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5.9 ANDY
02-03-2008, 09:24 PM
the trailer turned out well, we towed it down the street with mu buddys YJ. it tracked realy well.

later once my jeep is back on its feet ill post some pics of the 2 hooked up.

if ya got any questions..... just ask.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer016.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer015.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer014.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer013.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer012.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer011.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer010.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer009.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer008.jpg

AprilzWarrior
02-04-2008, 01:39 AM
Looks heavy to me... what are you going to be hauling ?

5.9 ANDY
02-04-2008, 01:53 AM
Looks heavy to me... what are you going to be hauling ?

it is actualy realy heavy... we mostly gona hall stuff like coolers, tools, gassoline, spare parts. mabe my friends quad. once we get a real trailer axle we will loose alot of weight.

5.9 ANDY
02-04-2008, 11:41 PM
here are some pics of the trailer with the new sides, wich is just woven poly rope.

and its got mud flaps on it now.


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer024.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer023.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer022.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer020.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer019.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj143/ANDY_MASON/trailer.jpg

AgitatedPancake
02-05-2008, 03:16 AM
I think you should swap that rear axle out for another rear axle - whatever your runnig (or giong to be running) in the ZJ, so you always have spares =P Also, with a heavy axle the trailer will never tip over haha.

Jsk8r1
02-05-2008, 04:20 AM
looks a little ghetto but at least its functional, are those c-clamps holding on the mud flaps?

5.9 ANDY
02-05-2008, 10:13 AM
looks a little ghetto but at least its functional, are those c-clamps holding on the mud flaps?
yea, right now its prety high up there on the ghetto scale....

and yea, there are C-clamps holding on the mud flaps.... im trying to decide if i like these flaps, of if ill go with different ones.

i think ill just go with these, i like the design they have.

5.9 ANDY
02-05-2008, 10:19 AM
I think you should swap that rear axle out for another rear axle - whatever your runnig (or giong to be running) in the ZJ, so you always have spares =P Also, with a heavy axle the trailer will never tip over haha.


im gona get a real trailer axle for it in the future... as for it tipping... wow, for this thing to tip over, it would have to leaning WAY over to actualy go.....

CurtP
02-05-2008, 11:25 AM
Booty-fabulous.

LouisianaZJ
02-05-2008, 12:28 PM
SOA it

You should also cap off those angles on the side, that is a major accident waiting to happen, seriously.

Construction workers have been impaled falling over rebar sticking up just like that. They even make them cap them off from the time the rebar is set to the time right before the pour.
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/construction/falls/protruding_rebars.html

5.9 ANDY
02-05-2008, 12:47 PM
SOA it
it is a spring over axle set up.




You should also cap off those angles on the side, that is a major accident waiting to happen, seriously.

Construction workers have been impaled falling over rebar sticking up just like that. They even make them cap them off from the time the rebar is set to the time right before the pour.
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/construction/falls/protruding_rebars.html

I will be capping the posts of with some of those gurads until i get my 1" square tubeing to weld around the top... that way it covers the tops and it provides my an additional tie down rail along the top.

i also need to get the steel for the drop gate and put that together.

5.9 ANDY
02-05-2008, 12:49 PM
BTW... i do appreciate alll the help and comments, they are helping out with my planing of how i want this puppy to turn out.

LouisianaZJ
02-05-2008, 01:01 PM
:doh: I meant to say SUA

5.9 ANDY
02-05-2008, 01:05 PM
I meant SUA

ooo, i was wondering why you said SOA, it is clearly a SOA. so now my question is, why do SUA, then there would be leaf springs, and U-bolts, and u bolt plates scraping on stuff.

SUA has its advantages, but im not shure its advantages apply best to a mostly off-road trailer.

Cody
02-05-2008, 04:51 PM
I think a trailer axle will be a good swap, and I'm trying to wrap my head around the SOA vs. SUA idea. I kind of just assumed I'd do SOA but SUA does have less wrap and the thing will already have plenty of clearance I think.

Looks like a good first project. I would may mess with this a little, then sell it and build it the way you want after all of your trial and errors are considered. Make it lighter, adjust dimensions, different suspension/drivetrain.

5.9 ANDY
02-05-2008, 05:09 PM
i had an idea today as i was playing solitare in english class today..... for a trailer axle, what if i took the hub asseblies of a free floating rear end like a 9", then cut off the acle shafts... make a plate with bolt holes for the hub assembly to bolt to, and then weld these plates to a piece of steel box...

what do yow think of that idea?

nierace
02-05-2008, 05:34 PM
SOA would get the COG down, I would drop it down a little, maybe different leafs would be more ideal.

God its ugly :rofl:

:D

MUDDTRACKS
02-05-2008, 05:37 PM
just go bye a trailer axle there really cheap and they have some real nice ones for a little more money
http://www.etrailerpart.com/2ktrailerAxle.htm
http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/p-2318-2000-lb-torsion-half-axles.aspx

plus then you know it will hold up to the abuse you will put it thru.

by the way that is one ugly sum bitch

5.9 ANDY
02-05-2008, 05:43 PM
SOA would get the COG down, I would drop it down a little, maybe different leafs would be more ideal.

God its ugly :rofl:

:D

i am thinking of taking a leaf or 2 out, i proably will... i just need to give it some time and see how it dose with its current setup.

and yea... i know, it is ugly... i am proably gona paint it next weekend.... eh, mabe ill do it tomorrow since i dont have school.

Cody
02-05-2008, 07:37 PM
why cut down a 9" housing when you can buy a brand new housing designed perfectly for what you are doing for 100 bucks or less?

5.9 ANDY
02-05-2008, 07:48 PM
why cut down a 9" housing when you can buy a brand new housing designed perfectly for what you are doing for 100 bucks or less?


im just thinking of various things i can do... ill proable just end up buying a real trailer axle. but for the next few months... im staying with the 8.8.

seans
02-05-2008, 09:28 PM
Now here's a trailer that can carry up to 450 lbs of gear from the factory (of course I'm sure some of our fellow mechanics can greatly increase its capacity). The thing even folds up when storage is limited back home! It's more than half the price of the "bells and whistles" trailer options.

http://www.sportsrig.com/art/main_product_shot.jpg


www.sportsrig.com (http://www.sportsrig.com)

5.9 ANDY
02-05-2008, 11:00 PM
thats a sweet sport trailer, i could definatly modify that to carry stuff like coolers and extra parts... but how dose my buddys quad fit in it?

5.9 ANDY
03-03-2008, 06:40 PM
took the trailer out for a spin today, drove around town for about 30 miles, also drove ot to the dump and had it weighed,

she came in at a slim 800lbs.

i figure once we get a real trailer axle, spare tire, gas can, tool box, and few other oddities, we will be sitting about 800-850lbs,


how much dose your guys trailers weigh?

OverkillZJ
03-03-2008, 06:54 PM
how much dose your guys trailers weigh?

Wow, you have a heavy trailer...

My 18 foot CAR HAULER is 1700 lbs...

Cody
03-03-2008, 07:07 PM
My 16 foot trailer was 1650 empty.

Krash80
03-03-2008, 07:50 PM
Andy-

When you do the trailer wiring, do yourself a big favor and wire up some bright reverse lights. Most open deck trailers don't come with reverse lights, and it can make them a bitch to back up in the dark.
You should also mount a vice to it somewhere on the tongue. A vice can be an extremely useful trail tool, especially if you have to change u-joints.



I think a trailer axle will be a good swap, and I'm trying to wrap my head around the SOA vs. SUA idea. I kind of just assumed I'd do SOA but SUA does have less wrap....

Yeah, those trailers sure do put a lot of torque to their rear-ends...better get a traction bar to help prevent that wicked spring wrap. :rolleyes:


And my trailer weighs 8,000 lbs empty. :mrgreen:

5.9 ANDY
03-03-2008, 08:08 PM
ok reverse lights, and a vice, funny, i see vicec on the backs of trucks and i was actualy thinking of doing one on the trailer, guess its a good idea if some else tells me too.

EDIT, i allready wired it up, but i can go back and chage some stuff, and splice a few wires.

CurtP
03-04-2008, 08:42 AM
And my trailer weighs 8,000 lbs empty. :mrgreen:
What does your house have to do with any of this? :confused:

:flipoff2:

sevenslats
03-04-2008, 04:29 PM
My 4x7 trail trailer weighed 475 lbs.
It had a wood deck, 18" plywood sides, a tailgate, fenders, and most important, SAFETY CHAINS.

JordanA
03-04-2008, 05:39 PM
What does your house have to do with any of this? :confused:

:flipoff2:


definitely going into my sig.

5.9 ANDY
03-04-2008, 11:16 PM
My 4x7 trail trailer weighed 475 lbs.
It had a wood deck, 18" plywood sides, a tailgate, fenders, and most important, SAFETY CHAINS.


i have safety chains, big ones.

sevenslats
03-05-2008, 08:05 PM
Good. I didn't see 'em in your pics yet.

Now that you have the frame all done up, keep your eyes peeled for some lighter weight steel to replace some of that heavy stuff. my 475 lb trailer held my 700 lb Sportsman 500 plus plow with no problem.

5.9 ANDY
03-05-2008, 09:24 PM
at this point, i think the only plae to loose weight will be in the axle... as for the rest of it, there aint no going back, it is welded SOLID,

and thanks for the weight, its nice to get an idea as to how dense my trailer is.

OverkillZJ
03-05-2008, 09:43 PM
Sure you can't ditch the deck for something lighter? Shouldn't be too hard, and it looks heavy...

zj95
03-05-2008, 10:51 PM
No way that trailer wieghs 800 pounds.....

a 05 artic cat 500 TRV (2 seater) wieghs 825ish...

and its the same size as your trailer

zj95
03-05-2008, 10:52 PM
id say 400 tops

cooperzj
03-05-2008, 11:45 PM
If your gonna be taking it off road, you will want to consider a different ball hitch connection. One like this:

http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/Tregg1.jpg

It will allow more flex up and down- which is what you will encounter when going over obsticals.

You can read more about offroad trailers here:

http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/Trailers.htm

Hope that helps.

5.9 ANDY
03-05-2008, 11:50 PM
If your gonna be taking it off road, you will want to consider a different ball hitch connection. One like this:

http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/Tregg1.jpg

It will allow more flex up and down- which is what you will encounter when going over obsticals.

You can read more about offroad trailers here:

http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/Trailers.htm

Hope that helps.

thanks, i was looking at a lock-n-roll, there link is around here some where, ill try to find it.

website. http://www.locknroll.com/


id say 400 tops

i would bet $500 that is is more than 400lbs,

zj95
03-06-2008, 12:13 AM
ok 450 tops....

Im thinking your dump is over charging people....lolz

zj95
03-06-2008, 12:15 AM
an 20ft boat trailer is 500ish

5.9 ANDY
03-06-2008, 12:16 AM
an 20ft boat trailer is 500ish
they are made out of aluminum.

ok, this weekend ill go get it weighed with out the truck and doing the subtraction.

zj95
03-06-2008, 12:22 AM
no they arnt..... Most are galvinized Steel

I work with them everyday

5.9 ANDY
03-06-2008, 12:39 AM
no they arnt..... Most are galvinized Steel

I work with them everyday

o, my cousins was aluminum, is that rare?

zj95
03-06-2008, 03:05 AM
Not rare... smaller boats use aluminum... (some bigger to but its not a common choice, atleast not in AZ)

They are known for cracking... I just had to build all new sring hangers for a guy with one a few months ago...

Every spring Hanger he had was Broken into 5 pieces, I made new ones for him outta 1/4'' . . . .:D

OverkillZJ
03-06-2008, 01:45 PM
an 20ft boat trailer is 500ish

Apples and oranges...

nate
03-06-2008, 08:25 PM
You guys must have some light duty car trailers or something. My 10k rated 18ft flatbed is 2520lbs empty.