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Kraqa
11-19-2004, 03:22 PM
As you guys very well know the front fenders were not designed for 38" tires. and the battery tray sits right on the inner fender well. i needed to find a way to keep the battery in the stock location. but gain ALOT more room. the inner fender wells would touch my tire at half lock with the tire slightly stuffing so i had to do something about it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Kraqa/inner%20fenders/DSC01939.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Kraqa/inner%20fenders/DSC01940.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Kraqa/inner%20fenders/DSC01941.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Kraqa/inner%20fenders/DSC01942.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Kraqa/inner%20fenders/DSC01943.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Kraqa/inner%20fenders/DSC01944.jpg

the fender well's are only very think sheet metal and even tho this tray is only built out of 12 gauge the welse were suspect so i desided that it needed som additional support.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Kraqa/inner%20fenders/DSC01945.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Kraqa/inner%20fenders/DSC01946.jpg

notice the angular braket.

thia tray gained a whole pile of room and the battery remeins the same hight because i move the factory vacuum box else where. and just so you guys's know i isolated the battery from the tray with a 3/8" rubber pad.

Kraqa
11-19-2004, 03:25 PM
all in all i think i gained enough room (approx 4" at the loest point) and the tires have so much room in there now its like a hot dog in a hallway.

Alaska ZJ
11-20-2004, 09:19 PM
Did you kill that Chicken that Shit all over your Jeep?

Kraqa
11-20-2004, 09:49 PM
hmmm, no chicken, just old mud, went mudding and it rained the day after so it;s half washed of.

BigDaveZJ
11-20-2004, 11:42 PM
hmmm, no chicken, just old mud, went mudding and it rained the day after so it;s half washed of.

I do believe Brentt was referring to those welds!!! :shock: :shock:

Kraqa
11-21-2004, 01:36 PM
oh ya didn't get that. those welds are terrible. for one, extremely think material. and it was evem thinner because of the angle i cut it at. and a huge welder. miller 255.

plus the only sheild i had was a number 12 so i couldn't see shit. it was a bad combo. not trying to make excuses but.....well.........its a freekin battery tray. it'l be fine.

chadjans
11-21-2004, 09:06 PM
and a huge welder. miller 255.



It has settings don't it? :shock: Just razzin. And post padding...

Chad

Kraqa
11-21-2004, 09:53 PM
ya but it doesn't work very well at a lower setting. my 250 at home works well on all settings this in one of the macheins at work. the work ones never see the lower settings and arn't very stable at the lower settings. very choppy welds if you knwo what i mean.

Jim311
11-21-2004, 09:55 PM
Did you sneeze on it?





Booger weldz! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Kraqa/thefinger.gif




But better than I could do I bet :lol:

RufftyTuffty
11-24-2004, 11:01 AM
Great post dude....i have been umming and arrring over this mod for a few months now.

I manage to hack out the lower bracing section ok....but that drop in the fender is a PITA and i wasn't sure about how to solve it...NOW i know :D

My 36's are just rubbing a full stuff :wink:

Have you moved your axle forward yet?

~Mike

Kraqa
11-24-2004, 03:15 PM
ya i moved my axle forward. about 4" from stock and i'm going to move it further forward once i do the other side.

happy
11-25-2004, 01:16 AM
i just took a few chunks out of my tire tonight from that exact point..i think i need to put my bump stops in now...

CS84
11-30-2004, 03:55 PM
anyone know of a write-up that deals with moving the front axle forward? Im wanting to do it, but I need a general idea of what its going to take, and how im going to do it.

Alaska ZJ
11-30-2004, 07:39 PM
anyone know of a write-up that deals with moving the front axle forward? Im wanting to do it, but I need a general idea of what its going to take, and how im going to do it.

Easy. Make longer control arms. Make longer driveshaft.

Enjoy.

CS84
11-30-2004, 11:55 PM
anyone know of a write-up that deals with moving the front axle forward? Im wanting to do it, but I need a general idea of what its going to take, and how im going to do it.

Easy. Make longer control arms. Make longer driveshaft.

Enjoy.

you dont have to move the spring perch at all? wouldnt that create a an angle from the perch to the axle?

ATL ZJ
12-01-2004, 02:21 AM
anyone know of a write-up that deals with moving the front axle forward? Im wanting to do it, but I need a general idea of what its going to take, and how im going to do it.

Easy. Make longer control arms. Make longer driveshaft.

Enjoy.

you dont have to move the spring perch at all? wouldnt that create a an angle from the perch to the axle?

IIRC, the front upper spring perches are already angled slightly forward. And a little spring bow never hurt anybody.

RufftyTuffty
12-01-2004, 10:39 AM
IIRC, the front upper spring perches are already angled slightly forward. And a little spring bow never hurt anybody.

True...but whats a little?

Without moving the axle spring mounts back, my springs offered little to no resistance under full stuff and the tires would bind up in the fender wells.

Thats is of course if your using a kit that will flex THAT much.

~Mike

Kraqa
12-02-2004, 03:01 PM
anyone know of a write-up that deals with moving the front axle forward? Im wanting to do it, but I need a general idea of what its going to take, and how im going to do it.



i Think your in the wrong section.

ATL ZJ
12-02-2004, 03:38 PM
IIRC, the front upper spring perches are already angled slightly forward. And a little spring bow never hurt anybody.

True...but whats a little?

Without moving the axle spring mounts back, my springs offered little to no resistance under full stuff and the tires would bind up in the fender wells.

Thats is of course if your using a kit that will flex THAT much.

~Mike

Haha. I completely agree. And thought twice while I was posting that. There is a point when spring bow can be too much... My rear springs are bowed to about my acceptable limit ever since I extended the lowers to 36". I guess it's up to the owner as to how much bow he wants to allow.

msvance
12-03-2004, 10:55 AM
does anyone have a measurement that I can use to know how far forward my axle is now from stock? I no longer have the stock CA brackets so that won't work. anyone have this measurement w/ Clayton's sub-frame??? maybe from a common bolt hole??

Also, moving your front axle forward will have an impact on your steering angles which can cause loss of steering radius. the drag link is no longer in the same "plane" as stock so when the pitman arm swings it will have less impact, if that makes sense. I am not sure where the limitation is, but I was worried about pushing mine too far, but for me the limitation was my spring bow. for some tho, depending on lift, steering set-up, etc. steering may be the limitation......

MaineZJ
12-03-2004, 11:54 AM
measure your wheelbase, that'll give you "some" idea

Kraqa
12-03-2004, 01:54 PM
ya, i can try to take some measurment fom my sisters jeep the next time shes around. my axle is so far forward that my drag link go's back over my tie rod. i'm thinking abotu moving the drag link to the back side of the TRE

msvance
12-03-2004, 02:06 PM
Maine - the rear's pushed back to. what is the stock wheelbase??

Kraqa - the meas. would be appreciated. moving the dl to the back would be a good idea (if you have issues), but you would have to get a new tre and ream the opp. direction or weld in the hole then re-ream.....

Kraqa
12-03-2004, 02:08 PM
ya i know that. that wont be something i do ntil i get my HPD60 in there with high steer arms then i will have more room for my hydro ram. right now its too tight between the tie rod and the axle tubes. 1-5/8" takes up alot of room

nate
12-04-2004, 10:07 AM
Stock wheelbase is 106" if I remember correctly.