed repairs, BUT don't worry this project will get moving again really soon. My wife has now decided I need to have it donw by the end of the year SOOO that should free up some cash to get it finished.


(you know you guys could help the project along by ordering some Amsoil, or the parts list CD's :supz: :supz: )

Kraqa
09-10-2005, 12:17 PM
i'd order both. Buuuut right now i cannot offord the oil. and i'm affraid the there is nit enough stock jeep left for the parts list to benefit me.

5 Speed ZJ
09-10-2005, 01:13 PM
Dirk,

you should open up a donation account. kinda like feed the homeless, except it'd be "build someone elses Jeep". This is a novel idea. I'd donate a dollar. Maybe 2. Well I wanna see the joe dirt machine so get pics!

-E

Cue-Ball
09-10-2005, 08:38 PM
Joe Dirt pix on Monday for sure.

Anyone can feel free to donate $$ to my paypal account at amsoildirk@yahoo.com.

Kris, You are probably right that the parts list would not help you out that much :mrgreen:

Cue-Ball
09-12-2005, 11:22 AM
Okay guys here is the Joe Dirt mobile.

http://www.fototime.com/{97437F33-D489-4333-B978-53A0B1F99452}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{7AA81BD7-D7A7-4315-B6B0-A7EAC4A50A57}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{79676339-2691-47E9-B07B-C6405F6DF8E9}/picture.JPG

OverkillZJ
09-12-2005, 11:33 AM
Dirk - NICE!

Kraqa
09-12-2005, 11:35 AM
JOE DIRT? OR jOE dIRK?

Cue-Ball
09-12-2005, 11:48 AM
The price was right. $500 and I drove it home. Will end up putting $500-750 into it getting it all mechanically sound, and then use it as my DD until the Jeep is done. Then next summer when my son turns 16 he can buy it from me and fix up all the cosmetic stuff if he wants.

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
09-12-2005, 01:27 PM
JOE DIRT? OR jOE dIRK?

:rofl:

Cue-Ball
09-12-2005, 01:29 PM
JOE DIRT? OR jOE dIRK?

:rofl:

Yea Yea Yea,

No mullet here, remeber I shave my head every morning.

Kraqa
09-12-2005, 02:31 PM
JOE DIRT? OR jOE dIRK?

:rofl:

Yea Yea Yea,

No mullet here, remeber I shave my head every morning.


you shoudl stop shaving the back for a while and have a wicked skullet for GSW06.

Cue-Ball
09-12-2005, 02:49 PM
JOE DIRT? OR jOE dIRK?

:rofl:

Yea Yea Yea,

No mullet here, remeber I shave my head every morning.


you shoudl stop shaving the back for a while and have a wicked skullet for GSW06.

That would be TOO funny

phillyzj
09-12-2005, 03:29 PM
The price was right. $500 and I drove it home. Will end up putting $500-750 into it getting it all mechanically sound, and then use it as my DD until the Jeep is done. Then next summer when my son turns 16 he can buy it from me and fix up all the cosmetic stuff if he wants.

that's the same 2.8's as amc put in the cherokee right? good luck getting mechanically "sound"

i think i'd rather have a $500 rice burner, but a DD is so nice. I got a bike i ride regularly, it's hard keeping it stock and reliable though, lol.

Cue-Ball
09-12-2005, 03:35 PM
Not sure if it is the same at the cherokee, but it is the same as the one I had in my 87 S-10 pickup several years ago and that thing was a champ.

The engine is pretty good, has a little tranny leak I think is just the pan gasket, but other than that the engine is pretty decent.

There is a little hacker work done on it though so there are some things I need to rectify. But for a dd it works. And the insurace is almost NOTHING and it gets better gas than the Jeep so all in all it is a plus (well it will be once I get all the crap fixed).

But NO this is NOT Turning into another project. The goal is to put as LITTLE money into the Maro as possible and get the damn Heep DONE!!!!!!!!!!

(remeber donations are being accepted via paypal at amsoildirk@yahoo.com :smt023 )

DND
09-12-2005, 04:38 PM
The engine is pretty good, has a little tranny leak I think is just the pan gasket, but other than that the engine is pretty decent.

Just a pan gasket leak, does this not sound familiar?????? :toimonst:

Cue-Ball
09-12-2005, 04:49 PM
The engine is pretty good, has a little tranny leak I think is just the pan gasket, but other than that the engine is pretty decent.

Just a pan gasket leak, does this not sound familiar?????? :toimonst:

Come on now Dave, that really hurts :smt022 . I have not been ANYWHERE near this thing with a drill so I know I did not drill a hole in the tranny this time!!

Infact I should be getting the Jeep back this week and will post up pics of the damaged tail housing when I get it back.

DND
09-12-2005, 04:59 PM
Come on now Dave, that really hurts

You're right, I guess that wound's still a little fresh to be taking shots, but I couldn't resist. :partyman: You had to see it coming though. :mrgreen:

Cue-Ball
09-12-2005, 05:01 PM
Yea I saw it coming and for some reason I am not suprised it was you that brought it up.

Dirk

Cue-Ball
09-20-2005, 05:51 PM
Just a pan gasket leak, does this not sound familiar?????? :toimonst:

Dave,

Just wanted to let you know that it is NOT the pan gasket after all.

It looks like it is the governor housing and the speedo gear housing that are leaking. They are both sealed with o-rings that cost about $.15 each. Of course you have to draing the trans to get them replaced I believe so that just opens up even more potential for problems.

I tell you one of these days I am going to off all my vehicles and buy a horse. I mean if the horse gets hurt or sick you just shoot them and get another. Would be sooo much less headace I think

DND
09-20-2005, 09:05 PM
Dave,

Just wanted to let you know that it is NOT the pan gasket after all.

It looks like it is the governor housing and the speedo gear housing that are leaking. They are both sealed with o-rings that cost about $.15 each. Of course you have to draing the trans to get them replaced I believe so that just opens up even more potential for problems.

I tell you one of these days I am going to off all my vehicles and buy a horse. I mean if the horse gets hurt or sick you just shoot them and get another. Would be sooo much less headace I think

Good to hear, those are easy fixes. I'd recommend having a sniff of the fluid as it's a good indicator as to the health of the trans. It should be a nice cherry red and not smell burnt. As it's a GM unit don't be surprised by a significant amount of dusty debris in the pan, both metallic and fiberous, hopefully no chunkies though. Do you know what model it is? Probably a 200R4, if you're lucky it's already been replaced with a 700R4. I'm assuming it's a 4spd O/D unit, 3spd probably a TH350. Why am I rambling, you probably know all this already.

I don't know about the horse thing, you have to feed them even if they're not taking you anywhere. That and if they're not eating or sleeping, they're shitting.

Cue-Ball
09-20-2005, 09:58 PM
Yea it is a 700R4. I plan to change the fluid and filter, install a drain plug and possibly a shift kit and call it done. I have to stay focused and just to the bare minimum to keep it on the road, I need to pay off some bills and then get back on the Jeep.

DND
09-20-2005, 11:17 PM
Yea it is a 700R4. I plan to change the fluid and filter, install a drain plug and possibly a shift kit and call it done. I have to stay focused and just to the bare minimum to keep it on the road, I need to pay off some bills and then get back on the Jeep.
Sounds like a good plan. I wouldn't go for too harsh of a shift kit though, no need to start barking the tires and breaking expensive bits.

I know what you mean about this being expensive. We just re-geared my wife's XJ to 4.56s w/ARBs F&R. Plus we're in he middle of building her a rear bumper w/integrated air tank, tire/hi-lift and gas can carriers. Steel is STUPID expensive. I've said it before, I'm in too deep to stop now but building two at once is nuts.

Cue-Ball
09-21-2005, 12:16 AM
Good point about breaking stuff Dave.

I am going to go with the cheapes kit I can get away with.

I can not even imagine doing 2 Jeeps at once, you all know how long I have been trying to build just this one!!!

Cue-Ball
10-31-2005, 02:23 PM
Just a quick update on the Jeep project.

I finally have the tranny not leaking. Turns out it WAS NOT the holes I drilled in the tailhousing after all, we replaced the tailhousing and upon closer inspection I realized that I did not drill in far enough to even come close to making a hole. There were a multitude of other issue with the tranny leaking and they are all just about sorted out now.

As for the axle swap and LA's still putting the rest of the money together to get her all done. Hope to get the gears installed in the HP30 around Thanksgiving, then the only thing to get would be brakes for the 8.8, then get all the parts and pieces over to AW's shop and start the install. I know I will need to have some driveshaft work done once the lift is all in so we can get some good measurements, and since I traded my 35's for the tranny work I need to breakdown and get another set of tires.

I am sure there will be some other items I am forgetting about but I think that covers the big stuff anyway.

So help me out by placing you AMSOIL orders will ya??

87XJ
11-07-2005, 07:21 PM
Hows the camaro project going?

Cue-Ball
11-07-2005, 07:36 PM
Don't go being a smartass now Brian.

I am actually going to dig into the Camaro tranny over Thanksgiving. After that and a set of tires I might off it.

87XJ
11-07-2005, 07:40 PM
not trying to be a smartass, just wondering if you got anything updated on the tranny, also is the jeep tranny fixed?

Cue-Ball
11-07-2005, 08:01 PM
also is the jeep tranny fixed?

Damn dude, you've only been around here like a day or two and your already starting shit about my tranny problems :overkill:

Cue-Ball
11-07-2005, 08:09 PM
And by the way NO IT IS NOT FIXED yet.

Cue-Ball
12-09-2005, 12:54 AM
Okay all, quick update:

I picked up the 231 TC this afternoon, has an SYE installed and looks great.

AW is done with the welding and stuff on the 8.8.

The HP30 is at the shop getting the gears installed.

So just about the only thing I have left to pick up is the DOM tubing for the steering, and then the limit straps and driveshafts after the suspension is in.

Right now looking like mid to end of Jan. to start the install.

I know I know, about fucking time, trust me I know!!!!

BlackDiamondBound
01-06-2006, 10:51 PM
still think it will be finished this month? then we can finaly go wheeling! i cant wait till is finished....if you couldnt tell by all the pm's i send you ever couple months asking about it...i'll shut the hell up now

Cue-Ball
01-07-2006, 04:44 AM
Thanks for asking Danny,

No worries on all the PM's I hope I am answering some of your questions with my responses.

It will NOT be completed this month, I was hoping to get it started this month but it is looking like it will not get started till sometime in Feb.

The goal is to be done on or around 3/12, not sure if that will happen just yet as I have alot going on right now. We just bought a new office building and well the build out is taking almost all of my time managing the general contractor and all that crap, so I really have not had the time to spend much on getting the last few parts and pieces.

But it looks like I have the Camaro sold should find out tomorrow wich will CERTAINLY help get me close to having the rest of the funds.

Thanks for asking, I am glad that someone else is still interested.

Cue-Ball
01-23-2006, 12:10 PM
Hey there,

Just wanted to let you all know that I am still working on this thing, and it seems to be getting really close now.

The 8.8 is all painted and ready to go in.

http://www.fototime.com/{BBE47032-EFD6-446B-9202-DD4347CAE2FF}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{6C72FD6B-BD79-4241-9E24-23878BDB1A54}/picture.JPG



http://www.fototime.com/{CE08AAFB-2528-4C93-A4F2-9F5F98525BBC}/picture.JPG


http://www.fototime.com/{29E06CC4-80FB-496B-A864-0FFB33A8B762}/picture.JPG

ogdak
01-23-2006, 01:28 PM
nice and shiny

Cue-Ball
01-23-2006, 01:35 PM
Yup, I used POR-15 so it should last pretty good.

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
01-23-2006, 02:34 PM
looking good Dirk, not too much longer before we see this thing get put together. :D

Cue-Ball
01-23-2006, 03:27 PM
Yea it is getting close now.

Things left:
Pick up DOM tubing for steering
Pick up HP30 from shop putting in gears

I think that is about it before things can start getting bolted up, once it is at ride height I will need to measure for driveshaft work and limit straps.

I need to pick up another 8.8 u-joint flange also, but I think the guy who is doing my gears has one I can pick up.

Once Matt hears back from Tom Woods, I may pick up his driveshafts, if not I will have some made up locally. But will have to wait until the thing is at ride height.

Cue-Ball
03-01-2006, 05:43 PM
Okay my accountant just finished my taxes this morning and has filed electronically, so the money will him my account on March 10th.

Best part is that I am getting more than enough to finish the Jeep and the wife has agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:best: :smt038 :love: :smt041 :supz: :smt057 :driving: :smt109 :smt023

So I will be at GSW and will be driving out!!!!!!!!!

EMTimZJ
03-01-2006, 07:49 PM
Okay my accountant just finished my taxes this morning and has filed electronically, so the money will him my account on March 10th.

Best part is that I am getting more than enough to finish the Jeep and the wife has agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:best: :smt038 :love: :smt041 :supz: :smt057 :driving: :smt109 :smt023

So I will be at GSW and will be driving out!!!!!!!!!

That is great news:smt023 Look forward to meeting you and the rest of these crazies!


-Tim

Cue-Ball
03-01-2006, 07:52 PM
You got it this is FANTASTIC news, I knew I was going to get some of the tax money to use, but did not know I was going to get to use that much.

I think the fact I caved in at home and let the wife get a dog last week helped, and it is my b'day on the 12th so it is rolled up in that also.

My wife did ask if I was going to break anything at GSW, I said "that's not the plan" hahaha.

I beter not break anything I can't afford to!!!

Cue-Ball
03-03-2006, 04:35 AM
Well more bad news, the damn tranny is still kicking my ass.

I had it over at the shop again this week and picked it up today where my buddy told me it was good to go. Well I drive back to the office, park it for about an hour, then when I am walking out to go home I see a puddle of ATF on the ground.

I tell you this thing is really a bitch!!!

So anyway the guys that have been working on it lately are fellow Jeep guys at their shop and we did some horse trading for the work, and I know he is just as frustrated about it as I am, well not as much as me but you know. So he is basically done, he told me if it did leak still that it MUST be the case.

So tomorow I am calling a tranny shop where another buddy just had a 42/44RE Hybrid built 2 weeks ago and will be talking pricing with them.

Bottom line means I will be broke after a new tranny so the LA's and axles will most likely NOT be in for GSW.

So I think what I will do it trim the hell out of my fenders and TR bumpers so that the 32's on my BB don't destroy the body and will still head out to GSW, I just need to meet all you guys. I will just take it easy while I am there.

Well that is the plan today, will update after I get some info from the tranny shop.

Dirk

ogdak
03-03-2006, 05:40 AM
That really suck's

OverkillZJ
03-03-2006, 10:14 AM
Fix it, we need to go wheeling at GSW!

Cue-Ball
03-03-2006, 11:04 AM
Well the plan is to fix the tranny and then bring it out to GSW, and wheel it with the BB and 32's and just take it easy.

Cue-Ball
03-08-2006, 11:47 AM
Okay here's the latest:

Placed the order for the custom built trans. It will be a 42/46RE hybrid. They are starting with a 46RE out of a 5.9 Dodge and taking all the internal stuff and putting in into a 42RE housing. They are installing Red Eagle clutches, complete shift kit, Kevlar bands, and a bunch of other crap that I had no idea what they are. They are also having a completly custom billet torque converter built, stock stall speed but with bigger clutches or something so it locks up faster and with more pressure. The 46RE has a 5 pinion gear set along with 5 planetary gears, so it is hardcore beef.

When I go down for the install in a week or two I will take the camera and get some pix of the 42RE parts compared to the 46RE parts, mine will be built already but they have a warehouse full of parts and pieces so I can get some good pix.

So stay tuned, more to follow.

I dig AU
03-10-2006, 02:24 AM
Dirk,

You are going to like that tranny. :D Mine gets a check up, new deep pan (like yours), and refilled with Amsoil on Monday. I asked about getting some pics then. Todd said he'd see what he could scare up. :smt117

Jerry

Cue-Ball
03-11-2006, 01:05 AM
Dirk,

You are going to like that tranny. :D Mine gets a check up, new deep pan (like yours), and refilled with Amsoil on Monday. I asked about getting some pics then. Todd said he'd see what he could scare up. :smt117

Jerry

I better like it Jerry or I'm coming after you. :D

I actually don't have that deep pan anymore, I sold that a while back, I do have a deep pan but it is a steel pan like the stocker just deep.

If you could get some pix that would be great, just email them to me dirkw@ccgnapa.com

Thanks.

I dig AU
03-11-2006, 01:41 AM
I better like it Jerry or I'm coming after you. :D

Ya gotta catch me first. Stroker is coming together! :D Checking ring end gaps now. Crank is in, but have some minor issues getting the damper on the crank. Nothing some 320 grit can't fix. :eek: Guess I should start my own thread for this stuff!

Jerry

Cue-Ball
03-11-2006, 04:12 AM
Yea you need to start a stroker thread.

Cue-Ball
03-15-2006, 04:35 AM
Okay, spoke to the tranny shop and they should have my 42/46 Hybrid trans done on Friday, they are just waiting on the custom built torque converter.

So I will try to break off work one day next week to get it swapped in.

I might also be picking up a stroker engine in the next week or two, yea boy!!!!!!!!!!

If I do the stroker right now I will have to hold off a few more months on the LA and axle swaps (will need to keep the wife happy by cutting the spending for a little while, I am sure you all can relate).

I will keep you posted, I am about 99% sure I am going to buy the stroker, just need to check a few more details.

87XJ
03-15-2006, 10:48 AM
I am about 99% sure I am going to buy the stroker, just need to check a few more details.
Dang man, I just gave him the money for it last night and the XJ is being torn down.













Just kidding man:D hope you can get it.

Cue-Ball
03-15-2006, 03:52 PM
Dang man, I just gave him the money for it last night and the XJ is being torn down.













Just kidding man:D hope you can get it.

Hahaha

Cue-Ball
03-21-2006, 08:47 PM
Okay just talked with the transmission shop and they are done with the tranny. I am scheduled for next Monday 3/27/06 to swap out my 42RE for the 42/46RE hybrid.

I will ofcourse have pix during the swap. I also have a few pix of some of the components but they are hard to tell how much bigger they are in the pix.

Cue-Ball
03-24-2006, 02:44 PM
Okay I just committed to getting the stroker engine :cheer2: :cheer2:

I have the install of the stroker scheduled for April 8th.

I am waiting to hear back on some pricing of a Banks header, other than that going to keep it stock for now and research a little more on intake manifolds and throttle body sizes.

I tell you i can't wait the trans goes in on Monday and the engine 2 weeks later. I am totally stoked!!!!!:smt041 :booya: :supz: :best: :smt016 :bling:

ogdak
03-24-2006, 07:05 PM
That's cool, So will you be able to sleep, over all this excitement.

Cue-Ball
03-24-2006, 08:49 PM
Gonna be tough!!!

MBATF
03-25-2006, 12:23 AM
So, which tranny shop did you ended up going to???



Okay just talked with the transmission shop and they are done with the tranny. I am scheduled for next Monday 3/27/06 to swap out my 42RE for the 42/46RE hybrid.

I will ofcourse have pix during the swap. I also have a few pix of some of the components but they are hard to tell how much bigger they are in the pix.

I dig AU
03-25-2006, 09:51 AM
I am totally stoked!!!!!:smt041 :booya: :supz: :best: :smt016 :bling:

Wow, stroked and stoked!!! :D

Good on ya Dirk.

Jerry

P.S. My 42/46 hybred got it's check up (and deep pan installed) this week. All Good! :smt035

Cue-Ball
03-25-2006, 10:10 AM
So, which tranny shop did you ended up going to???

It is a place in Escalon out near Modesto area.

It is called Escalon Transmission, Todd and Donnie are the owners. They are great to work with (atleast over the phone so far). I don't have there number handy but will post it up later.

Cue-Ball
03-25-2006, 10:21 AM
P.S. My 42/46 hybred got it's check up (and deep pan installed) this week. All Good! :smt035

Glad to hear it. I think you were actually there while I was talking to Donnie one day this week.

I dig AU
03-25-2006, 10:43 AM
Glad to hear it. I think you were actually there while I was talking to Donnie one day this week.

Yep. They asked if you wanted your vent done like mine. I said I bet you do, but you better ask! :)

These guys are really awesome! I asked Todd if they had anymore decals. There out, but when they get more, my rig will be sporting one of their badges. :smt023

I might add here, Donnie talked me out of turning up the pressures on mine (more) at this time. He said I was already running substantially higher pressures, and that it would steal pressure from the cooling circuits. He took it for a test drive before the service work and said, "Jerry, it's still pulling the front end up on the 1-2 shift. It really doesn't need anymore." So I relented. :rolleyes: Cooling on mine will be more important, since I will be towing a camp trailer. And he agreed that once my stroker and lift (tires) are in, we could still bump it up a little more "if it really needs it".

Again, these guys are awesome.

Jerry

Cue-Ball
03-25-2006, 01:34 PM
Yea I will adjust that as I see fit when i take it down in a few weeks.

The stroker will be in by the time I take it back to get checked and tuned, so we may bump up the pressure at that time. We will just have to see.

Cue-Ball
03-27-2006, 08:47 PM
Trans is in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Will pull some pix off the camera tonight and post them tomorrow fomr work (dial-up sucks)

OverkillZJ
03-27-2006, 08:54 PM
Everyones crap is coming together but mine, BLAH!

Cue-Ball
03-27-2006, 09:32 PM
Yea some of my stuff is ccoming together, just NOT the stuff I have been collecting parts on for like 2 years :rolleyes:

I dig AU
03-28-2006, 01:51 AM
Trans is in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Will pull some pix off the camera tonight and post them tomorrow fomr work (dial-up sucks)

Well, do ya like it? :D

Any ideas what was causing the leak on your original?

Cue-Ball
03-28-2006, 02:09 AM
Yes I like it. They said it does not shift as firm as yours in the 1-2 shift, remember that I have the 249 so the full time four wheel drive is working against me there.

When I go back in a few weeks (after the stroker) then we will tweak it to shift firmer, if needed.

No word on the original leak, spent most of the day swapping in the new one, no time to deal with the old one.

violatedppl
03-28-2006, 03:15 AM
nice to see somthing is getting done, what was the PITA factor on the tranny swap. and Ill try to make it on sat morn and see whats goin on.

Cue-Ball
03-28-2006, 11:02 AM
THere was nothing a PITA really on the swap it was pretty straight forward.

Yes I too am glad things are moving along.

Cue-Ball
03-28-2006, 12:52 PM
Okay, here are some pix of the trans install and parts.

Some of the pix are a little blurry and it is hard to tell how much bigger the V8 parts are in the pix, but they are considerably bigger.

The V8 stuff is on the left and the stock stuff on the right, the pix are in no particular order.
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The torque converter is an awesome piece it has a full billet cover and a larger clutch the factory one is a stamped steel piece with the mounting hole tabs welded on. This one uses a much bigger bearing and better clutches for better lock up.

Here are some more specs on it:
billet cover
hardened center pump hub and turbine spines
larger clutch for t/c lock up
clutch made of carbon fiber / kevlar
heavier springs for the clutch
fully rollerized bearings (no bushings)

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Stay tuned for the stroker install on April 8th!!!!!!

Cue-Ball
03-28-2006, 09:04 PM
Just ordered my header, I went with the new Edelbrock one, was a little cheaper than the Banks but honestly when I saw them at Truckfest they looked almost the same, except the Edelbrock has a heat treatment where the Banks doesn't.

James over at Jeepers & Creepers hooked me up.

ogdak
03-29-2006, 12:21 PM
That looks good.

Cue-Ball
04-10-2006, 11:44 AM
As to be expected with my Jeep the engine swap did not go completely as planned.

We got the stocker out but noticed an oil leak in the stroker so we dropped the pan and found a bad main bearing. Since no one carried the main bearings we have to order some up so we will hit it again next weekend.

Here are some pix of the progress.

violatedppl
04-10-2006, 01:17 PM
So the plan is for next sat? damn easter weekend, not sure if Ill be able to make it by for the swap. Im havin easter at my house this year so it mean the day before if the lets spend all day cleaning the fkn house. :(
how much was the header by the way?

OverkillZJ
04-10-2006, 02:44 PM
I'd say there's some serious projects going on with forum members lately! Sweet.

Cue-Ball
04-10-2006, 02:47 PM
Yea right now we don't have a set time, I need to get all the parts ordered, and with Easter it might totally screw the weekend.

Yea for me this is a MAJOR project.

Cue-Ball
04-10-2006, 02:49 PM
how much was the header by the way?

I got a hook up with the local Kragens manager (napajeep) here on the boards, might be able to pick one up for you.

violatedppl
04-10-2006, 05:34 PM
I got a hook up with the local Kragens manager (napajeep) here on the boards, might be able to pick one up for you.
thanks I just got my stuff from nick put on today and it sounds like a wet dream.

Cue-Ball
04-10-2006, 05:42 PM
thanks I just got my stuff from nick put on today and it sounds like a wet dream.

What did you get from Nick?

violatedppl
04-11-2006, 12:54 AM
just the usualy high flow cat, series 70 flow. it purs like a fkn kitten I love it.

Cue-Ball
04-11-2006, 01:12 AM
just the usualy high flow cat, series 70 flow. it purs like a fkn kitten I love it.

Very cool, can't wait to meet up one of these days.

Dirk

violatedppl
04-11-2006, 01:55 AM
Im thinking about going up to lake pillsbury(sp) in medicino on either the 30 or 31, theirs some decent trails up their and a really good place to shoot. it has to be one of my fav. places to go camping. and theirs a pet semitart I am still trying to get pics of. its still in the planning stages but if you want to come I drive right by napa on the way up thier....

ZachJ
04-11-2006, 02:21 AM
that is close to where i will be going to school next year maybe i will have to check it out sometime.

violatedppl
04-11-2006, 02:25 AM
where you going sanoma(sp) my freinds gf goes their and we are prob going to try and teach her out to shhot the right way. she has never handled a gun before and shes 19. what kind of country is this??

ZachJ
04-11-2006, 11:38 AM
Im going to chico not that close but close enough.