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BigDaveZJ
07-14-2008, 01:28 AM
Had a good sized group out there, think we had 12 rigs in a total. Quite a few ZJ's, some TJ's, and a YJ, and Vintage (and I'm not talking about Al). Made it through the trail relatively unscathed, some new sheet metal work on a couple rigs and I need a new side view mirror now, but nothing too bad.

We just got home a little bit ago, Stan (SCAMPER ZJ) ended up blowing something up on his truck just outside Fairplay. Looked to be turbo related, but we're not sure. He's getting truck, trailer, and Jeep towed home. Hopefully it's nothing major. I was hoping for something simple like one of the boots on the intercooler pipes coming off, but it's something more serious than that. He managed to lose a lot of oil too.

I'll get our pics up in the morning.

Matt
07-14-2008, 01:54 AM
Stan can't catch a break it seems.

Sounds like a fun trip.

BigDaveZJ
07-14-2008, 09:53 AM
On to our pics . . . .

Coming through the first little rock chute
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008002.jpg

http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008005.jpg

Getting flexy in the rock pile
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008011.jpg

http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008013.jpg

Pam clearing it no problem with the new lift
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008017.jpg

Joe coming through
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008021.jpg

Vintage!
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008027.jpg

Scott taking the high road
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008032.jpg

Stan coming through
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008040.jpg

Shaft and Rubi
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008041.jpg

I think 3 of us tried the left line on Whale Rock, and none of us made it up. My rear wheels kept slipping off to the left which would've been rather unenjoyable if I went too far. Stan and Justin tried it too if I remember right and we had to strap Justin off cuz he ended up too cockeyed on it to back down. When I backed down I got way too close to the rocks on the left and rearranged my front fender and destroyed my sideview mirror. Also got my front axle hung up on the ridge that makes up the left side of the rock and had to get strapped off. The obstacle doesn't really look like the bottoms getting dug out, but it's definitely harder to get up it than it was a few years ago.

http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008046.jpg

http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008052.jpg

Pam making the center line look easy
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008059.jpg

We ended up forgetting the camera in the Jeep after driving up the trail a bit to make room for everyone, so that's all the pics we have from Whale Rock.

Flex shot at the stairs
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008062.jpg

I spotted Pam a little too close to the tree
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008064.jpg

http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008065.jpg

BigDaveZJ
07-14-2008, 10:03 AM
Pam trying to flex it a little too much, seemed to be a common theme in this spot though
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008066.jpg

Joe threw up a real nice wheel stand, but I didn't have the camera ready in time
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008068.jpg

Vintage air!
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008074.jpg

You know you're jealous of that mad articulation
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008076.jpg

Scott flexin it up
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008080.jpg

Augie rockin the short arm flex
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008081.jpg

Justin's turn
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008083.jpg

Cristi and Stan both tried the left line on the stairs. I remember when the obstacle first opened making it up on 33's, that one's DEFINITELY a lot more dug out. Cristi on 37's and Stan on 35's both had to pull cable, but once they put some weight on the front it helped out a lot.

http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008085.jpg

http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008086.jpg

Coming up the chute
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008090.jpg

Pam made it look easy, she's really diggin the bigger lift
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008095.jpg

Scott
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008096.jpg

Cristi
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008098.jpg

Stan
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008099.jpg

Poser shot on the way out
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008101.jpg

Cody
07-14-2008, 11:28 AM
Nice. Cool trail. it's always nice to have a couple options on obstacles to keep the riff raff entertained.

JohnBoulderCO
07-14-2008, 02:32 PM
Nice pics! Stan, sorry to see that your truck had issues.

TwoDogs
07-14-2008, 03:22 PM
Dave!! had a great time!! OH BTW: jus signed up here. I'm a wheelin noooooooob! (yea right). Dude, vintage flex is da bomb!! Some of the stuff goin on had my bil freakin'. OCG is always a good time. Good to meet some new people as well.
If ya got pics of my rig in action. Ya can e-mail to jhsaunders7@gmail.com

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
07-14-2008, 05:07 PM
Pam's ZJ is looking great!

Justins is looking :gay:

:flipoff2:

FlamesFearMe
07-14-2008, 05:29 PM
Nice pics, nice rigs. Not to hijack, but does someone know who made the bumper that Stan is running? It looks like KOR.

EDIT: not only do I now know that it is a KOR bumper, I saw Stan's rig on the KOR website.

Z
07-14-2008, 05:53 PM
You know you're jealous of that mad articulation
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/wheelinpics/ocg07132008/ocg07132008076.jpg


Actually, I am jealous of that much articulation on a front axle!

JohnBoulderCO
07-14-2008, 06:24 PM
Good one Tom. :D

BigDaveZJ
07-14-2008, 07:37 PM
Got a text from Stan, turns out it was some o-rings on his turbo. So hopefully nothing else got damaged in all of it!

San Juan Grand
07-14-2008, 08:41 PM
Had a great time wheeling with you guy's again, OCG is always a good time. Maybe next time I'll have some of Pam's luck and not rub the t-case skid and muffler that many times.
Augie

cjchamp
07-14-2008, 10:29 PM
Great Time guys and gals! Vintage was pretty please to make another trip un-scathed

BigDaveZJ
07-14-2008, 10:30 PM
You get any of that video up?

And you gotta change your sig, halfie's gone!

cjchamp
07-14-2008, 10:32 PM
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d935b3127ccec4c946c3b24500000040O00AcM3Lhs2ZMm IPbz4I/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d935b3127ccec4c8138bd2f300000040O00AcM3Lhs2ZMm IPbz4I/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d935b3127ccec4c996cbb22500000040O00AcM3Lhs2ZMm IPbz4I/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d935b3127ccec4c90611b2b700000040O00AcM3Lhs2ZMm IPbz4I/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

YAHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d935b3127ccec4c85901536c00000040O00AcM3Lhs2ZMm IPbz4I/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d935b3127ccec4c95e4bb2c100000040O00AcM3Lhs2ZMm IPbz4I/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

cjchamp
07-14-2008, 10:36 PM
no vid yet...looking for a host...oh BTW here is a pic I forgot...nothing to do with anything but a good one none the less

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8da02b3127ccec3bb7a49444000000010O00AcM3Lhs2ZMm IPbz4I/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

BigDaveZJ
07-14-2008, 10:43 PM
YouTube not good enough???

jsteves
07-15-2008, 12:06 AM
Pam's ZJ is looking great!

Justins is looking :gay:

:flipoff2:

Alas...mine is all still just one jeep...:finga:

And I am dying to see the video of mine on whale rock!

Good time was had by all! Really hoping Stan's truck issues are an easy fix!!

SCAMPER ZJ
07-15-2008, 01:41 AM
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8da02b3127ccec3bb7a49444000000010O00AcM3Lhs2ZMm IPbz4I/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

That looks like Big Dave desperately and furiously tightening the bolt on his turbo intake! :D

Yeah, coming back from OCG my truck started stalling. It was subtle at first; I thought it was just turbo surge initially (something about Hwy 285 seems to really bring that out). However I realized it was something more ominous when I began to lose power on a straight flat stretch after passing the turnoff for 24. Over the course of about two minutes, I lost all turbo pressure. I got off to the side of the road and couldn’t get it to start again. Popped the hood and found oil all over the place!! So there I was half way between Johnson’s Village and Fairplay. . .7PM Sunday evening. I had good cell signal so I called Big Dave because he had stayed back in Johnson’s Village - he thought it might be the turbo injector tubes. They seemed intact when we checked though, so I pretty much figured I had done something much worse. Anyway, I was out of oil, and couldn’t figure out where the leak was coming from, so I called Farmer’s. A number of people stopped from the group as they came by to check on me (thanks guys, that really meant a lot). I sent my brother Chris back with Big Dave and Pam after we hung out for a while and I waited the last 20 minutes for the tow truck which finally arrived a little after 9PM. We loaded the truck on an F650 flatbed with a Cat engine and towed the ZJ/trailer without a trailer brake the 100 miles back to my house (going 20-30 up hills and 45-50 down) – with the trip back taking over 4 hours. Total bill, AFTER my towing insurance: $700 (OUCH)!!

Anyway, I was afraid the towing bill would be just the start (and I haven’t gotten the truck back yet, so I may not be out of the woods), but Rocky at Rockin S Performance in Ft Lupton thinks the engine is OK and the huge leak turned out to just be an o-ring (Big Dave’s second guess). PHEW!! I don’t need it back right away so he’s going to do a full oil change (he used the cheap stuff to diagnose the prob), put in a larger tranny cooler (I’ve been planning to have this done, I was running hot en route Moab and a little warm yesterday), and install a “wicked wheel” in the turbo (another item I’ve been meaning to do which hopefully will eliminate the surge issue – if not I’m going to have to get a larger turbo housing).

I will sort through pics later this week - I'm kind of slammed at work but I'm hoping to have some time Wednesday.

Other than the truck thing. . .I HAD A BLAST!! :D

jsteves
07-15-2008, 10:56 AM
Glad to hear it doesn't sound too serious!!

BigDaveZJ
07-15-2008, 11:01 AM
Anyway, I was afraid the towing bill would be just the start (and I haven’t gotten the truck back yet, so I may not be out of the woods), but Rocky at Rockin S Performance in Ft Lupton thinks the engine is OK and the huge leak turned out to just be an o-ring (Big Dave’s second guess). PHEW!! I don’t need it back right away so he’s going to do a full oil change (he used the cheap stuff to diagnose the prob), put in a larger tranny cooler (I’ve been planning to have this done, I was running hot en route Moab and a little warm yesterday), and install a “wicked wheel” in the turbo (another item I’ve been meaning to do which hopefully will eliminate the surge issue – if not I’m going to have to get a larger turbo housing).

I will sort through pics later this week - I'm kind of slammed at work but I'm hoping to have some time Wednesday.

Other than the truck thing. . .I HAD A BLAST!! :D

Awesome, I was thinking last night after I got your text about the pedestal o-rings how you should have Rocky put that wheel in while it's all torn down. I knew Rocky would get ya taken care of. You'll have to let me know how that tranny cooler works out, which one did you go with?

zjRyan
07-15-2008, 05:15 PM
I saw you all outside of Fairplay as you were headed down on Sunday morning, but I doubt you noticed me as I was in our stock mall crawler WK!

Dave, you weren't kidding when you mistook my ZJ as Pam's. They are REALLY similar! Right down to the CB mount and stock wheels.

http://www.jeepforum.com/gallery/data/4/medium/IMG_07621.jpg

Is she running RE 3.5" springs?

BigDaveZJ
07-15-2008, 05:40 PM
Dave, you weren't kidding when you mistook my ZJ as Pam's. They are REALLY similar! Right down to the CB mount and stock wheels.

Only difference I can tell looking at 'em is the tires, trimmed bumper, and the Hella' up front!




Is she running RE 3.5" springs?

Yup!

wannabe_offroad
07-15-2008, 09:26 PM
no vid yet...looking for a host...oh BTW here is a pic I forgot...nothing to do with anything but a good one none the less

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8da02b3127ccec3bb7a49444000000010O00AcM3Lhs2ZMm IPbz4I/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

Alright, no one else has said it yet.....is Pam not putting out anymore, Dave???? You've got to mount the truck now???

Glad you guys had a good time. It looks like a sweet trail. Some CO wheelin is definitely on my shortlist.

Rough luck Stan. Ya know, the whole reason to have a tow rig is so that if you break your rig while wheelin, you've got something to tow it back with....it ends up a little counterproductive in the wallet though when the tow rig gives out on ya. Now I know you've got some great pics!!! Don't hold out too long!!!

Putz

fpkites
07-15-2008, 09:43 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

cjchamp
07-15-2008, 11:23 PM
Imsorry Dave..........HERE COMES THE BAN STICK!

dads5.9
07-15-2008, 11:48 PM
Here are a few more pics from the trip. It was great to see everyone.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii133/verlans/Chinamans%20Gulch%20July%2008/P7140104-1.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii133/verlans/Chinamans%20Gulch%20July%2008/P7140092-1.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii133/verlans/Chinamans%20Gulch%20July%2008/P7140084-1.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii133/verlans/Chinamans%20Gulch%20July%2008/P7140079-1.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii133/verlans/Chinamans%20Gulch%20July%2008/P7140131-1.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii133/verlans/Chinamans%20Gulch%20July%2008/P7140126-1.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii133/verlans/Chinamans%20Gulch%20July%2008/P7140121-1.jpg





http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii133/verlans/Chinamans%20Gulch%20July%2008/P7140098-1.jpg

And here is the link to the rest...
http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii133/verlans/Chinamans%20Gulch%20July%2008/

SCAMPER ZJ
07-16-2008, 12:20 AM
Here are a few of my favorites:

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010078small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010089small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010107small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010134small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010142small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010161small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010166small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010171small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010181small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010182small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010188small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010196small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010220small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010237small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010238small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010276small.jpg

http://www.jeepsite.net/OCG 2008/P1010287small.jpg

Colorado 5.9
07-22-2008, 05:31 AM
It's about time I posted mine. A few vids too.http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Colorado59/OCG%20July%2013%202008/?start=all

From the the top of Crow Hill on I had a very loud howl on any kind of coast. I nursed it back by going as slow as I could so I could keep a bit of gas on all the time. It sounded like the worst pinion wine you've ever heard & I figured that that's probly what it was but it was so loud that I thought maybe it could be the t-case or even tranny. It really sounded like it was coming from the center instead of the back. Corey told me the frst thing I should check was the pinion nut & sure enough that's what it was.

I think I know why it came loose. The rear yoke was changed last year to a differant size to accommidate a normal sized u-joint & I bet a "new" nut was not used or even loctite. I could be wrong though. Bahaing the jeep while in low every chance I get probably is what caused it to come loose a lot sooner than it might have though..

A "new" nut, loctite & Corey & his air gun & everything seems OK now. However the locker sounds like it was just put in again.

MotoX5874
07-23-2008, 10:49 AM
It's about time I posted mine. A few vids too.http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Colorado59/OCG%20July%2013%202008/?start=all

From the the top of Crow Hill on I had a very loud howl on any kind of coast. I nursed it back by going as slow as I could so I could keep a bit of gas on all the time. It sounded like the worst pinion wine you've ever heard & I figured that that's probly what it was but it was so loud that I thought maybe it could be the t-case or even tranny. It really sounded like it was coming from the center instead of the back. Corey told me the frst thing I should check was the pinion nut & sure enough that's what it was.

I think I know why it came loose. The rear yoke was changed last year to a differant size to accommidate a normal sized u-joint & I bet a "new" nut was not used or even loctite. I could be wrong though. Bahaing the jeep while in low every chance I get probably is what caused it to come loose a lot sooner than it might have though..

A "new" nut, loctite & Corey & his air gun & everything seems OK now. However the locker sounds like it was just put in again.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Colorado59/OCG%20July%2013%202008/DSC02602.jpg
:eek: sweet hood, where'd ya get it?

Colorado 5.9
07-24-2008, 04:51 AM
I got it on a group buy about 4 years ago on Jeepforum. Hambeck Customs made it. The buss. is mow Malibu Designs in Cali. It's carbon fiber & was only $650 at the time of the GB. They are now over $1500 in CF. FG is probably around $800. However if you like it that much you can get a copy in FG on ebay for around $300 + shipping. I think it was CWM on here got one & he was pleased with it. It had to be prepped before it was painted.