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nmzj
10-19-2004, 11:57 PM
Well, I finally got a few pics...

http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1002_113514AA.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1010_140710AA.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1016_151500AA.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1017_124032AA.jpg

The rest can be found at: http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/

Jason

LouisianaZJ
10-20-2004, 12:08 AM
nice, gotta keep the leather seats and woodgrain trim

OverkillZJ
10-20-2004, 12:09 AM
Very nice. Keep us updated.

BigDaveZJ
10-20-2004, 02:07 AM
Sweet!!

Nordic1
10-20-2004, 02:23 AM
For the sake of bordom:
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_0925_110510AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_0925_110521AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_0925_110527AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1002_113451AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1002_113501AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1002_113514AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1002_113527AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1002_113537AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1002_130247AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1010_140633AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/pages/2004_1010_140643AA.htm
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1010_140732AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1010_140745AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1010_140849AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1010_140906AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1010_152216AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1010_152235AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1010_152244AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1010_152302AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1012_193445AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1012_193458AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1016_131239AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1016_131258AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1016_151500AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1016_151516AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1017_124032AA.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1017_124044AA.jpg
I kill bandwidth for fun

MaineZJ
10-20-2004, 10:58 AM
Looking good
http://cc.vtc.edu/~mgauley/apillar.jpg
is that what the bottom of the stock A pillar looks like? just want to know before I hack off my rockers to fix the rust

nmzj
10-20-2004, 12:17 PM
Yep, it is inside of the rocker. I chose to cut the lower part off and weld it to the 4x4 rocker panel. You also have to watch out for the b-pilar bracing.

Jason

MaineZJ
10-20-2004, 12:26 PM
this is what I found...
http://cc.vtc.edu/~mgauley/rust1.jpg
http://cc.vtc.edu/~mgauley/rust2.jpg

trying to figure how I want to make new rockers and deal with the pillar

are you planning on beefing the "frame" rails?

Trancezj
10-20-2004, 01:30 PM
I like the frame rails. Only thing I'm not sure if I like is the height of the cage. Could be the pics too.

nmzj
10-20-2004, 07:49 PM
Maine: The frame rails are boxed with 1/4" wall tubing between the brackets for Kevins LA's. If you are keeping it full bodied, Alaska has a good write-up on his site.

Trance: The diagonal bar that runs from the a to c pilars is about 3" above my head when I'm in the seat( I'm 6'2". I'm actually worried that it may be to short. I do plan to install racing seats and lower them a little for more comfort.

Cody
10-20-2004, 10:21 PM
Nice! Looks like the first version of my cage with better foundation and welds.

Keep it up!!!

(I could have found more stuff to cut off though ;) )

Cody

nmzj
10-20-2004, 11:53 PM
Cody, I could also...The rear quarter panels are coming off, I just don't have the $$$ for air shocks or coilovers and it seems to be the easiest way to keep everything together for the moment. My next incarnation will be a tubed rear. I tapered the rear so it should be a very easy transition. :D

Kraqa
10-21-2004, 12:00 AM
what axles are you going to run?

Alaska ZJ
10-21-2004, 02:07 AM
Jason,

Are you going to relocate that gas tank? I would if I was you. It is one of the best things I ever did to the chuggy.

Looking good. Keep it up and keep us posted.

How does Sarah feel about this?

The old man and I were sitting around looking at those pictures just last week.....

nmzj
10-21-2004, 10:01 AM
Brentt,

Eventually the gas tank will be relocated. Sara is not to keen on that idea (fears storage loss), but she has taken everything else very well. She even helped me bend the tube.

Axles: Right now, I plan to keep the 30 and 8.8. When I go to 40's I'll go with a d60 and either 14bolt or 35 spline 9".

Alaska ZJ
10-21-2004, 11:19 AM
Good Plan on the axles.

Well you guys don't have any kids. Your not gonna take any cross country trips in that thing...

Loss of storage is always a big thing for us. That is one area that we are SUPER spoiled in.

But think about it this way. Even with the tank relocation, you still have more storage than a stock TJ or YJ.....They run the same drivetrain and have the same problems.....you can find a storage solution!

Cody
10-26-2004, 02:36 PM
If I don't sell my rig, I think I'm going to build a rack above my fuel cell to keep stuff in. I'm tired of having my cooler spill water on me every time it gets tippy to my side.

Cody

OverkillZJ
10-26-2004, 03:14 PM
If I don't sell my rig, I think I'm going to build a rack above my fuel cell to keep stuff in. I'm tired of having my cooler spill water on me every time it gets tippy to my side.

Cody

I actually thought about that when i saw your rig at GSW, gave me a few ideas if I chop the back too. I think it'd be sweet (So don't sell your rig. Unless it's to me.)

nmzj
10-30-2004, 09:27 PM
Here are a few updated pics:

http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1024_184459AA.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1030_171103AA.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1030_171140AA.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1030_171151AA.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1030_171227AA.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1030_171241AA.jpg

Any input? I plan to add another cross bar on the back, forming an X. What is everyone's feeling about a diagonal at the b-pillar?

Jason

Swamp boy
10-31-2004, 11:59 AM
IT wouldnt hurt to have two small diagnals at the b pillar from the seat brace down.. Especially if the seat bar sits in a bend...

Its coming together nicely... Cage looks very sturdy..

Two Questions...
Are you planning on putting any of the sheet metal back on?

Like front fenders mostly.. Or maybe doors??

and Second.. Are you gonna carry a spare??


Just wondering...


Carl

nmzj
10-31-2004, 12:12 PM
Yes, I'm planning to run the doors, but they will be gutted. I'm taking all the internals out to lighten the load. The front fenders are also going back on.

I'm putting a spare tire mount on the rear X.

MaineZJ
10-31-2004, 12:47 PM
Lookin good :mrgreen:

what size is that steel for your rockers?

chadjans
11-01-2004, 01:04 AM
You have a harness bar behind the front seats? If so your front door bars should meet at that node. You should have made the b pillar a hoop or at least make your roof x a star. Take a tube from the roof center node to the side b pillar. You going to run a dash bar? You NEED an x brace in the b pilar behind the front seats.

Jason, not sure if you have seen my cage albums, but you may find these of use:

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?show_all=1&id=4287199799&start=1

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?show_all=1&id=4287199799&start=1

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?show_all=1&id=4286931395&start=1

Chad

chadjans
11-01-2004, 01:16 AM
I see the dash bar but the windshield v is going to push against an unsupported span in the a pillar. Run a roof bar from the a pillar to the center of your roof x

Chad

JeepinHank
11-01-2004, 11:42 AM
I loved it until I saw this:

http://home.comcast.net/~jlavy/albums/Jeep_cage/images/2004_1030_171151AA.jpg

The whole cage looks awesome, but, for some reason I can't put my finger on, that view from behind just doesn't look right.

Yes, my comments are based purely on asthetics since I have know idea what constitutes a good cage.

Kraqa
11-01-2004, 11:51 AM
from a pure asthetics point of veiw i think its just that the cage looks alittle slim for how wide the ZJ body is. fill in the other x in the back. maybe a V winsheild support and maybe, just maybe put a X or V behind the front seats. other then that it looks good.

nmzj
11-01-2004, 02:07 PM
Chad, thanks for the suggestions. I have a question for you, do your rear seats fold all the way forward? I can't seem to get an X at the b pillar to work with the rear seats. I may go with a V instead to make them work.

As for the rear, I know it aint pretty, but the rear is going to get re-done. I'll probably do a temp rear bumper to clean it up a little. As soon as I tear off the quarter panels, I'll be able to convince the wife that something needs to be done/removed. :D

Kraqa
11-01-2004, 04:17 PM
what about bobbing the rear?

Alaska ZJ
11-01-2004, 04:58 PM
Jason,

You planning on kids in the near future? How about passengers in the rear?

If not take those damn heavy ass rear seats out. The Dog and the Jeep will love you for it.

Take the tail lights out now. Trust me, keep them in your garage if you want to, but wheeling a buggy....your gonna bust the piss out of them in 2 seconds.

A diagonal on the B pillar would be nice. I don't have on either and I feel I am ok but it would not hurt anything.

On that Diag go from the Pass side top to the Drivers side bottom. That way you won't bang your head on it like Chad's design. The passenger almost always gets out for sure technical stuff anyway (unless your my Dad and then you couldn't get him out with a pry bar).

Looks good man.

chadjans
11-01-2004, 10:47 PM
Yeah my back seats fold foward. Although I have to take the seat bottoms out. Not a big deal. And Brentt still thinks I hit my head on the x brace, but it has a bend in it to take it away from the driver's and passenger's head. I hit my head on the a pillar. Foam is your friend.

Chad

chadjans
11-03-2004, 05:11 AM
It looks odd to me because it appears that the b and c pillars do not lie outside of the rear seat line.

Chad