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BigDaveZJ
06-08-2010, 10:19 PM
What are you guys having good luck with for trailer tires? Two of the original tires on my car hauler are shot and need replacing. They're 205/75R15 or something close to that on 3500lb axles. A lot of the local guys have problems with Carlisles so I'd like to avoid them. Don't want to dump too much money into them either since we may be upgrading to a bigger trailer within a year anyways.

zj95
06-08-2010, 10:22 PM
try a maxxis or a duro. duro is made by maxxis and is identicle for much cheaper. its what we eun on all our trailers.

Pearce
06-08-2010, 10:57 PM
I've had great luck with my bias Duros. Thinking of trying the radias next. But thats another debate that can get started. I've also done fine with the tires Northern Tool sells, Load Star. But the Duro is nicer. Only odd thing about the Duro is they make them a bit taller in the same size as other companies. It's nice to hear the Duros are made by Maxxis. I have read all good things about the Maxxis tires.

rstrucks
06-08-2010, 11:09 PM
I had my first trailer tire blow-out earlier this year......it was a Carlisle. Next set or pair will not be.

zj95
06-08-2010, 11:13 PM
yeah crapisles and good year are the worst trailer tires out there

IndyZJ
06-08-2010, 11:18 PM
This is the only bad thing I've heard about with Maxxis:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=798972

ATL ZJ
06-09-2010, 12:37 AM
Carlisles suck. I have had good luck with Load Star. They are available at every Northern tool, already mounted on the rim for the same price as the tires alone cost installed on existing wheels... So I just buy new combos and save a few hours of my life instead of sitting in a tire store waiting room. I've bought WAY too many trailer tires over the past 4 years.

BigDaveZJ
06-09-2010, 12:44 AM
I really wish we had a Northern Tool around here . . .

goodolboy71
06-11-2010, 10:56 PM
I am running on my second set of taskmasters, they look identical to Kenda Loadstars( Northern Tools) and so far so good. I pull my trailer 2-4 times a week for the past few years, usually a few hundred miles each time. Carlisle sucks, I have a buddy who runs Tredits and has good luck with them and the Goodyear marathons. I pay around $330 shipped for a set of 4 205's mounted on new steel wheels from a place in Kentucky if you want their number

LouisianaZJ
06-12-2010, 12:00 PM
maxxis

CrawlerReady
06-12-2010, 04:05 PM
I assume you're running a Load Range C on your trailer currently since they're 3500# axles. I'd recommend D Range tires. Fixed the problem we were having on my parents car hauler.

goodolboy71
06-13-2010, 12:15 AM
I assume you're running a Load Range C on your trailer currently since they're 3500# axles. I'd recommend D Range tires. Fixed the problem we were having on my parents car hauler.

I looked from some for our trailer but all i ran across were the carlisle's and there is no way I was going back to those. Where did you find yours and how much?

LouisianaZJ
06-13-2010, 12:25 AM
i ran one load range higher thant the axles on my maxxis

Sudz
06-13-2010, 07:35 AM
I looked from some for our trailer but all i ran across were the carlisle's and there is no way I was going back to those. Where did you find yours and how much?

Bias - http://www.easternmarine.com/Trailer-Tires-Only-BIAS-PLY/

Radial - http://www.easternmarine.com/Trailer-Tires-Only-RADIAL/

http://www.easternmarine.com/em_store/trailertires/

Eastern is a little over an hour from me. Delaware is tax free so I could pick 'em up and save shipping..

goodolboy71
06-13-2010, 11:11 AM
Bias - http://www.easternmarine.com/Trailer-Tires-Only-BIAS-PLY/

Radial - http://www.easternmarine.com/Trailer-Tires-Only-RADIAL/

http://www.easternmarine.com/em_store/trailertires/

Eastern is a little over an hour from me. Delaware is tax free so I could pick 'em up and save shipping..

Thats the place we have looked at before but online all I see are 205 D's by carlisle.

LouisianaZJ
06-13-2010, 12:03 PM
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/tires/maxxis/home.do

goodolboy71
06-13-2010, 01:45 PM
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/tires/maxxis/home.do

when I follow that all i see are 205's in the C's

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/tires/maxxis/product/byName.do?tmn=M8008+ST+Radial+BS&typ=TrailerI


I see these on maxxis website
https://www.shopmaxxis.com/b2c/

for that price I could have damn near 2 new tire and wheel combo's mounted ready to go. My trailer doesn't wear the tires weird, I just wear them out. What do they cost around yalls area?


I see 4x4 groupbuy has some denman 8 ply for 66 each.

AgitatedPancake
06-13-2010, 02:01 PM
I just read that whole PBB thread on maxxis...FUCK them. That was the worst handling of any sort of customer service I've ever seen. It took maxxis 7 MONTHS to get this guy his warranty replacement trailer tire after putting the guy through hell, and the most massive run around I've ever seen.

From what I read in that thread, that little fuckup cost maxxis $5-10k in tires other people WONT be buying, and counting

I always liked the Treps and Creepy Crawlers, now I kinda have a bad taste in my mouth.

IndyZJ
06-13-2010, 02:29 PM
I just read that whole PBB thread on maxxis...FUCK them. That was the worst handling of any sort of customer service I've ever seen. It took maxxis 7 MONTHS to get this guy his warranty replacement trailer tire after putting the guy through hell, and the most massive run around I've ever seen.

From what I read in that thread, that little fuckup cost maxxis $5-10k in tires other people WONT be buying, and counting

I always liked the Treps and Creepy Crawlers, now I kinda have a bad taste in my mouth.

I thought it would be worth adding that link so anyone considering Maxxis would know what they were up against when it comes to warrantying a tire. They seem to make good stuff most of the time, but if you get a defect, you're SOL. I will not be buying anything from them.

Sudz
06-13-2010, 05:58 PM
Thats the place we have looked at before but online all I see are 205 D's by carlisle.
can you step up to a 225?

http://www.easternmarine.com/LOADSTAR-ST225/75D-15-Trailer-Tire-LR-D/

CrawlerReady
06-13-2010, 06:45 PM
I looked from some for our trailer but all i ran across were the carlisle's and there is no way I was going back to those. Where did you find yours and how much?

We are running a 225 tire now. Had a 205 on there. I picked mine up from Henderson Trailer Supply here in SLC.

goodolboy71
06-13-2010, 10:27 PM
can you step up to a 225?

http://www.easternmarine.com/LOADSTAR-ST225/75D-15-Trailer-Tire-LR-D/


We are running a 225 tire now. Had a 205 on there. I picked mine up from Henderson Trailer Supply here in SLC.


I can't, , we tried test fitting some a few years ago and we just don't have the room and don't want to risk it on the 20ft trailer due having the flip fenders. They have to flip due to hauling alot of low cars and we can't get the doors open with regular fenders, and we can't leave them off for fear of a rock getting thrown up against one.

SirFuego
06-28-2010, 10:24 AM
I had my first trailer tire blow-out earlier this year......it was a Carlisle. Next set or pair will not be.

What was the load range of the tires?

I'm going to be getting tires soon. I had a blowout earlier this year and am paranoid of another blowout. I'm likely going with 225/75/15 Load Range D -- which are rated at 2500+/tire. My buddy has had no problems with his bias ply Carlisles.

SB406
06-28-2010, 10:48 AM
Unfortunaely, I run 14.5's on my trailer. Now-a-days that corners me into Chinese made tires no matter what. Most trailer tires (even 15" rims) are Chinese made now. If I had the option for 15" rim, I'd be running load range E radial truck tires. Life expectancy on a Chinese trailer tire is 3 years before it dry rots, wears out, or self destructs.

This tire had 4 years and 10-12K miles on it. It let go on my way to Big Dogs in June. By the time I got home, I had 3 go bad. All of them were put on new at the same time. I guess the life expectancy was up. Overall, they were decent tires and wore well. I'm trying Hercules this time (Made by Cooper). BTW, this tire (and the new ones I just put on) is Load range F.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q159/sb406/th_TireFAIL.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/albums/q159/sb406/?action=view&current=TireFAIL.jpg)

ATL ZJ
06-28-2010, 10:53 AM
wow SB406, that is a serious tire tumor...

chadjans
06-29-2010, 04:11 AM
Make sure the load range is the same on all four tires and your spares! So needless to say upgrading load ranges might mean you will be buying more than four tires. Like any other tire they get expensive.

rstrucks
06-30-2010, 09:53 PM
What was the load range of the tires?

I'm going to be getting tires soon. I had a blowout earlier this year and am paranoid of another blowout. I'm likely going with 225/75/15 Load Range D -- which are rated at 2500+/tire. My buddy has had no problems with his bias ply Carlisles.

Found my problem - they are load range C. Rated at about 1800 lbs each there is no fudge room with my ZJ on the trailer. I thought for sure they were Ds. I'm pretty sure my trailer used to haveD range tires on it. Then some a-hole tried to steal it flat spotting two tires. Put those two tires on it, one year later I replaced the other two, each time telling them to match them up with the others. Guess I should have checked.

I may try to sell these tires and wheels and step up to a D range tire. Having 10k lbs of tire load capacity is better than 7200lbs.

ATL ZJ
06-30-2010, 09:57 PM
I may try to sell these tires and wheels and step up to a D range tire. Having 10k lbs of load capacity is better than 7200lbs.

How much would you want for those tires?

rstrucks
06-30-2010, 10:09 PM
Hmmm. Let me see how much they cost me, how much tread is left on them and what new ones are going to run. They are two different styles. One pair of USA Trail bias and one pair of Radial Trails. Looks like I may be selling these as two pairs instead of a set.

SirFuego
06-30-2010, 10:12 PM
The ones I picked up were Akuret. I guess they are better known for Ag Tires, but the reputable tire shop recommended them. They said they didn't have any complaints about them. 225/75/15 Load Range D bias. 2500lb/tire capacity.

I got the trailer with regular SUV tires rated for 2k a tire -- the spare I swapped on after the blowout was only rated for 1800. So I have a better peace of mind going "overkill" for tires.

ATL ZJ
06-30-2010, 10:28 PM
Hmmm. Let me see how much they cost me, how much tread is left on them and what new ones are going to run. They are two different styles. One pair of USA Trail bias and one pair of Radial Trails. Looks like I may be selling these as two pairs instead of a set.

OK.

Got my new trailer axles on order but I'm gonna need two more trailer tires before it's all said and done. I'd be more interested in the bias plys...

SirFuego
06-30-2010, 10:39 PM
For those running load range D bias ply tires -- what pressure are you running them at?

Mine are rated at something like 65 max psi, but I heard they wear out in the center if you run them that high. I have mine set to 50 right now and it felt good on the ride home with the trailer loaded, but wasn't sure if I should go higher...

rstrucks
07-01-2010, 10:47 AM
Well, the 205/75/15 D range tires are rated at 21XX lbs, the C ranges are 18XX lbs and the 225/75/15 D range tires are 25XX lbs. The 225s on wheels are considerably higher in cost than the 205s (D) on wheels but the load increase in the C and D 205s isn't that great. So I'm not sure it's worth the time and money to upgrade to 205 Ds.

Cam, if I decide to upgrade I assume you want the mounted tire/wheel combo? The tread is easily 90% on all four.

I wish my ZJ was lighter.

Pearce
07-01-2010, 11:16 AM
For those running load range D bias ply tires -- what pressure are you running them at?

Mine are rated at something like 65 max psi, but I heard they wear out in the center if you run them that high. I have mine set to 50 right now and it felt good on the ride home with the trailer loaded, but wasn't sure if I should go higher...


Always run them at MAX PSI. Thats how a trailer tire is intended to be run. If it is under inflated the tire life will be less and could build up more heat and cause a blow out. Also in 6 years of towing my trailer including several times out west, I've never had a tire on long enough to wear out a tread. Even a 4 year old tire. After 4 years you should replace them anyway. You are just asking for a blow out. Which funny enough just happened while towing my Dad's boat trailer on a trip with his 4 year old boat trailer tires. Two on one trip, radials. Granted they are always loaded holding a boat but still. Trailer tires not only have a tread life, they have an "in use" life.

SirFuego
07-01-2010, 11:45 AM
Thanks, Pearce. I did some reading on that last night and that is consistent with what you said. I also did some thinking about how many miles I put on the trailer yearly and figured that the tread would outlast the "life" of the tires anyways. I'll be sure to max them out before my next trip in a couple weeks.

SirFuego
07-01-2010, 11:48 AM
Well, the 205/75/15 D range tires are rated at 21XX lbs, the C ranges are 18XX lbs and the 225/75/15 D range tires are 25XX lbs. The 225s on wheels are considerably higher in cost than the 205s (D) on wheels but the load increase in the C and D 205s isn't that great. So I'm not sure it's worth the time and money to upgrade to 205 Ds.

Cam, if I decide to upgrade I assume you want the mounted tire/wheel combo? The tread is easily 90% on all four.

I wish my ZJ was lighter.

Will 225s fit your trailer? I have a spare you can throw on for a test fit at GSSE if you aren't going to do anything with your tires until then. Although finding a 225 for that purpose should be easy anyways.

SirFuego
07-12-2010, 01:16 PM
So as I said before, my trailer had 225/75/15 truck tires rated for about 2000lbs apiece. Even at max psi (40-45ish -- can't remember off hand), I would notice them bulging a little bit with the robot loaded. They were at least three years old, so perhaps that was the reason for the blowout, but they did get somewhat hot after a couple hours of driving.

I aired my new bias play trailer tires up to about 65 psi before I left for my two hour trip down to Erie. When I arrived, the tires didn't seem nearly as hot as the SUV/truck tires and there is also zero noticeable bulge in the sidewall. I'm happy so far with them, but only time will tell. I'll keep everyone updated. GSSE is going to be a long tow -- probably the longest the trailer will see for a while.