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WJJEEPIN
06-08-2007, 05:49 PM
Sup Guys, ( Hey all, I have pulled my images from Photo bucket and am in the process of loading to google photos and replacing them)

I got this 99 Wj as a hookup from a friend of my dad for 5K in January 07. It had 100K on the clock and was pretty well taken care of, it came with the L6 and Selectrac Tcase... I got the deal because it needed new tires, diff work, and had some minor blemishes.
He kept up on most basic stuff.

So after wasting a ton of $ on getting the Diff fixed and new Dueller A/T 225/75 (Doh) :smt021 I started the learning process.

My dads friend was cheap and didnt get any options I went to Ebay for help.
-PIAA driving Fog Lights Custom wired and Mounted For late night trips on Highway 50 up to Lake Tahoe. -OEM Tow hooks and Towhitch for a pull when I finally get her stuck...

Here is the earliest pic I have and was after adding 31's and a BB.
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/Uz1E2dBN1LxNA7sVA

And Here how she sits now, I have just ordered the Goliath Rack to replace the Thule you will see later in the thread:
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WJJEEPIN
06-08-2007, 06:00 PM
The next Noob thing to add was the old Trusty BB
Front and TCase OEM skids.
I also went in and added a CB on my and my lil brothers rigs so we can shit talk while on the trail...
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I pulled the Tail light and ran it inline with the stock wire and have since added a spring and quick release... For those that are interested its a firestick antenna mount.
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Upgraded to Brembo's and drilled rotors = BIG difference
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So after all that fun easy mods we hit Strawberry Pass (South lake Tahoe Near Kirkwood)
For our shakedown run we did the first half going from the workers station to the water crossing. Half way through we found the highest spot and set up camp.
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After heading out and having a good time we headed back to Caples lake for some fishing and DRINKING!!!

Between 4 of us we Killled two thirty packs of beer and started on the Jim Beam and killed about 90% of that before we passed the F out. My bros buddy pissed himself in his sleeping bag. Good times... :partyman:

Bug bit me = Bigger.

WJJEEPIN
06-08-2007, 06:12 PM
So since I was recently married and we were scraping together our funds to buy our first place money was scarce. For those in the SF Bay Area you know what I mean...

So I scraped together just enough and got a set of Rocky-Road Sliders.
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Piaa low/high beam bulbs
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I started piecing together a Frankenstein lift. I got pretty good deals via Ebay Craigslist and the forums.
Includes:
2"BB (already owned)
OME HD 2" Springs
OME SS (replaced recently w/ Tennco)
JKS Trac-Bar/BPE/Quick Discos
Teraflex A spacer/ and Tcase drop Kit
Rubicon Express TT shocks
1.25 Wheel Spacers
5th Spare Rim (Thannks to Wonder371)
Set of 5 MT/R off a Rubi with 5K on E'm
Spring Retainers from IRO

At the trailhead at Hollister OHV

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easymunny
06-08-2007, 06:15 PM
Half rack = 12 beers

WJJEEPIN
06-08-2007, 06:35 PM
AHHHH! Well I meant two 30 Packs.. Rack just sounded better in my head. ;)

WJJEEPIN
06-08-2007, 07:26 PM
So after I put the lift in I was having some minor DW issues. I added the HD TB bushings and it helped a little but shifted the shimmy to a different MPH range.
None the less we put a 3" lift in little bro's TJ and some 32" BFG A/T and we went with a local club to Hollister to see how they roll. Nothing to difficult but to give us an idea of what she can do.
We did some Ravines
Little Flex
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NEED LOCKERS
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Posing @ full Stuff
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I just got a new MONROE SS and after the first day it seems to have subdued the shimmy and DW. This weekend will be the testing ground.
My original OME SS was used. (so much for saving $20)

Future Plans:
Flipping TR & DL/ DONE
On board Air/CO2 DONE
Roof Rack w/ shovel & Hi-Lift holder DONE
Front Bumper (ARB) DONE
Rear Bumper (???)
Custom High Clearance IRO Long Arms Front DONE
Swap D35 for Ford 9" DONE
Currie HP 3RD Rear Detroit locker 4.88 gears for ford 9" DONE
ARB Locker &4.88 for D30 DONE
35" MTRs tires on Bead-Locks DONE
Raise Gas Tank DONE
Rear Long Arms DONE
Swap Out D30 for 609 Swap - have all the parts but dont have the $5K to get it installed
Dual Battery with Solar panel on the roof DONE

Snowhobo
06-08-2007, 10:30 PM
Ive been looking at those rocky-road sliders for a good bit now. How do you like them? Im getting a pair in a bout a month and am trying to find my best bet

WJJEEPIN
06-11-2007, 01:29 PM
Yeah, I enjoy them. They work pretty good as a step and havent had to save my rockers yet but they fit snug and have worked great as a jacking point. All I read about people using them sounded good and I have no doubts that they wont perform. Plus they lifetime guarantee doesnt hurt either... Hope that helps.

MBATF
06-12-2007, 02:29 AM
Hey was that pic taken with "espritdefour" Monthly trail meeting?

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
06-12-2007, 03:43 AM
Looks like Keith's twin.

Nice dub!

WJJEEPIN
06-12-2007, 01:37 PM
Hey was that pic taken with "espritdefour" Monthly trail meeting?


Yup we went out with Esprit De Four.


Looks like Keith's twin. Nice dub!

Thx.

Its actually the ghost of Keiths rig since he went to the LA.... But yeah, I was picking his brain about the BB/OME lift...

PassRunnerZJ
06-12-2007, 02:48 PM
Nice clean looking dub. I was looking thru your list of todo's and see that you want to put a luchbox locker in the rear... you have replaced the turdy-five right? If not, another item to learn from Keith, keep it open until you replace it. The front locker will get you far, but keep the gear ratio in mind and get it with a carrier to take you higher.

WJJEEPIN
06-12-2007, 04:27 PM
Nice clean looking dub. I was looking thru your list of todo's and see that you want to put a luchbox locker in the rear... you have replaced the turdy-five right? If not, another item to learn from Keith, keep it open until you replace it. The front locker will get you far, but keep the gear ratio in mind and get it with a carrier to take you higher.

Yup I am planning on going with some 4.10 or 4.56 gears, havent quite decided which way to go yet. I am trying also to decide a lunchbox or Ox in the front? I have the selec-trac is there going to be a noticeable clicking with the LB? I can't see myself going over 33's unless I get another rig for DD or win the lotto... :smt091

I know they are not the preferred axel but Is the D35 really THAT bad? Are we talking just about bringing some spare axels? Thoughts???

nate
06-12-2007, 04:49 PM
Last time I checked, trees grow up, not sideways :cool:






http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/WJ%20Wheeling%20Hollister/MALL%20CRAWLIN/Comingdown.jpg

WJJEEPIN
06-12-2007, 05:04 PM
Last time I checked, trees grow up, not sideways :cool:

What are you talking about... That is how they grow in Tahoe... Its a gravitational thingie that only happens there..

Yeah that is what I get for letting my Hippie friend hold the camera! Bastard was taking photos all day and when I checked them out at the end about 85% were "artistically" taken.... (at all stupid off center angles and funky rotations.) Fing bastard!!!

PassRunnerZJ
06-12-2007, 05:29 PM
I know they are not the preferred axel but Is the D35 really THAT bad? Are we talking just about bringing some spare axels? Thoughts???

Yes and yes, but they are a PIA to change on the trail due to c-clips, weak axle shafts, and a weak housing. Keep your eyes open for a 44a from another WJ or start researching into an 8.8 build. Really any money you put into a turdy-five is wasted. Keep it open until then.

WJJEEPIN
07-27-2007, 01:38 AM
So my first baby was born last week ... :D

I cant wait till he is old enough to get on the trail with me.

Anywho just to make it better when I returned from sleeping on a cot next to my wife in the hospital for 4 days I got a package. It was the IRO TR flip!

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MAD BEEF!!!
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:booya:
Its got a cut out on the other side so you dont have to flip the DL.

Now I just need to find time to get under the jeep and get er done!

WJJEEPIN
10-07-2007, 10:57 PM
Ive been busy...
Found a local dude who helped me weld in the insert an flip the DL up to the top. (BIG THANKS TO JWAG form bayarea4x4)
That alone helped the steering issues I was having.
I also got the IRO TRFlip up top.
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This flip as most of U know, allows me to flip the SS up top and out of harms way.
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All in all it lifted the TR 4.5" over the stock location.

I found a KILLER deal on upper and lower adjustable RE superflex Control arms thanks to DC4WD!!!
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I used the #'s from ARLOGUTHRO's SUS thread and it REALLY helped my caster. W/O any real alignment it drives just about how it did before I started lifting her.

WJJEEPIN
10-07-2007, 11:08 PM
My Bday just past and I got the hook up from the family.

Popps hooked me up with a used Loadwarrior w/ extension. Threw the spare tire up there and freed up some tool stotage.
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Grandma hooked up a 15lb co2 tank setup from the source so I built a holder for it over the driver side rear tire well, I realize this is not able to be used in this orientation but it worked for mounting it.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IMG00109.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IMG00111.jpg

with enough room to still access the new tool storage.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IMG00110.jpg

MoonWorks
10-18-2007, 01:40 AM
You need to stand that co2 tank up!

redline61
10-18-2007, 02:00 AM
Do WJs have a storage box in the back cargo area, or am I just seeing things in the last pic?

rccolacc
10-18-2007, 10:21 AM
Are you talking about the lid thing on the floor? I think it's where the spare tire goes. It's a lid that covers the tire up.
-RC

redline61
10-18-2007, 02:48 PM
Thats pretty sweet. I never knew that.

SuicideTireZJ
10-18-2007, 06:06 PM
First, taking pictures with the camera at 45* doesn't fool anyone.

Second, that intake looks just a wee-bit extreme for the I-6.

Other than that, nice Dub. They're sooo pretty!

WJJEEPIN
10-26-2007, 02:00 PM
First, taking pictures with the camera at 45* doesn't fool anyone.

Second, that intake looks just a wee-bit extreme for the I-6.

Other than that, nice Dub. They're sooo pretty!

As for #1 Yes I know... Refer to post #15...

#2 Just opening up the intake and working my way back and I got it dirt cheap.... Will be adding headers and exhaust in the near future. When she blows or I start getting some bigger paychecks I will be porting it out.

And thanks, yup she's purdy, I cant decide If i like her dirty or clean.. ;)


Are you talking about the lid thing on the floor? I think it's where the spare tire goes. It's a lid that covers the tire up.
-RC

Yup that is where the spare used to be. Its now up top. And I store tools and such down there...


You need to stand that co2 tank up!

Its only stored that way. It is always removed when in use... :smt023
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Wheeling%20Strawberry/IMG_0155.jpg

WJJEEPIN
10-26-2007, 08:22 PM
Got a chance to do some wheeling over the weekend...
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/7R2yunCmQuNPW7Hg9

Bro's TJ, Showing me up on 32's...

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WJJEEPIN
10-26-2007, 08:24 PM
Some More pIX
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DerekL
10-26-2007, 09:03 PM
Bro's TJ, Showing me up on 32's...


TJs don't show grands up, you were just driving like a pussy.

WJJEEPIN
10-26-2007, 09:28 PM
:funny:


UMMM Sure.

On that obstical, with his 32's and 3" lift and shorter wheel base he had more clearance and a better breakover angel. Where as my 4" with 30.5's I had less clearance. I did fine, and got way better flex with my adjustable ca's but clearance is clearance.

Thanks for the comment :finga:

DerekL
10-26-2007, 10:21 PM
Just giving you shit. I understand the geometry involved.

WJJEEPIN
10-26-2007, 11:07 PM
Just giving you shit. I understand the geometry involved.


No worries, Just pushing back.. :smt006

It REALLY made me want 33's.... Now just need my money tree to bloom. :smt017

grandJ910
11-23-2007, 09:08 PM
love the jeep man. does the tie rod over the knuckle make any different in the steering at all. im looking to do that to mine.

ZachJ
11-24-2007, 03:30 AM
what trail did you run??? how challenging was it.

BTW nice WJ.

TheNightFox
11-26-2007, 12:52 AM
No worries, Just pushing back.. :smt006

It REALLY made me want 33's.... Now just need my money tree to bloom. :smt017


Nice WJ man, you need some 32's or some 33's though for sure

WJJEEPIN
12-05-2007, 10:02 PM
love the jeep man. does the tie rod over the knuckle make any different in the steering at all. im looking to do that to mine.

Hey Grand,

Thanks! Just put on some 4.5" RK springs so I need to put up some new pics.

AS for the flip, little difference. Its actually better because my oem TR were shot. And after flipping the DL the geometry is a little off and I get minor bumpsteer. The TR flip from IROR uses hemi joints which were nice and easy and didnt require any welding.


what trail did you run??? how challenging was it.

BTW nice WJ.

That was Strawberry Pass. Its only a few miles from Kirkwood snow mountain in Nor-Cal. The first 1/2-1/3 is no challange, more or a dirt road with some minor obstacles. But great camping spot with a killer view of Caples Lake and the snow mountain accros the way. The second 1/2-1/3 is definatly more technical. There was a rock squeeze that is awkward and tippy. And a couple rock gardens and one Very tippy spot. I hear a guy hit it and his roll meter hit 30. All in all very fun and a great location because it drops you off on HWY 50 which takes you back into S. Lake Tahoe.


Nice WJ man, you need some 32's or some 33's though for sure

Yeah, I'm stoked and bummed about the decision at the same time. I'm stoked I only paid like 400 for all 5 MTR's and I didnt have to regear and I still get ok mileage. I'm bummed for obvious reasons. I will be replacing my axels with the JK's D44's in the not to near future and at that point will be swapping in 33-35's.

merkur 92
12-05-2007, 11:01 PM
Nice wj,looks like it keeps growing.I plan on doing the jk44 swap soon to.Have you figured out how to make the electric lockers work,i guess they have a low voltage pulsed signal to keep them engaged.That is the only problem i see in the swap.

WJJEEPIN
12-06-2007, 12:43 PM
Nice wj,looks like it keeps growing.I plan on doing the jk44 swap soon to.Have you figured out how to make the electric lockers work,i guess they have a low voltage pulsed signal to keep them engaged.That is the only problem i see in the swap.

Yeah i need to stop spending money on lift and start focusing on axels and some LA's.

Sounds like your closer than I in the JK swap. I was talking with the guys from Iron Rock Off Road and they are currently producing a JK44 with all the braketry for the WJ... He was saying that they are hoping to have it for sale by the end of the year. You might want to give Josh @ IROR an email as I am sure they have the answer to getting the locker working and can either give you the answer or get you the parts necessary to get er done..

WJJEEPIN
12-06-2007, 01:07 PM
Speaking of lift here are the 4.5"RK springs vs. the ome/bb.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UlLqwwTnQQ7wDatnpHr6Cyr3KUBrFpn9wePiTscBknLrdGbSe_ Xr3HTrnRcw2SDSCMy_eVkXvPC8OtqOdjv4J2SX9nkHldyfKePC cqQIq4Bm3i7M_O91Z-gf7V2kkJxwNius8YW8Sg=w2400

Here are the before & After front wheel well shots.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MaE5QGouFcF7hsSBmyUW-ynrmhaqHFSsY1spAOlSNP8NRqoZjJMsGLJ_b1PJQW5oneQtoIN DO6isBzhEWUSn1pzTTFjsHxAQP7dJUKOY-eW6DY4M8swjwYR5LxxLXOm3KNtOQSZ11Q=w2400

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-85csE9-gI_7BXcsSPtlPo75kdu9jSLa6dO0TUV6eF08PuIHsTRAGnMGrX 3mmi1l2aR4_lUkoX_d5b2zGijZk87grqkybBG8ZYxlzi1nynsD BdVLcnDhx6HaFu9_aMpKDPwWlCBN0A=w2400

WJJEEPIN
12-06-2007, 01:17 PM
And here are the rear Wheel Well before and after shots.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FinQZzL00eQp956RKSX1QM6S4fQSL6WiBCGhCbJT7rnF2CM_sX XPe9CSABUMycoM2aanjwpcv5Qszh8cBbP-RlKc7rWQFtCdqZz9bOfMoVGMDeEi47iwEI-yBy0U6InsL9XsMccrAg=w2400

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CnZRoTG95KUnsJt5ZFHGmCOGMPVneSy8eRQUpB2OVJvGlH0k83 XN7kUG_4JEuK-fsvdavSagkp-8EYsbQ4wCNIxw1G4tyl9gCuJ4G6vjOXyhw6SQ07n7uGjzkCxgv ybyODUYImzoJw=w2400

The front is just about the same, just a little taller.

The reason I got these springs was because I wanted to compensate for all the Shit I keep in the rear and the sagging it was causing. It was hanging me up so after I installed the rear I checked it out and it was still sagging so I jacked it back up and put the rear BB back on and it now has the tilt like from the factory.

Now I can walk under the rear hatch and I dont crack my head on it. The new measurements are 21.5" in front (from wheel center to fender lip) and 22.25" in the rear. I'm diggn it.

SuicideTireZJ
12-06-2007, 04:15 PM
The TR flip from IROR uses hemi joints which were nice and easy and didnt require any welding.





What are hemi joints? Do you mean heim? If so, dat's baaaad on a steering part.

WJJEEPIN
12-06-2007, 08:07 PM
What are hemi joints? Do you mean heim? If so, dat's baaaad on a steering part.

Oops yea I meant heim, I think my computer auto fixed it. There are pics in 17 & 18...

I have heard both arguments on the use of them. Fact is I know multiple people who have them on their rigs and have had NO issues. This is only the TR which is a L to R function and no 3D movement. As long as I keep an eye on them making sure they arent loosening up there good. Its on a check list along with the 100 other things on my rig that need to be routinely inspected... :rolleyes:

grandJ910
12-06-2007, 08:43 PM
thanks for the info man.

the new coils look good.

DerekL
12-07-2007, 12:15 AM
So the JK axle is wide enough for a WJ? I thought about that when the 44's came out from Mopar, good to know, and keep me in mind when you go long arms with those shorts you got... (-:

WJJEEPIN
12-08-2007, 02:52 AM
So the JK axle is wide enough for a WJ? I thought about that when the 44's came out from Mopar, good to know, and keep me in mind when you go long arms with those shorts you got... (-:

Yup their even wider than the WJ axels. If memory serves me on wjeeps.com is sais that our axels are around 59" wide. The new JK44's are 62" wide. So with the wider axels and a good rim tire combo you could really widen your stance.

But I am at least a year away from that step. Babies are EXPENSIVE.... :D

C.C.Reed
12-08-2007, 03:16 AM
Yup their even wider than the WJ axels. If memory serves me on wjeeps.com is sais that our axels are around 59" wide.

Incorrect. . . stock WJ is 63.5" WMS to WMS.

merkur 92
12-08-2007, 09:23 AM
The jk axles are a little over 2" wider than a wj,even if you wanted the stock width you could make that up with wheel backspacing.I like being a little wider when you go taller.

DerekL
12-08-2007, 11:29 AM
Incorrect. . . stock WJ is 63.5" WMS to WMS.

Congradulations you can read and give useless comments, when your mom comes in for parent teacher confrence i'll show her your gold star!

indy242003
12-08-2007, 04:52 PM
Incorrect. . . stock WJ is 63.5" WMS to WMS.

Not to get into your cock measuring contest, but they are 63.5" WMS to WMS. Don't take our word for it though. Get a tape measure and find out yourself.

SuicideTireZJ
12-08-2007, 07:55 PM
Wow, both of you guys need to fucking chill. This isn't even your thread!

C.C.Reed
12-08-2007, 11:51 PM
Wow, both of you guys need to fucking chill. This isn't even your thread!

No shit. But everytime you try to correct someone to help out, some kid with a Jeep mommy bought him makes some dumbass comment. I was just trying to point them in the right direction.

The JK's are not 2" wider. They are 1.5" shorter.

I deleted my other post.

WJJEEPIN, if you are seriously interested in the JK's, they can be had for relatively cheap ($2800 plus freight). The set listed on Pirate come with JK brackets but I am sure Clayton would be willing to get the correct brackets out quickly.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7577660&postcount=1

Good luck.

SuicideTireZJ
12-09-2007, 04:49 AM
My mommy bought my jeep. (Well, part of it at least)

D-FRESH WJ
12-09-2007, 10:19 AM
thats a nice jeep bro

WJJEEPIN
12-10-2007, 02:44 PM
Wow I miss a few days and shit hits the fan... :rolleyes:

Yup I was off. That is why I said about. No worries either way, either rim offset or wheel spacers could squash the difference.

As for the price of $2800 that is CRAZY steep... I did a few searches on google and found them for over 1K less.

http://www.leeparts.com/jeep_wrangler/mopar_performance/suspension/rubicon_locking_front_axle_assembly.html

Plus I am a ways off from this. I just really like this option because it will allow me to keep the stock gauges and just wont be as involved as going w/ a different axle. But hey, who knows what the next couple years will bring.

Thanks for all the compliments. Enjoy the day!!!




The JK's are not 2" wider. They are 1.5" shorter.

the JK's, they can be had for relatively cheap ($2800 plus freight). The set listed on Pirate come with JK brackets but I am sure Clayton would be willing to get the correct brackets out quickly.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7577660&postcount=1

Good luck.

AprilzWarrior
12-10-2007, 03:09 PM
Your in MV... Hmmmm lets Long Arm that Jeep !

Grandsrus
12-10-2007, 10:51 PM
I beleive the set was $2800. Not one axle.

SuicideTireZJ
12-11-2007, 01:02 AM
Your in MV... Hmmmm lets Long Arm that Jeep !

If you're that gung-ho, wanna move to CO?

WJJEEPIN
12-14-2007, 07:24 PM
Your in MV... Hmmmm lets Long Arm that Jeep !


Hey AW,

I REALLY want to LA the bitch... I met Wonder371 and picked up a stock wheel from him. I saw the pics of his rig in your garage on the racks getting surgery. I defiantly am going to shoot you a PM when I got there. But $2K for a LA set is just not in the cards at the moment.. :(

Do you get on or know any of the guys from BayArea4x4.com at all?


I beleive the set was $2800. Not one axle.

Thats not bad then. But the link I put on there says free shipping on any order over $100. Who knows. Again a ways off but it and LA's are definitely my next step.

WJJEEPIN
12-14-2007, 08:03 PM
Oh and on WJJEEPS they call for the Track width as 59.5"

http://wjjeeps.com/dimensions.htm

The track width on pirate for the 44's are 61.9

I guess when i rotate tires next weekend I will get out the tape measuer and kill this beast....

indy242003
12-15-2007, 01:46 AM
Track width is from tire center line. Your WMS is not in the middle of the tire center line. Wheel backspace would factor in for WMS if your using this route to measure.

WJJEEPIN
12-15-2007, 08:54 PM
Track width is from tire center line. Your WMS is not in the middle of the tire center line. Wheel backspace would factor in for WMS if your using this route to measure.

Well based on that logic then how are they measuring the D44 Axles? They say track width when describing lengths of both the WJ & JK axles but that is w/o tires on it. And isnt WMS stand for Wheel Mounting Surface? Which means the from one rotor end to the other?

Well when I take off the tires I will measure the WMS on the WJ and get back with an exact measurement.

MBATF
12-16-2007, 03:47 PM
Do you get on or know any of the guys from BayArea4x4.com at all?




Yea. ME!:smt033

WJJEEPIN
12-17-2007, 03:51 PM
Yea. ME!:smt033

I know your there. Your everywhere! :D

The web site is looking good.

wonder371
12-19-2007, 01:07 PM
Howdy,
Sorry it took so long to chime in on your thread. Your jeep has progressed since we met. Looks good. Even better than mine (cause you actually wheel it!). I know im still a pussy. I'm actually just really busy. Trying to afford the Bay living right now and schooling.

But snow has fallen and I vowed that i would do a little more to the jeep upon snowfall. Tires, Brakelines, Shocks, Locker, and Gears... are in the very near future. Deciding on Tires (somesort of M/Ts either 33s or 35s), MX-6R shocks & put my order in for the aussie locker will get 4.56s installed with it.

So you and MBATF have to pop my wheeling cherry. Jeep looks good homie, even if not wheeling we should meetup... just to say whats up. Congrats on the new addition to the family too!

WJJEEPIN
12-19-2007, 08:34 PM
Howdy,


Hey Wonder,

Thanks for stopping by. Yeah I would be down for a beer meetup or we should get MBATF and hit up Hollister one weekend.

How is the Real Estate thing going? I too have changed jobs, as if the baby thing wasnt hard enough :rolleyes:, and am in the Commercial RE business. Assistant for now but am about a month from my license and a few from changing to agent. I feel ya on the Bay life, SHIT AINT CHEAP!!! Wife and I bought a condo and about a year later popped one out = no money for my jeep. That is why I tried to get it up and ready before he was born, still have a ways to go.

Sounds like a good plan for the WJ, if you need any extra hands with the work let me know, always enjoy getting dirty.

wonder371
12-20-2007, 12:23 AM
Real Estate is doing really well for me actually. I have been a licensed residential assistant for like 3 years now. My folks are also kinda in the biz too. Its been treating us all well.

However, I like nice things (apartments with bay views, 13mpg/the jeep, snowboarding, drinking, gambling/vegas/tahoe, clothes/shoes, eatting out, & girlfriend) all cost too much $$$. The jeep has always been on the back burner. Now im gonna do another little set up upgrades. Im down for hollister. I have a 4 runner buddy who's dying to get out there too. Let me know... keep me in the loop.

ZachJ
12-20-2007, 12:37 AM
Im one of davids friends, I think we are trying to get a trip together to hollister some time next week, it was also be nice to meet some new bay area grand jeepers.

wonder371
12-20-2007, 03:46 AM
i wont be available xmas eve or xmas day. But otherwise i might be down. Tires wont be here in time though. But I can ride the bald 32" A/Ts :)

MBATF
12-20-2007, 05:54 AM
I am down for a trip to HH regardless rain or shine. Even though, I am some what sick of it but with my crazy work schedule I have no choice but HH


Daym guys...talking about hijacking the thread...:smt029

MBATF
12-20-2007, 05:58 AM
by the way...


Mud-pit anyone?? Zach...I think its your turn.:smt033

WJJEEPIN
12-20-2007, 03:21 PM
No worries on the Hi-Jack, its my thread and discussion is welcome.. :smt066

I might be down. Just need some fore warning, MBATF, no last minuet suprises! Wife and baby dont let me do quick runs. Maybe in a couple years when I can bring JR the wife will be stoked but now he would just spu milk everywhere... Sadly my life is planned out...:(

Getting old and Responsible SUX. :shake:

ZachJ
12-20-2007, 03:28 PM
I think that we are thinking of going the weekend of the dec 29.

WJJEEPIN
12-20-2007, 05:23 PM
I think that we are thinking of going the weekend of the dec 29.

So for the weekend or the day? I might come meet for a day if I can work it out. Let me know timing and where and I will try and pass it by the boss... I mean the wife. :smt056

MBATF
12-21-2007, 04:40 AM
Zach... I cant do it on the 29th have work...I can only go on the 30th of Dec...:(

ZachJ
12-21-2007, 05:08 AM
Alright well then the 30th it is. How does that work for everybody else.

WJJEEPIN
12-21-2007, 05:11 PM
That might just work. Let me see what I can finagle with the wife. SHIT I spoiled her for xmas so she owe's me... Ill PM you guys with the outcome...

Oh, to keep this tread going, I got a lifetime alignment at firestone and MAN what a difference!!! Still have a little bump steer but all in all were gravy. The fucktards put my DL Pitman arm side adjustment bolts pointing down so it hit and dented my SS, :smt012 whatever... But the #'s I got from Arlo's suspension thread on JF for my adjustable CA's put it exactly at 4.5% caster. As a FYI for those interested in lengths.

MBATF
12-23-2007, 03:10 AM
So far. you, me, Zach, Jorge (w/ LR DISCOII) & maybe Brandon, Fred and my boss's daughter who has a Nissan Frontier.


Anyone else...?

WJJEEPIN
12-27-2007, 02:34 PM
Hey MBATF,

I'm SO BUMMED!!!! The wife reminded me that we have a Birthday party in Sac on the 30th.... Sadly count me out.... :smt022

WJJEEPIN
12-27-2007, 09:18 PM
Oh Santa was good to me this year....

I got some SOLID Diff covers for the front & Rear. Adapters for a shovel/axe and a Hi-lift bracket for my loadwarrior. I got the parts to fix my leaky rear axel and I bought myself some slotted rotors for the rear. With the funds I got I bought a new front Tom Woods Drive shaft. http://jeepforum.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

I have some time under the rig in my near future... http://www.jeepforum.com/gallery/files//1/0/thumbs.gif

wonder371
12-29-2007, 08:00 PM
count me out. Even though i spoiled my girlfriend as well. I some how got swindeled into a trip to wine country and tahoe over new years. I will be back around the 7th. If anyone will be in tahoe during that time let me know.

MBATF
12-30-2007, 02:26 AM
Fredr, and Zach are out too...wtf:mad:



you guys suck... :finga:



I am gonna stay home too then...since I don't like to get stuck somewhere on trail by myself w/o any :cheer:&:tease:

WJJEEPIN
01-06-2008, 11:49 PM
The JK's are not 2" wider. They are 1.5" shorter.



Ok, So I spoke to my contact at IROR as they are building a D44 JK axle with all the mounting fabbed up for the WJ.

I asked for some clarification on length. He informed me that the JK axels are in fact longer than the WJ axel.

50th Post.. :)

indy242003
01-29-2008, 01:03 AM
The JK axle may be wider than the WJ. I have never measured a JK. Seriously, go measure the axle under your rig. I just measured the one on floor out of my WJ and it's about 64" WMS to WMS. I hope he's not getting the measurements from the same place you got them. A WJ rear is 5" wider than you thought it was.

indy242003
01-29-2008, 01:12 AM
In perspective the JK axle would have to be 66" wide and the dana 60 rear out of a '79 F250 is 67". That's what is considered "full width". I have one under my WJ and the Iroks stick out pretty far on both sides. I'm not trying to be a dick, I just really want you to go outside and use a tape measure to find out for yourself.

WJJEEPIN
01-29-2008, 08:07 PM
In perspective the JK axle would have to be 66" wide and the dana 60 rear out of a '79 F250 is 67". That's what is considered "full width". I have one under my WJ and the Iroks stick out pretty far on both sides. I'm not trying to be a dick, I just really want you to go outside and use a tape measure to find out for yourself.

No worries. I was planning to measure it when i pulled the wheels off to rotate the tires but by the time I got everything off I couldn't find my tape measure.

Though that still doesn't help me with the width of the JK axels. Thats why I asked the guys building it the jk44 for direct install into the WJ.

Regardless I have been rethinking my wj dreams. I am leaning towards just throwing on some front LA's 33's 4.10 gears and picking up a local D44A locked and call it done.

I am thinking of keeping it as a DD and weekend family camping/trail rig. I am checking out mostly completed TJ as my main wheeling rig.

indy242003
01-29-2008, 08:23 PM
Most of the time the rear 35 is the biggest issue. When locked it usually snaps like a twig under the skinny petal. Our rigs are just too heavy for this axle (not one of Jeeps better ideas), but they really didn't design for over stock sized tires. If your not looking to go huge on tire size it might be a good idea to build a ford 9" rear with wheel adapters in the rear. I know a lot of guys running a 9 in the rear and the stock 30 in the front with no issues. Hell to be honest I wheeled mine for 2 years on the 35 before putting a set of 60's under it. The 35 locked has a bad habit of breaking shafts with 33" and larger tires.

WJJEEPIN
01-29-2008, 08:28 PM
Nope not the turdy5. I am referring to the 44a. A local dude has one with an aussie all slapped together. He is searching for a different axle to switch to and when he changes Im picking his up.

indy242003
01-29-2008, 08:35 PM
The AL44 would be a good alternative to the 35 for sure. They say it has some issues with bearings being chewed up. I have not ever seen this first hand so I can't say that this is common. I would check and see if the drive shaft is different. I'm pretty sure they are. If he swaped the rear out you might be able to get the DS too. Do you have a SYE in yet?

WJJEEPIN
01-29-2008, 08:52 PM
Nope. Just got a front Tom Woods Drive shaft. Dont have any issues with the rear and am waiting till I get there to have an excuse to tackle that.

I sadly have a rear axle seal that went bad and I think the rear main seal is leaking. Maintenance is on my list of things to get done soon.

WJJEEPIN
02-01-2008, 04:06 PM
http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=IROR&Category_Code=WJJKA

JK Axles built to drop into the WJ. Pretty sweet. They are saying it has a Track Width of 1.75" over the WJ on stock wheels. The spacers they are offering are only to clear the 16" rim and only add 6/16 to the track width.

indy242003
02-01-2008, 08:53 PM
That's a really good deal. The #'s for WMS to WMS were a free for all in the earlier posts. Here is a pics of the D35 out of a WJ to end the WMS to WMS debate. Like I said I was not sure of the JK axles, but it seems to be a good replacement for the boat anchors that come under our rigs.

C.C.Reed
02-02-2008, 01:54 AM
From the Mopar Performance catalog

Mopar Performance Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Model 44 Rear Axle Assembly

Part Number: P5153826

2007 JK Wrangler
Specifications:Axle Ratio: 4.10
Factory Rubicon E-Locker
Axle Width: 61.9
Wheel Bolt pattern: 5 on 5.0
Rear Axle Tube Diameter: 80mm
Front Axle Tube Diameter: 63.5mm
Front Brake Rotor: 302mm Diameter x 28mm Wide, Vented
Rear Brake Rotor:

WJJEEPIN
02-03-2008, 05:08 PM
From the Mopar Performance catalog

Mopar Performance Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Model 44 Rear Axle Assembly

Part Number: P5153826
Axle Width: 61.9

Is that WMS to WMS or simply the axle w/o the breaks?

indy242003
02-03-2008, 05:15 PM
IDK, but it did list the brake rotors on the post. Haha, we cleaned up and resolved the issue of how wide the WJ axle is, but the JK axle remains unsolved. Damn it, now I'll have to find a JK at the mall and crawl under it with a tape measure. lol :D

indy242003
02-03-2008, 05:16 PM
Alright, who's got a Rubi JK (that owns a tape measure) that can kill this thing?

WJJEEPIN
02-04-2008, 09:39 PM
Seriously!!!! I have started a thread at JF to see If someone would measure it when they had the wheels off. No one is jumping in line to do it but I will keep bugging till I can find someone who is rotating their tires.

I just keep getting people's speculations which is a WASTE OF TIME!!!!

Ill post if I find out the answer.

MoonWorks
02-05-2008, 01:01 AM
6/16

Didn't you mean 3/8".... :)

WJJEEPIN
02-05-2008, 05:43 PM
Didn't you mean 3/8".... :)

Nope just smoking some crack here. I meant to say 6/8" Thanks for catching it.

ZJ Pappy
02-05-2008, 06:01 PM
Nope just smoking some crack here. I meant to say 6/8" Thanks for catching it.

3/4"
Fractions rule #1 - REDUCE, REDUCE, REDUCE!!

Sorry to give you a hard time. My math teachers instilled in me that not reducing your fractions is almost as bad as being a Nazi.



You're Jeep is looking good. Can't wait until you get those Clayton's.

WJJEEPIN
02-05-2008, 06:19 PM
3/4"
Fractions rule #1 - REDUCE, REDUCE, REDUCE!!

Sorry to give you a hard time. My math teachers instilled in me that not reducing your fractions is almost as bad as being a Nazi.



You're Jeep is looking good. Can't wait until you get those Clayton's.

Yeah me too, I'm hoping to get it with my tax return.

Boy that is an intense math teacher. That is why I stopped @ statistics and got my degree in communications. Fuck math! IMO life is too short for so many damn rules.

grandmaster
02-05-2008, 11:39 PM
How do you like those rocky-road sliders? Been thinking about getting those ones just need some money.

WJJEEPIN
02-06-2008, 12:50 AM
How do you like those rocky-road sliders? Been thinking about getting those ones just need some money.

They do what they are meant to do. Very sturdy, for the money they are golden and with the life time guarantee how can you go wrong...

They are not know for their customer service or quick turn around and you will hear a lot of negative press about their lifts but to no complaints about their rockers. There are a bunch of people on different forums tearing them up. Bigdavezj has a set on his rig.

If you look on their site that is my wj with them installed.

MoonWorks
02-06-2008, 01:03 AM
Nope just smoking some crack here. I meant to say 6/8" Thanks for catching it.

Thanks...that clears things up since it still an incorrect fraction which is why I was making the joke in the first place. So yeah...lay off the crack pipe. :)

ZJ Pappy
02-06-2008, 01:10 AM
Thanks...that clears things up since it still an incorrect fraction which is why I was making the joke in the first place. So yeah...lay off the crack pipe. :)

There is no such thing as an "incorrect" fraction. ;)

WJJEEPIN
02-06-2008, 01:33 AM
Regardless of the crack they say with two 3/16" spacers to clear the 16" rims. Add it as you please... :smt023

WJJEEPIN
02-13-2008, 07:35 PM
"The JK axles are 65 1/4" wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface. This is 1 3/4" wider than your WJ Grand Cherokee stock axles."

From IROR website....

http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=IROR&Category_Code=WJJKA

WJJEEPIN
02-13-2008, 07:41 PM
So based on your measurement indi242003, of 64 its its an 1 1/4" bigger bigger. Plus you need 3/16" spacers to clear the 16"rim of the wj which adds 3/8 to the overall width totaling 1 5/8" larger.

indy242003
02-13-2008, 08:19 PM
So based on your measurement indi242003, of 64 its its an 1 1/4" bigger bigger. Plus you need 3/16" spacers to clear the 16"rim of the wj which adds 3/8 to the overall width totaling 1 5/8" larger.


I'm not sold on this yet. 1st and foremost track width and WMS to WMS is 2 different things. Let's compare apples to apples here. I really don't care about putting a 44 under my rig, but for future reference, define what they are calling "axle width". There are 2 ways to measure it, as I mentioned. There are too many measurements floating around here. Let's get the WMS to WMS so we all agree. We all know what a WJ rear is now. Someone find out for sure (WMS to WMS) what the JK Rubi axle is. Hell, for all we know they could be measuring the wheel studs to wheel studs or rotor to rotor. Hey, don't get it twisted WJJEEPIN I'm not aiming this at you, I just want a solid answer to this question, as I'm sure you do. Regardless of the outcome we know they will work (It's on the damn website). This thing has went on too long. Someone on here knows somebody with a JK Rubi. Grab a tape measure and let's know with out a doubt. Quotes from websites are not going to cut it. We've already had like 3 different ones on this same axle.

WJJEEPIN
02-13-2008, 08:33 PM
I'm not sold on this yet. 1st and foremost track width and WMS to WMS is 2 different things.


No worries, I know your not firing at me. :smt070

Though they do call it @ 65 1/4 wms to wms.

I am also working with a dude from JF who supposed to measure his JK tonight. Once I hear I will report back, and we finally will have a real world measurement and can KILL this debate once and for all...... :smt038

WJJEEPIN
02-14-2008, 02:08 PM
I got a confirmed 65 1/4" long on the JK axle. So with stock rims and required spacers it comes out to an official 1 5/8" wider than the WJ Axles.

Which with some good backspaced wheels will net you AROUND 5" wider stance. Not bad.

Granted there are always different choices that might benefit one wheeler more than the other, but that is not my point.

1) Wider stance
2) larger & stronger gears
3) good after market support.

& for those who cannot weld or dont have the time its a good option.

We can finally put this discussion to rest....:smt015

:best:

WJJEEPIN
03-17-2008, 03:03 PM
Adjustable rear Lower Control arms from JKS PN6125. Going on the rig this weekend. This will allow for when I get my front Clayton LA kit to go to 6" until I get the funds to slap in the rear. This is it vs my size 12
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Misc%20Jeep%20Pix/IMG_3209.jpg

And the supplied Spacers

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Misc%20Jeep%20Pix/IMG_3212.jpg

WJJEEPIN
03-25-2008, 03:17 PM
So I still havent put those jks rears in but that should be in the next couple weeks. I found a local dude selling an ARB... I couldnt resist so he came over Saturday and during the swap my stupid drill died. So he helped me lug the bumper onto my balcony and left me to finish the install on my own. I got the wiring and brackets done on Saturday and started tapping friends to help me lug it back down to get it slapped on. Last night I bribed my buddy with Pizza and beer and we got it done. :rock:

Brackets & No Bumper
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Fr6LAY-7OczejMxKT59V5vY3lvG9pqnkE9p1RSm89yt85mhQzLI-jDHBXm5PxqHQ-j6Y6sBDamzRP-uqsHDKi-6PRbiE9pi7LlRIQfbrXG9QO6icIChlb3LbV8f1cgV01gpM4Qum OA=w2400

Bumper on the Deck teasing me.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/O2OxSyZaF9KbeLQpl5IOdII7vAZywl279s1MvBrMTVGmC6dwC1 jYnJhT4u43K8ko4mk-adrZPCr-k3gU_TfVigSLHfcS76Y9q6fmH-uFqeE4lqzsjfm3KSnIknP22inVIvXtZcVBkQ=w2400

And on the rig. Still need to tweek it and get the alignment a little better but that can wait.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uvGtvPyAWp9d4mbtF3vvN8Dx6ZMTsWZRuIsFNwMv2z56rEXT8e Okxqubwvt5sL8OqKeEIf3k6UUMDzl-1AOx6uoTJmSqQJMSKsh1xm7zQzBG6hL77uLlFNujyIZudIHyZv 9WNbJM0w=w2400

Yeah for me....

DerekL
03-25-2008, 05:37 PM
Handicapped? You all always get the best parking, you suck.

WJJEEPIN
03-25-2008, 05:47 PM
Handicapped? You all always get the best parking, you suck.

My knee has popped out of the socket since I was 12. Need surgery to get it fixed. Im not a gimp or anything but when I was in college the lots were hella far away and when i have to do a ton of walking my knees get soar. So I talked to my doctor and she hooked it up. :D

Doesnt stop me from doing stuff, just have to be a little more careful when relaxing it, as that is when it pops out. I dont take the handi spots, just a rule for myself. But I do get to park in CA for free all day, that includes 30 min spots and meters. ;)

wonder371
03-31-2008, 05:49 PM
if you hear of another good deal on a used ARB in the area, let me know!

DanKNesS
05-02-2008, 03:32 AM
looks good

WJJEEPIN
05-02-2008, 09:42 AM
looks good

Thanks. After putting on the ARB it pulled the springs down pretty hard in the front. So I am stepping up to some 5" from IRO. Just got them in the mail, hope to get them on this weekend, cuz I'm heading to Hollister next weekend.

Taking my pops out for his first wheeling trip... :supz:

I will update some more pictures after their installed.

DanKNesS
05-02-2008, 11:37 AM
fo sho. i just added spacers all around. i used a hilift on the opposite side with the spring compressor on... lift hi lift as hi as you feel comfortable tighten spring compressor then lower it and hi lift close to the tire you are doin and wa la out comes the compressed spring

WJJEEPIN
05-02-2008, 12:10 PM
Thanks for the idea. I've swapped springs a couple times now. With the 4.5 RK springs I didnt even need the compressor. Just took off the jks QD and disco'd the shox. Axle dropped just about to the floor and the springs popped in.

I'll throw up before and after once their on...

indy242003
05-02-2008, 05:52 PM
You should have let me know before you bought them. I have a set of 5.5" IRO coils on the shop bench. I could have hooked you up.

WJJEEPIN
05-02-2008, 06:02 PM
You should have let me know before you bought them. I have a set of 5.5" IRO coils on the shop bench. I could have hooked you up.


I'm still on short arms and didnt want to go to large while on them. This way I can get some more height for some 33's and doesnt mess up the angles too much. Then when I go LA I can rock that height also.

Talked to Josh and he warned against going much higher on short arms, he really didnt want to suggest the 5" but I have the ARB and it will take some out of the front height.

WJJEEPIN
05-05-2008, 04:19 PM
So I got the IRO 5" springs in. Getting faster at slapping them in. On the floor with just a jack, 1 stand and basic hand tools in under an hour.

Here are the pics for your viewing pleasure.

Rear Before w/ RK 4.5" springs & 2"spacer. (too much junk in the trunk)

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_0478.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_0478.jpg.html)

After w/ IRO 5"

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_0484.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_0484.jpg.html)

Front Before w/ RK 4.5" springs

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_0483.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_0483.jpg.html)

After / IRO 5"

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_1606.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_1606.jpg.html)

Here are the rear springs & JKS rear lowers. The IRO springs have about twice as many coils on the rears than the RK did....


http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_1605.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_1605.jpg.html)


Oh and 100TH post!!!! :smt026 :smt113

WJJEEPIN
05-05-2008, 04:35 PM
My new W2F gap is 22.5 all around. I am expecting a little sag in the front because of the ARB but these are brand new and they are holding nicely.

Now i need some 33's bad. But Im going to need some regearing as the 3.55 are going to BLOW with the 33's. I'm thinking 4.10 to keep the MPG relatively close to how I'm running it now. Its still my DD

Unless there are any suggestions out there for a different ratio. I am running the 4.0 with a ton of crap in the rig. The 31 MTRs are ok with the gearing, kinda lags on the uphill in the mountains.

Pitch
05-06-2008, 05:03 PM
Unless there are any suggestions out there for a different ratio. I am running the 4.0 with a ton of crap in the rig. The 31 MTRs are ok with the gearing, kinda lags on the uphill in the mountains.

4.56's without a doubt. Unless you like being passed by everything short of mopeds on a hill with your skinny 6.

IMO, 4.10's are an unnecessary step unless you are blessed with a V8.

WJJEEPIN
05-06-2008, 05:47 PM
4.56's without a doubt. Unless you like being passed by everything short of mopeds on a hill with your skinny 6.

IMO, 4.10's are an unnecessary step unless you are blessed with a V8.

Nope, not being passed by mopeds or anything. Its only in the mountains 4.5K + feet where it looses the pep. Around town and in the hills around sea level I get no lag at all.

My only problem with 4.56 is that it puts me at 2000 RPM at 60 MPH. Great if the vehicle becomes a secondary vehicle but as it looks now its a DD for a year to two years. And the 4.1 puts me at 67MPH at 2000RPM.

To me that spells OUCH at the pump. As it is I fill up my 20 GAL about once a week and fuel is at $4 for 87.

DerekL
05-07-2008, 12:32 AM
I like my stock gears with 265s at 70mph im at 2000 rpm getting about 16-17mpg on 89 and 13-14 on 87

WJJEEPIN
05-07-2008, 12:51 PM
I like my stock gears with 265s at 70mph im at 2000 rpm getting about 16-17mpg on 89 and 13-14 on 87

So I'm guessing you have the BFG At's and 3.73 gears. Correct?

That is just about the same as my 31's and 3.55 gears. Which leads me to believe that the next step up being 4.1 gears with 33's should be pretty. Plus I can do gears now since its upwards of 1K, it wont be too bad on gas temporarily and then get tires when the funds are there.

I have run the ratio calculators and for good torque and fuel looks like for the 33's the 4.1 is optimal, the 4.56 would be better for off road and I will go there but for now I'm looking at a dual purpose rig until I can afford another car.

Pitch
05-09-2008, 02:59 PM
Nope, not being passed by mopeds or anything. Its only in the mountains 4.5K + feet where it looses the pep. Around town and in the hills around sea level I get no lag at all.

My only problem with 4.56 is that it puts me at 2000 RPM at 60 MPH. Great if the vehicle becomes a secondary vehicle but as it looks now its a DD for a year to two years. And the 4.1 puts me at 67MPH at 2000RPM.

To me that spells OUCH at the pump. As it is I fill up my 20 GAL about once a week and fuel is at $4 for 87.

I will preface this with: My perspective is from 7,000 ft (elevation where I live), and generally at elevations above 4,500 ft here in AZ and UT.

To me, you will end up downshifting the engine more and revving it over 3K rpm for passing vehicles and on hills most of the time with the 4.10's. That will shoot your fuel economy in the foot and negate the benefits of the higher gearing. But if it is flat where you live and you can cruise at highway speeds with little need for fast acceleration, then go for the 4.10's. I feel the power benefits of deeper gears outweigh the ~.5mpg gained with taller gears.

WJJEEPIN
05-09-2008, 03:23 PM
I will preface this with: My perspective is from 7,000 ft (elevation where I live), and generally at elevations above 4,500 ft here in AZ and UT.

To me, you will end up downshifting the engine more and revving it over 3K rpm for passing vehicles and on hills most of the time with the 4.10's. That will shoot your fuel economy in the foot and negate the benefits of the higher gearing. But if it is flat where you live and you can cruise at highway speeds with little need for fast acceleration, then go for the 4.10's. I feel the power benefits of deeper gears outweigh the ~.5mpg gained with taller gears.

Thanks for the help. After thinking about it I agree. I also spoke with Arlo since we have the exact same drivetrain and he has the 4.56 and 33's and he agreed that while the 4.1 for flat fwy driving might be a hair better for all other aspects the 4.56 will be beneficial.

I just picked up a big bearing 31 spline 9 that will be delivered in the next week and I will be working on it over the next few months piecing together to eventually slap her in the dub. I'll be posting pix as I go along.

WJJEEPIN
05-20-2008, 06:41 PM
So after a week on the IRO 5" springs the rear started settled around 4" of lift and that wasnt even packed up with junk. So gave them a ring and they shipped me a set of rear 5.5" springs and its sitting solid!!!

My brother and I took my dad for his first wheeling mini trip to Hollister this past weekend and had a blast. He is HOOKED!!!!

It was this moment that really got him. it was a mini rock garden and ended with a steep downgrade. If you could see his face it was in shock, WIDE EYED and stiff as a board as he rolled down this incline. The pic doesn't do it justice.
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85287534469?pwd=d2hzaUZCenlQV3BoZXB1NkhrU05TUT09
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85287534469?pwd=d2hzaUZCenlQV3BoZXB1NkhrU05TUT09
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pe3OwO3PpvUYeS7UD8Jors4Nw_-eqyAVXdhkV8k5rf0fFAV9arbYhtFWBLAy4pidQ0dfp-wva4ncONVrO0OIZyrdomsULzZo7oxlGbaxaGBA3nLBM2lw0C8S 0dbwLQ7uQfnladzcow=w2400

Met up with a dude and his son, had a killer buggy on 44's. Followed them through the rock patch.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6enG48QwYRxoftbRcbhGXlBKDN_g_9i8C0YPx6xtdnDxC7Bimj I7gIldu7eFDE-Ap0dHkOLkph3R1-dK7HXu61forMpTMU3h2yc0OMyurIdh770WQoEa_MS8Tx8_vjt5 oHx85tFgVQ=w2400


Made it most of the way through when i heard a crunch and a loud hissing.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a19cdstlguHrPnf5IuHo8cjmMD7i81G4A1cCTufXrfCew7MdkX 6s6FaZrnB5PDFOyQaQ-zMWcOCclXq3OxmhhFsh3zhDo9zR1YpSic-bq9SAmuNMO01CTltUY7M3QLtKdV-8Yylbeg=w2400

Made it out of the patch and put on the fullsize spare and pounded the rim back into round and it now holds air again.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UwyDeReURCOigk5x4W2l9FfDke7me7W6y7Xn65S4gxlMNGJ8U3 ct1lnSisV_uxG5V374dIYyXaEBWgsbikZQz_1B0-Si8Qfkii2XyNcVOpTCB0PuywAeTON9GuGSH-IMz-F9QUNSRw=w2400

Also went up the stair step and on the way back down both my dad and brother started yelling at me to stop your leaking fluid badly. Shocked I hopped out and popped the hood. I didnt hit anything and there was no clunk so I assumed a hose failed. But all the hoses were in tact. I then remembered that in my laziness I still havent relocated the washer tank. The tire pulled the pumps from the housing. :-D
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9IUVSuxsGjxxm3m4TJjFrdkLrQvu2Lx1lE_ipa_axAuLgGbbno nxP9ds3nq1YRtBavzCElqsdpeHLhMiIHQ8QbbtZppt-YkuasQAH-nxQmISMiiY-nb10VTcO5kq9Kn-gWq-nlr-pg=w2400

I disconnected them, kept wheeling and put them back in today and they work fine. Its still on my todo list, just need to figure out where I can put her with the airaid intake kit as the filter is larger than the K&N.

WJJEEPIN
05-20-2008, 06:50 PM
After messing around in the obstacle course for a while we headed into the hills and went to the highest peak in Hollister. Cool trek with some cool views and steep drop offs on the side. The WJ started overheating by the top of the hill.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/EC7Jp2CeV09uGP05wArpcUKR9pcZTrfOcBfthgynRw6lkxXTDr jdlG3swHefqY80W9_15AIdGfhDyC98BXqWOG6YMv1oDd26DqQP vJOBQxql-pxBya7GiPXbSvZk4R_bY44KtRuOwQ=w2400



Overall a great time and now my dad is non stop bugging my mom for a jeep.:smt082

Still working on the 9" build checklist. I plan on breaking it down this weekend and cleaning it up so I can get all the measurements for the Disc break conversion.

I am thinking of skipping 33's and building it for 35's. Just need to convince the wife I need POS dd so the $4 a gallon doesnt run me into the poor house.

WJJEEPIN
05-24-2008, 01:04 PM
So here is how she started. The tag decoded let me know its from a late 70's F100 its a Big Bearing 31 spline and has 3.5 gears. I've decided to build it to run 35's and still take me to the mountains and to the trails and back. I was teetering between the Detroit and ARB and while I have heard great arguments for the Detroit, getting the ARB for the ability to have 100% street manners for only $200 more and running it off my CO2 tank just tits.


To Get for the 9":
4.88 Gears
ARB
Master install kit
Disc Break setup (going to try and get my WJ setup to work since I just redid them and have the disc redrilled)
Brackets and truss built and welded

To get for the D30
4.88 Gears
ARB
Master Install kit

Here is what she looked like when I got her.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/IMG_1241.jpg

last night I got my first chance to break her down and do some tagging/bagging and cleaning.
Big Style Old Bearing.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/IMG_1789.jpg

31 Spline looks a little worn
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/IMG_1793.jpg

Cleaned her up
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/IMG_1812.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/IMG_1813.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/IMG_1814.jpg

Ring looks good, too bad I'm not using it.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/IMG_1819.jpg


Ran out of time so I had to press pause. the Axle still needs to have the brackets cut off and hit the whole thing with a flap disc. I sprayed the axle with WD40 so hopefully no more rust till I get back to it.

WJJEEPIN
06-12-2008, 11:37 PM
So my dad has wanted a jeep for about 20 years now. My mom has been KILLING his dreams for a while. She said that she would think about it if my dad enjoyed hollister with us. So he was FIRED up and found a local TJ for sale.

Highlight Specs:
02 sport 30K mi Auto Tranny
4.56 gears
d30 ARB 30 spline superior axles
D44 Detroit 33 spline Superior Axles
35"MTR's
4.5"lift + 1" body spacer
SYE & DBL Carden rear shaft
Warn 8274 winch
Rear custom tire carrier

Parked next to the Dub makes her look stock. I have now driven it for the past two days and I am Stoked to the dub up with 35's..

Comparison Pix

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vG4VoLAJV-zhJoOOwureUQzO0ItH_1HjNYrY2q4K_EU7Mr2CBDHT2frhJ6rn 8ComHtnqxmq-hPwFiyq4pfjdLC4lkhmyklA_XjbtvUSJxqAP8g1gqYA_UPXem0 TVMfSJGTj6qNaQRA=w2400 (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_1919.jpg.html)

redline61
06-13-2008, 01:03 AM
Pretty nice TJ, I'm jealous.

cocheese
06-13-2008, 01:23 AM
thumbs up on the Pabst!:smt023 :smt023 :smt023

WJJEEPIN
06-13-2008, 05:19 PM
Pretty nice TJ, I'm jealous.

Me 2. I'm trying to talk him into leaving it at my house... :D



thumbs up on the Pabst!:smt023 :smt023 :smt023

How can you beat a tallboy for a dollar. IMO better tasting the Crud or Crudlight.

WJJEEPIN
07-06-2008, 12:31 PM
Its upside down but you can read the tag... High pinion third member from Currie. 4.88 Gears, Detroit locker and all buttoned up and ready to go. Now to rebuild the brakes and get the axle prepped for getting welded in.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0cYwbFDz_39hl-BEczjsnA2bJzPTJPR0RrpSlAfC9OfPYWE4ve0KO4J8b1HSWSxI _byTj3i49dj6FxI0y6KQ9utUGZciz9mxBs8GaUpVg_KimTXX5b Ijrr4adzw1529-mQ9k8K7CKA=w2400

AprilzWarrior
07-06-2008, 02:20 PM
Looking good.

SuicideTireZJ
07-07-2008, 01:56 PM
God does he get ANY airflow to the rad with that 8274 on there?

rradford9
07-07-2008, 10:53 PM
Its upside down but you can read the tag... High pinion third member from Currie. 4.88 Gears, Detroit locker and all buttoned up and ready to go. Now to rebuild the brakes and get the axle prepped for getting welded in.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Misc%20Jeep%20Pix/MALL%20CRAWLIN/HPIM0492.jpg


I thought you were going with teh ARB? Thats TITS though! How much did that cost you (if you dont mind sayin)? Any luck with the WJ brakes on the 9?

Aren't you jealous that your dad just went out and bought a turn key jeep that dwarfs yours...I wish my dad was like that!

Great build so far. Looking forward to the updates:best:

WJJEEPIN
07-08-2008, 10:46 AM
I thought you were going with teh ARB? Thats TITS though! How much did that cost you (if you dont mind sayin)? Any luck with the WJ brakes on the 9?

Aren't you jealous that your dad just went out and bought a turn key jeep that dwarfs yours...I wish my dad was like that!

Dont mind answering, he originally wanted $900 but I talked him down to $800. But its all set up with 4.86's good bearings and a Detroit. I have decided as a temporary solution I am going to use the drums to save some money and will look into discs down the road when I get some more funds.

Oh and hell yeah I am very jealous. But while he enjoys working on the rig with me he would really never do it without me. And this way he is ready for any trail we go to. Its already crossed the Rubicon a couple times so its very capable and perfect for him.

Yeah I would like an ARB but I've been drivin my dads TJ w/ detroit and its only really noticeable when punching it into a turn, plus I am working on the wife to let me get an old honda for my DD...

My plan is working to push the WJ to a toy status with 35's for weekends and trips to the mountains.






God does he get ANY airflow to the rad with that 8274 on there?

I've had no issues on road with it. It did get a bit warm when climbing to the top of Hollister with the A/C on.

But it doesnt have the stock fan on there. The previous owner put a mopar fan on the radiator. I want to get a low temp thermo and get a better fan controller so it goes on at a lower temp but that is in the works.

jsteves
07-08-2008, 10:58 AM
Great choice on the 9"...bad idea putting 4.88's into a d30. Personally, I never ran more than 4.10's in my 30 for fear of the tiny pinion teeth. My dad has run 4.56's in his without issues but 4.88 is really pushing it.

WJJEEPIN
07-08-2008, 07:16 PM
Great choice on the 9"...bad idea putting 4.88's into a d30. Personally, I never ran more than 4.10's in my 30 for fear of the tiny pinion teeth. My dad has run 4.56's in his without issues but 4.88 is really pushing it.

Interesting. Its temporary, until I can afford to start putting together another 9" for the front.

I dont beat on the WJ, for now its mostly a DD and will shift to secondary status in the next year. I have a line on a new ARB (old style, which I plan on securing the bolts) for only $250. That way I dont need a carrier. My plan is to run it that way with some 28 spline u joint shafts from the Dutchman. Treat it nice and only lock and crawl with it.

WJJEEPIN
08-04-2008, 05:59 PM
Found a local dude selling an Dana 30 ARB (RD30) he picked up for his rig but ended up blowing the diff before he got a chance to install so he went to Dynatrac 60's. It sat in his garage for a few years waiting for me.

I know its the older version but I will be applying loc-tite to the bolts for good measure. If it dies then it will be an even better excuse to the wife to get a better axle up there. :D

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NE0K_6JOwC9BIg4tM4zvtNUxLQEP97Q-uyENvSqkhDkn1MhXvwVfpLyWkZQuS8lQIxyKoGvtTLSC7J-MAa6pFKv4i_dWU-lSK6GymZht5jmzc2-MscB5QkCGUTWBntPnfnkoYKu6zg=w2400

Sorry for the crappy photos, it was a quick pic session before work. I will retake tonight when I get it all apart.

97 zj Steve
08-04-2008, 08:03 PM
nice wheelings pictures...looking good

WJJEEPIN
08-22-2008, 12:51 PM
So I needed to get the C02 relocated so i can have it run the front ARB I had to find a spot to get it standing and out of the way of the spare tire well as it now still holds the spare. I plan on raising the tank when doing the axle swap but for now its still in use.

So I pulled and sold the pocket.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_2609.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_2609.jpg.html)

Measured and cut so it fit right behind the wheel well. As you can see the handle at the top just barely touches the rear pillar.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HGvKXcQWaXPeKV6e5yunTqsg159SE_7BIWkWzdn9vCfIu13RRP Yr77L1LA_gdjO9fTtaGp7ziGV7_JWQHdTHY4PqZ_bjscDXQQA5 I6fg5zcDzEpuiDfOQvAQEsCKsT7LUf9hAjKUg=w2400

Fits just right and I even trimmed the rear cover to hide the sub.

(http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_2693.jpg.html)https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eo3dy6creukt1j_lnERaDT-psOzv81maW3PDpZNw9orhIWqXCDyxDpiMsVHrOqvIq0JK1sqmV TFwo-xphgo3QPePytGNEHkSLLoP9aAHbppaR-y23p_WoZmoAET083i4iuIuKla3Zg=w2400

Now i have room for the custom sub box I am putting together to really open up my trunk space.

WJJEEPIN
09-26-2008, 06:53 PM
Project update:

The pile of parts begins to grow. So I was getting really tired of the bumpy ride but the $1200 needed to get the Clayton Long Arms for the front and installed was too big a jump for now. So I started talking to IRO and they custom built me some "High Clearance" long arms for the front of the Dub.

I know people are not huge fans and I'm not going to argue that Claytons is not superior but this setup is MAD BEEF, only $500, free shipping, DIY install and I'm on LA in the front. They are a large straight lower arms with fixed uppers and laser cut plate as a brace. I had to trim the OEM lower mounts but I'm way past going back to stock.

Set of Dutchman front chromo U's for the front.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4pWWOjnWB9QaPKaQW_v9CDehdhbMrHBxrEOfZXF_9Cv3hlOdHx I0eznA66U_Kv2DNivQafZwdOjvXdUXvdu5aIN0_YY66g0Fu6yh 9WytkWGX9oYJt3Vm4dKK_VG2XUym2NZAqQkJ0A=w2400

I picked up a set of 12" travel rear Bils off Amazon for only $80 and got free shipping.... :eek:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_2957.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_2957.jpg.html)

Took a few of the 9" parts to the local machine shop pulled bearings off and cleaned the rear shafts and backing plates, sandblasted the drums and resurfaced them.

Birthday just passed and got D30 R&P (from gma)/ Master install (from wife)/ Truspeed Speedo Corrector (from padres). Have a family party Sunday so crossing my fingers for some fundage.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/k_s8WFs5yKetctU78SDE0Zhy7Jp9KHvhH69v1iSiuupjp_1pb0 aE8uKTUHBzldm87i3u0d2RbkgeA7vayGTaJ2Tv5GMzNj5yIvnE tOmKNyLiGpomRJyg11YB5QQ9921ZJO5-A8XZHw=w2400


Just got off the phone with Currie and ordered the new bearings/seals and drum rebuild and seal kit for the 3rd member.

Just need to strip and clean the 9". Redrill the drums and shafts to 5x5. Once its in I will be working on making the D35 breaks work with the 9" till then the drums will suffice.

I think I'll be making an appointment with http://www.westcoastfab.com/ in January to get er all welded up. Pics to follow.

kyle95sr5
09-27-2008, 02:15 PM
Been following your build for quite awhile now. Looks really good man! Very similar to mine. I like how your on a budget and not just throwing out money like alot of people on here. Do you know if IRO is planning on "mass producing" their High Clearance LA? I think they offer them with their axle swaps but haven't seen or heard of them offering them up to just anyone.

WJJEEPIN
09-27-2008, 05:17 PM
Been following your build for quite awhile now. Looks really good man! Very similar to mine. I like how your on a budget and not just throwing out money like alot of people on here. Do you know if IRO is planning on "mass producing" their High Clearance LA? I think they offer them with their axle swaps but haven't seen or heard of them offering them up to just anyone.


Thanks. That has been my goal to make a capable rig by finding the best hookups I could.

Dont know about mass production but I got mine in 3 weeks. As far as I know they are available on a request basis only now. Well worth it. Talk to Josh tell him Will sent you and he can talk about what are your plans for your rig and help suggest some thoughts for a setup. I am going to 35's so I had him make the arms longer to clear the tires.

WJJEEPIN
10-17-2008, 12:06 PM
Drums Rebuilt! I know disc's are better but for $120 I cleaned, painted and rebuilt the drums. If they can stop a fully loaded f150 they should be able to take care of my wj for a while till I can save up some funds for the discs.

Before:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/IMG_2960.jpg
After:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/IMG_3100.jpg

I didnt take a pic of the drum itself but it was completely covered with grease rust grime and old paint. Here it is after sandblasting turning and a fresh coat of paint.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/IMG_3099.jpg

Time to strip, clean and paint the axle and then off to my buddy to weld her in. Likely still after xmas but getting close.

I still need:
-Rims
-Tires
-E-brake cable
-Run Abs/Tone Ring wires to front
-Get tone rings milled and pressed on new u-joint axles
-Get ARB and gears installed

AprilzWarrior
10-19-2008, 12:37 AM
Project update:

The pile of parts begins to grow. So I was getting really tired of the bumpy ride but the $1200 needed to get the Clayton Long Arms for the front and installed was too big a jump for now. So I started talking to IRO and they custom built me some "High Clearance" long arms for the front of the Dub.

I know people are not huge fans and I'm not going to argue that Claytons is not superior but this setup is MAD BEEF, only $500, free shipping, DIY install and I'm on LA in the front. They are a large straight lower arms with fixed uppers and laser cut plate as a brace. I had to trim the OEM lower mounts but I'm way past going back to stock.


install pics ?

WJJEEPIN
10-19-2008, 12:40 PM
As requested:

Here is the Passenger Side:



I have read another complaint that you need a t-case spacer. Not ture only the 1/4" plate that goes under the crossmember.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/99_BXXTuPY1_FN6IUUiZVqNcB1gfSR8QErYthPEfHJsUcqlGZ6 b9dEcapULLRGbAXaoBPKr18D6FbetQgqYJp_wBbR78rvTZPEyP Z9xeNsHp7IeFmmrbgWq62vGcurKySfJWUKMpHw=w2400

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5OCxd8FRhfEQ541yiXtgz7AAGkL0TTsxGSxFPr0OTqmEl2jLlO YWD1JOi-qAWtmz1EydgICWxqEOlj1bYEtTDFNc6zQXxPA1AJSGoYcK8HrL f9D13Yv2XronhLBq73uulDEpzgR6RQ=w2400

WJJEEPIN
10-19-2008, 12:41 PM
Here is their Iron Y now with serious plate
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tfJzR6V82JOykfdUF48mh52zPNoZSOaygZ8EkNeX1b96Epa472 wELFElODc_QshZ_zJbbdxXgjQU_LuWulsAfg2hEEGCurLbYdFz rXDBP7HVsUE356xnigGmP_Km7IoGoDmeZWSPvw=w2400

Driver side arm
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/DI4UEuuu4T4UoxZYMMzMSnGXZdW10Mt05K44MPBuM1qlltgfbu bu_CtEBqXnpNk7hsP_Z9Soqd7l2RwDfGL64omta0QzCxOw7jlV N_S6b8CBSpITmCWdoctnZPKQ1ovtK0GNq_qZ6w=w2400
https://photos.app.goo.gl/CpfFicPrgt9qxz2J7

Side shot to show clearance

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kDIvL0ridRIAhY6bJfHK9roUU_lJOAs3cRiOI4FoVlbzcnf7HS 8P2XOw4UjhxmtdjxX-nEWqfD4F214mxRTOWupJyLrzmU3u6nhu-LwTPkYO9KvZweqZUglu_IdoDGEUVIVB3s_JPA=w2400 (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_3113.jpg.html)

AprilzWarrior
10-19-2008, 02:50 PM
I dont see anything wrong with that, looks good. But Id still weld it down !

WJJEEPIN
10-19-2008, 05:15 PM
I dont see anything wrong with that, looks good. But Id still weld it down !


That is in the plans. I also want to build a cross-member and intigrate a hevy duty skid that attaches to a second rear cross-member.

kyle95sr5
10-21-2008, 02:53 PM
Flex pictures?

WJJEEPIN
10-21-2008, 02:57 PM
Flex pictures?


I have had 0 time to play. I have scheduled a weekend to hit up South Shore and wheel on the 16th of Nov. So once I go out I will def throw up some pix. I've been looking for a place to do a poser flex but nothing yet.

Shinobi
10-23-2008, 07:00 PM
love ur jeep man keep it up :)

WJJEEPIN
10-23-2008, 07:05 PM
Thanks man.

Just installed the fiberglass/MDF sub box in the left corner. Paid $165 shipped... :D
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_4979.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_4979.jpg.html)

Much more usable trunk space
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_4980.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_4980.jpg.html)

It went a little high I ghetto rigged the cargo cover to keep it all hidden. ;)
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_4981.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_4981.jpg.html)

And an new pic with the full IRO 5.5" springs sitting in front of work.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_4978.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/IMG_4978.jpg.html)

MuddyV8ZJ
11-18-2008, 09:26 PM
I hate you. The more I see your rig the more I want to build mine!
Lookin' good bud. Hopefully we can have the rigs together in the same part of the state at some point. It'll probably require one of us moving... but then we'd be wrenching partners again!

WJJEEPIN
11-18-2008, 09:49 PM
I hate you. The more I see your rig the more I want to build mine!
Lookin' good bud. Hopefully we can have the rigs together in the same part of the state at some point. It'll probably require one of us moving... but then we'd be wrenching partners again!


Then I vote for you to make my dub your desktop background... :D

Or when you pony up for a tow rig for your race car, then you can tow that bitch up here.. ;)

Regardless, I look forward to that day bud.

MuddyV8ZJ
11-19-2008, 02:53 AM
Then I vote for you to make my dub your desktop background... :D

Or when you pony up for a tow rig for your race car, then you can tow that bitch up here.. ;)

Regardless, I look forward to that day bud.

Hmm... what's the tow capacity of a 5.9?

A supercharged 'niner would certainly get the job done, I would think!

I'd love a 5.9 for a street jeep/tow rig... *starts saving*

WJJEEPIN
12-09-2008, 09:36 PM
Word up all. So I didnt get to go to the mountains for a weekend of wheeling over Turkey day weekend but I did get to go play for the day at Hollister Hills. Nothing extreme, just some fun watching my dads jeep kill it. here are some photos.

Flex test. Still not flexed out completely. And need a little longer shox to maximize it.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Hollister%20Nov%2008/aug-nov282.jpg

Little playing int he rocks
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Hollister%20Nov%2008/aug-nov308.jpg

Pops let me play with his jeep on the rock ledge.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Hollister%20Nov%2008/aug-nov253.jpg

Little flex from the TJ. I keep telling him he needs to LA that thing.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Hollister%20Nov%2008/aug-nov264.jpg

And his TJ killing the mud pit.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Hollister%20Nov%2008/aug-nov227.jpg

WJJEEPIN
01-04-2009, 02:37 AM
Stripped and painted. Hit it with a flat black, i will finalize it with a gloss to finish it but this is to make sure its clean and rust free.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Tnevmyi3QCO3P3rnagk4bookm0CSLT4SyiAov7mFNpD2rSjfxn d8MXzH01fznVCEiNe-tPjmIgFCIY3o_f1eFjARTKFwLajOvxsKpadsVeHzVd74Kt5TZH XwaWcS-sPoTRxRtt77jg=w2400

SirFuego
01-04-2009, 03:40 AM
That is a spiffy build up. Good night, sir.
(http://www.mallcrawlin.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=228117)

WJJEEPIN
01-04-2009, 03:15 PM
Thanks, not going as fast as I would have liked, but not bad with a toddler, mortgage and a pregnant wife. :rolleyes:

Now that I have a new POS dd I can really start to tear into the jeep. I am going to see if I can get the wj brakes onto the 9".

If anyone has redone their wj rear brakes and can toss me their used rotor let me know.

PassRunnerZJ
01-04-2009, 10:37 PM
You should be able to use 8.8 brake rotors, brackets, and the like so unless you want to fab more up, I would go that route.

Are you ditching the ABS?

WJJEEPIN
01-04-2009, 10:52 PM
You should be able to use 8.8 brake rotors, brackets, and the like so unless you want to fab more up, I would go that route.

Are you ditching the ABS?


I have the old style large bearing which means its a different bolt pattern to the axle housing. I can have the holes welded up and redrilled to the 8.8/torrino style but then I have to buy the break stuff after all that.

Whereas I recently upgraded the rear brakes on my dub and have all the pieces which will allow me to not have to bleed the brakes, not have to replace the ebrake cable and not have to worry about break balance from front to rear. If Im going to fab something Im thinking fab for what I have so I can save some dough. But again I just got my vw running so I havent even pulled it the wj rears to see what its going to need.

Ill start posting pics as I start working towards it.

WJJEEPIN
01-04-2009, 10:53 PM
Oh and ditching the the ABS but rewiring the rear tone rings to the front to keep the speedo. ;)

PassRunnerZJ
01-04-2009, 11:14 PM
See if the TJ rear 44 caliper bracket will work with the WJ rear cliper and then see if it can be worked onto the 9. I used them on my 44 to keep the rear disks and modified it for the ABS sensors. My brother found this worked when he upgraded his XJ 44 to disks from my old 35.

WJJEEPIN
01-04-2009, 11:45 PM
See if the TJ rear 44 caliper bracket will work with the WJ rear cliper and then see if it can be worked onto the 9. I used them on my 44 to keep the rear disks and modified it for the ABS sensors. My brother found this worked when he upgraded his XJ 44 to disks from my old 35.

I will take a look into that.

If I read that correctly the problem is the ABS on the WJ is via a tone ring that is pressed onto the wj shaft that does both speed and abs and work on the 9" shaft. All I have to do to keep the speedo is run a couple wires to trick the system to check the front only and not the rear.

froggo27
01-05-2009, 12:02 AM
Nice WJ, hows the street ride with those LA?

WJJEEPIN
01-05-2009, 12:18 AM
Nice WJ, hows the street ride with those LA?

Thx. It rides Great. I have RE TT shox which are really stiff and were killing me pre LA. Once I added the LA's it became really smooth in comarison. Once I have the 35's on it and can figure out my uptravel I will be getting some long travel Bils shox which will make it butter.

I will mention I do have bumpsteer, though its from flipping the Drag link and I had it prior to the LA's. Its less now but probably wont go away till I build the custom 9" front after I toast the 30. :D

WJJEEPIN
01-08-2009, 07:59 PM
Holy Money Pit Bat Man!

Had some spare time at work so I did an excel sheet listing prices and Items on everything I have on/in the jeep now, from roof rack, to arb bumper, to upgraded brake rotors and then a second grid on all the parts that I have to go into the upgrade to the 9" axle swap and related parts to run 35's. Shipping/my labor not included. Too Scary.

death-mobile
03-24-2009, 11:42 AM
...are you still planning on a 9" for the front axle? I'm going to end up putting a 9" in the rear, but I'm seriously contemplating IROs D44 front axle. For the price, it's a pretty good deal. For me, I wouldn't be worried about wheeling with 35's on that axle. 4.10's suck, but it could easily be swapped out down the road.

WJJEEPIN
03-24-2009, 12:58 PM
...are you still planning on a 9" for the front axle? I'm going to end up putting a 9" in the rear, but I'm seriously contemplating IROs D44 front axle. For the price, it's a pretty good deal. For me, I wouldn't be worried about wheeling with 35's on that axle. 4.10's suck, but it could easily be swapped out down the road.

Hey DM.,
Yup, still putting in the 9". I am done collecting parts for both the front and rear axles. I had IRO make me a set of HD 1/4 brackets and spring pads. So all I need to do is get it welded in and get the rims for my 35's. But they had cutbacks at my job and I was one of the casualties so the swap is paused. I've been quoted anywhere from $500 to $1000 to have it welded, trussed and out the door.

I'm going back and forth on the front 9" vs the jk44 front. If I were to do the 9" I would probably get the JK outters to maintain the speed sensor. So when I get there I will go with what makes sense for the wallet. :)

From what I have heard from a few different sources the control arms will just bolt up, its the track bar that is the issue in that swap. So on the cheap you could get the axle for cheap used or from online and probably just source the brackets from IRO to get it buttoned up.

Let me know when you start to work on the 9". I might be able to throw some time saving advice your way.

death-mobile
03-25-2009, 07:08 AM
From what I have heard from a few different sources the control arms will just bolt up, its the track bar that is the issue in that swap. So on the cheap you could get the axle for cheap used or from online and probably just source the brackets from IRO to get it buttoned up.

Let me know when you start to work on the 9". I might be able to throw some time saving advice your way.

Are you speaking of the 44 or the 9? Are you getting a HP9 for the front?
I have much research to do on axle swaps for a WJ still. I'm thinking about making it a long running project, since I'll be hunting junkyards for either HP44/9 combo, or 9/9 combo. I actually haven't dismissed a HP44/44 combo.

I'm going to have a couple of dollars to do some work, but I'm thinking about doing a full clayton hard arm kit, and then just do some fab work on the stock axles for the time being. I honestly haven't been wheeling much, and the ride quality is just crap being at 5.5" with short arms. It's a toughness vs. ride quality right now. The money I'd spend on upgraded axles vs. a claytons kit is pretty comparable. The only reason I'm thinking about the axle swap first is the damn ball joints on a D30 with 33's. SLOP!

WJJEEPIN
03-25-2009, 10:24 AM
Are you speaking of the 44 or the 9? Are you getting a HP9 for the front?
I have much research to do on axle swaps for a WJ still. I'm thinking about making it a long running project, since I'll be hunting junkyards for either HP44/9 combo, or 9/9 combo. I actually haven't dismissed a HP44/44 combo.

I'm going to have a couple of dollars to do some work, but I'm thinking about doing a full clayton hard arm kit, and then just do some fab work on the stock axles for the time being. I honestly haven't been wheeling much, and the ride quality is just crap being at 5.5" with short arms. It's a toughness vs. ride quality right now. The money I'd spend on upgraded axles vs. a claytons kit is pretty comparable. The only reason I'm thinking about the axle swap first is the damn ball joints on a D30 with 33's. SLOP!

Yeah the 5"+ on short arms is a tad harsh, if you upgrade shox it would be a little nicer ride. Ball joints arent a hard fix, just time. I'd do axles first as you can wheel with the short arms fine.

Im referring to the JK44 from the factory. From what I have heard from a few sources the LCA and UCA are bolt in. Dont quote me on it as I dont have first hand experience. So all you would need is to work out the trackbar.

You mentioned a 9/9 combo from the junkyard. Just making sure you know the 9" never came in a front application, its a 100% custom application. Though the 44/9 is a perfect combo for the wj. The only reason I am thinking of the JK44 vs a junkyard late 70's 44 is the ability to keep the speedo censors on the shafts rather than deal with a sye. And the ability to get it done and ready to go from IRO makes it easy. If I had access to welding equipment my feelings would be differnt.

The hp44/44 is great too and a AL44 is bolt in and you can get lockers and add a junkyard 44 up front and your pretty solid for 35's. Just for ease an AL44 is a GREAT swap for the D35. All it needs is gears and skid/truss which is way cheaper than having to deal with all the bracketry and welding time.

death-mobile
03-25-2009, 11:00 AM
I did know the front 9 would be a custom job. I'm still torn between which mod to do next. My girlfriend drives my jeep to work 40 miles each way, 4 days a week...so the ride quality of a claytons kit would be HUGE difference vs. upgrading axles.

The kit from IRO for the 44 seems pretty good. I wouldn't have them do any work really, just get the bare axle and brackets...weld it up myself and add gears...although workwise, it's tempting to have them do everything and just spend the loot.

WJJEEPIN
03-25-2009, 11:04 AM
I did know the front 9 would be a custom job. I'm still torn between which mod to do next. My girlfriend drives my jeep to work 40 miles each way, 4 days a week...so the ride quality of a claytons kit would be HUGE difference vs. upgrading axles.

The kit from IRO for the 44 seems pretty good. I wouldn't have them do any work really, just get the bare axle and brackets...weld it up myself and add gears...although workwise, it's tempting to have them do everything and just spend the loot.

Well if you can weld, then claytons as a first step is a good one. Get it a nice ride and meanwhile look for an AL44 to replace the 35. then rock it on 33's till something pops and swap the 30 out when it does.

death-mobile
03-25-2009, 11:18 AM
that sounds like an excellent plan. time to start browsing the clayton build threads now :-D

WJJEEPIN
03-25-2009, 11:21 AM
that sounds like an excellent plan. time to start browsing the clayton build threads now :-D

Glad I could be of help. You have a big leg up since you can weld. I would have had this swap done months ago if I had welding equipment.

lakailimited06
03-25-2009, 01:02 PM
ive been debating and im still debating between working on an 8.8, or just looking for a good deal on an AL44..DM how is the 35 and stock gears holding up on 33's? unless you regeared?

death-mobile
03-25-2009, 01:03 PM
it's fine, i built the trans to compensate. if the trans was stock..ehhh...i wouldn't be able to deal with it around town

WJJEEPIN
03-25-2009, 01:05 PM
it's fine, i built the trans to compensate. if the trans was stock..ehhh...i wouldn't be able to deal with it around town

You have the v8 though?

death-mobile
03-25-2009, 01:28 PM
nope, I6. 3.55s and 33x12.5s

manually shifting gears up or down to go up hills or pull out from a lot allows me to feel fast :driving:

WJJEEPIN
03-25-2009, 01:50 PM
nope, I6. 3.55s and 33x12.5s

manually shifting gears up or down to go up hills or pull out from a lot allows me to feel fast :driving:

Interesting. When my tranny blows I'll ping you on the list of parts I need to beef it up... My 3.55 gears are suitable for street and fwy, though in the mountain passes it lacks the push. 4LO is good but could be lower. My 31's with my factory speedo gears are dead on. So the 4.1 with your 33's will be nice and low and wold be able to spin the 35's you were mentioning, at least till you regear...

lakailimited06
03-25-2009, 05:19 PM
will, sorry to jack your build thread, you think the AL44 is a better route to go if i just plan on running 33's..im still debating 4:10s or 4:56s but ill decide that when the time comes, thats the reason i was gonna go all out on the 8.8 cause you can save money on gears and find one with discs and 4:10s..

my fronts already locked so i wouldnt want a DD with two auto lockers in it, the 8.8 has much more aftermarket support...

what doyou think

WJJEEPIN
03-25-2009, 10:35 PM
will, sorry to jack your build thread, you think the AL44 is a better route to go if i just plan on running 33's..im still debating 4:10s or 4:56s but ill decide that when the time comes, thats the reason i was gonna go all out on the 8.8 cause you can save money on gears and find one with discs and 4:10s..

my fronts already locked so i wouldnt want a DD with two auto lockers in it, the 8.8 has much more aftermarket support...

what doyou think

Hey lakai
No worries. Well for ease of install and to run 33-35's the al44 is a great choice. No welding needed to get on the road and everything matches and bolts up. Only thing u really need is a skid/truss. Gears and lockers are limited but with 33's & 4.56 is a good matchup. As for auto
locker it would be fine in the rear and not as noticaBle as in the front. U have a 242 tcase right? Plus when u regear you can upgrade the front locker. And u can get lower gearing from the t case if so desired.

lakailimited06
03-25-2009, 10:57 PM
Hey lakai
No worries. Well for ease of install and to run 33-35's the al44 is a great choice. No welding needed to get on the road and everything matches and bolts up. Only thing u really need is a skid/truss. Gears and lockers are limited but with 33's & 4.56 is a good matchup. As for auto
locker it would be fine in the rear and not as noticaBle as in the front. U have a 242 tcase right? Plus when u regear you can upgrade the front locker. And u can get lower gearing from the t case if so desired.

waht do you mean by upgrade the front locker?

WJJEEPIN
03-25-2009, 11:10 PM
waht do you mean by upgrade the front locker?

I mean you will eventually upgrade your gears. At that point you can upgrade your front to selectable locker since uprobably have 3.55 gears and will need a new carrier For the larger gears.

WJJEEPIN
07-14-2009, 10:52 PM
Whats up FOLKS!! Its been a while since i've been on here. After I lost my job I started grinding on everything else but the jeep. So I did some real estate in the interim and was able to sell a property in Palo Alto and am close to selling one in Daily City. So this along with a new job at Wells Fargo has allowed me to get back to the jeep.

Sunday the 5th I dropped everything off at Comberson's Toy Shop to get the 9" all welded up. and the ARB and new gears in the Dub.

Pics:
On the Rack
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/DSC_0126.jpg

New diff cover and you can see the Blue line on top...
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/DSC_0127.jpg

All welded up and in place with brakes:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/DSC_0131.jpg

Upper A Arm all hooked up
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/DSC_0134.jpg

TSM Brakes and CPP Caddi Calipurs
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/DSC_0135.jpg

WJJEEPIN
07-17-2009, 11:56 PM
Here are a couple Iphone Pix. I went by and its all together and rolling around, just needs to do a final check be4 he hands it back. I will be picking it up tomorrow. SO FREEKING ANXIOUS!!!

Front
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/IMG_0004.jpg

Back
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/IMG_0005.jpg

Left to do:
Rewire rear speedo wires to front DONE
Wire and dial in Superlift Speedo Adjuster DONE
ARB compressor for front ARB. DONE
Cut Fenders DONE
Install Alloy USA D30 seals
p/u 5th rim for spare

Take it out and Wheel the PISS out of it. :D

Jeeperoni91
07-18-2009, 12:53 AM
damn!

WJJEEPIN
07-18-2009, 12:51 PM
damn!

My sentiments exactly. Should be picking it up in the next couple hours. Ill post some better pix.

WJJEEPIN
07-19-2009, 01:06 AM
Got her home. Didnt have time to flex it out on his RTI ramp. Will go back in a couple weeks to double check the bolts on everything and hopefully get up on the ramp.

Here she sits in my driveway. Do you think my wife would be mad if I decided to sleep in the jeep tonight???

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/DSC_0169.jpg

The Axles

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/DSC_0171.jpg


How far they stick out.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Ford%209/DSC_0174.jpg

WJJEEPIN
07-19-2009, 03:16 PM
First driving impressions.

I enjoy the 4.88's, they actually make it drive like it did with 29" tires, maybe a hair more torque but more or less the same. I'm getting some vibes from the rear end and I believe its u joints or the shaft. I am hearing some weird ticking at parking lot speeds from the locker as I dont believe its engaged. I can gas it in a turn and the tires dont always chirp. And to add a degree of fun when i hit the brakes the ticking stops, I am guessing because the torque is off the locker. I will post this in the tech section to see if anyone has any experience with this problem.

faststang1
07-19-2009, 04:56 PM
Ur WJ looks badass!!!!!!!
I want ur Hp9!!!!!!!!

wjcando
08-02-2009, 02:23 AM
Set of Dutchman front chromo U's for the front.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Misc%20Jeep%20Pix/MALL%20CRAWLIN/IMG_2952.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Misc%20Jeep%20Pix/MALL%20CRAWLIN/IMG_2953.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Misc%20Jeep%20Pix/MALL%20CRAWLIN/IMG_2951.jpg




Does Dutchman offer that as a standard product now, or did you scrounge up parts and have them build the custom inner shaft? Looks like you pulled the inners from salvage maybe.

NIK5.9
08-02-2009, 03:10 AM
I believe they are dutchman inner shafts and used XJ outer shafts.

As for the dutchman shafts, I know they used to produce them, not sure if they still make them.

WJJEEPIN
08-02-2009, 01:34 PM
Does Dutchman offer that as a standard product now, or did you scrounge up parts and have them build the custom inner shaft? Looks like you pulled the inners from salvage maybe.

As far as I know they never offered them as a standard product. Its a cutsom cut shaft and ships pretty quick.

So they started life as chromo D44 inner shafts and they mill them down to work with the wj length and center section. Just specify what ujoint size your using and they will work with you. I posted the price I paid 6 or 8 months ago.

I got all my info from this thread:

http://www.mallcrawlin.com/forum//showthread.php?t=9323

Let me know if you have any more questions.

Best,

Shinobi
08-05-2009, 12:24 AM
sweet dude its looking like a bad ass now !!! Lets go wheeling @ Starberry or deer valley I promise I won't bail this time !!

WJJEEPIN
09-24-2009, 11:34 PM
WTF..... I'm 30 today!!! Happy bday 2 me.

FortCollinsZJ
09-24-2009, 11:43 PM
Happy B-day to YOU!

WJJEEPIN
11-04-2009, 01:57 AM
So wife was watching "so you think you can dance"....

Yeah I ummmmm have something i need to do. And I rolled outside and finished bolting in the pump.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/ARB/IMG_5320.jpg

And have enough room to pull or swap shox w/o pulling the pump.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/ARB/IMG_5322.jpg

WJJEEPIN
11-05-2009, 12:38 AM
Hit 150K but was on the FWY so couldnt get a good pic. So pulled into the driveway and saw this. Must be good luck.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/photo-1.jpg

WJJEEPIN
11-14-2009, 07:37 PM
Sup all

got to trimming the fenders today, so I can start actually flexing the rig. Once I'm don I'm gonna take it to my buddies shop to hit up his RTI.

I am working with IRO to get rear LA for the rig. Should have it in the next few weeks then off to hollister for a shakedown run. Then hopefully up to tahoe for a real wheeling trip. Man it's been a while, having the second baby has REALLY cut into jeep time

Here is the preliminary pic before I go back with a fringed to clean it up. I have been using a angle grinder and jig saw. Both work but I'm going to get pops sawzall to do the rest. Probably would be easier if I had the tire off but time is short.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/photo.jpg

WJJEEPIN
11-22-2009, 12:44 AM
Hello,

Finally got my ass back to the shop and flexed out the rig. Felt good to get it up on the RTI and see what it can do. I definately learned I NEED bump stops. I could have maxed out the RTI but the tires were into the fenders.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/DSC_0216.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/DSC_0216.jpg.html)

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/DSC_0217.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/DSC_0217.jpg.html)

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/DSC_0215.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/DSC_0215.jpg.html)

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/MALL CRAWLIN/DSC_0213.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/btwnmak/media/MALL CRAWLIN/DSC_0213.jpg.html)

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
11-22-2009, 12:56 AM
How wide are those wheels?

WJJEEPIN
11-22-2009, 01:05 AM
How wide are those wheels?

10" wide and I believe 3.75 BS.

Shinobi
11-22-2009, 02:36 AM
dude that looks sick !!! and thats some damn good flex for SA in the Rear :D

WJJEEPIN
11-22-2009, 02:43 AM
dude that looks sick !!! and thats some damn good flex for SA in the Rear :D

Thanks man, urs too. Im working with IRO now to get some LA for the rear and some bump stops and I will be back to max out the RTI.. ;)

lakailimited06
11-22-2009, 01:41 PM
damnnn will looking good...random question, are the dutchman u joint shafts noisy at all?

WJJEEPIN
11-27-2009, 03:21 PM
damnnn will looking good...random question, are the dutchman u joint shafts noisy at all?

Na, just some vibes in hard turns. I probably wouldnt notice since my rear end is NOISY... I need to rebuild the CHP.

Jeeptech01
12-23-2009, 05:32 PM
Are you still happy with the iro tierod flip? IIRC you can run that without flipping the dl right? Its been a while since I read your build and I cant remember your reason for flipping it. Tks

WJJEEPIN
12-29-2009, 01:46 AM
Are you still happy with the iro tierod flip? IIRC you can run that without flipping the dl right? Its been a while since I read your build and I cant remember your reason for flipping it. Tks

Sorry for the lag. Yup still loving the IRO Flip. I didnt need to flip the DL but did so for the extra travel and I had some rubbing on the TRE so I flipped the DL.

Just got the Rear LA in the mail. :smt041

Should have the install this weekend and a long awaited wheeling trip.

Jeeptech01
12-29-2009, 08:54 AM
Cool dont forget to post some pics! The rubbing on the tre was from the iro kit or b/c the tre was out of travel and the ball was rubbing the edge of the socket?

WJJEEPIN
12-30-2009, 12:45 AM
Cool dont forget to post some pics! The rubbing on the tre was from the iro kit or b/c the tre was out of travel and the ball was rubbing the edge of the socket?

Will do. I am doing a beta test on these so there will be a writeup in the next few weeks with pix.

The rubbing was because my tre was shot and had too much play. I figured I would flip it at the same time. Looking back I would not have flipped it, in theory I would have a little less bump steer, but its all good I am on 35's and 6".

MoparBoy01
12-30-2009, 04:51 AM
Nice looking WJ, love those wheels, I need to pick some up for my ZJ, nice work

Jeeptech01
12-30-2009, 08:48 AM
Will do. I am doing a beta test on these so there will be a writeup in the next few weeks with pix.

The rubbing was because my tre was shot and had too much play. I figured I would flip it at the same time. Looking back I would not have flipped it, in theory I would have a little less bump steer, but its all good I am on 35's and 6".


Yea with that lift height I would assume its a good idea to flip the dl anyway. Thanks for answering all my ?'s.

WJJEEPIN
04-10-2010, 12:34 PM
Sup all,

So I have been busy, work, 2 kids, wife and Jeep have take up most of my time. I have been working with Iron Rock Off Road on a beta test of their NEW rear long arm setup. It is a fully adjustable high clearance lower Control Arm. It also has an adjustable upper A-Arm at the axle side with a Rubicon Express end. Now for some pics.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/DSC_0005.jpg

As a side note, these arms are the correct bend but I accidentally received the ZJ ones which were backwards from the WJ ones. On the WJ the RE end is on the axle side but the adjustable end is on the frame side.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/DSC_0002.jpg


Started to install at pops house but after installing one bracket and trying to install the arms realized something was not correct. Luckily Josh was there on Saturday and we figured out that I had the wrong arms. :) So put it back together and they shipped out the WJ arms.

Here are a couple of the initial pics from pops house. I have the Rocky Road Sliders, which are stellar. But wont work with the IRO brackets. Not sure about Kevins sliders so that is something to take into consideration when talking to IRO about the upgrade.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/100_0626.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/100_0627.jpg

I had to pull the sliders. I am working on them now to get them re installed.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/100_0630.jpg

WJJEEPIN
04-10-2010, 12:54 PM
So pulled the bracket and went home. Restarting back at home, in the carport, with the correct arms.

Bracket on the driver side all bolted up.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/IMG_5747.jpg

On the passenger side you will need to cut the exhaust before installing the bracket. So I would suggest checking out the exhaust people in your area before you start and have an appointment because its LOUD w/o a muffler.

Having no power in the carports I had to be a little ingenious.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/IMG_5721.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/IMG_5723.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/IMG_5724.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/IMG_5725.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/IMG_5726.jpg

death-mobile
04-10-2010, 12:58 PM
I wonder how the rear A-arm style set up IRO uses compares to claytons. It would be neat to use claytons front arm setup with this IRO rear set-up.

WJJEEPIN
04-10-2010, 01:29 PM
Here is the passenger side to show clearance.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/IMG_5728.jpg

Installed the lowers and was installing the brackets for the upper A arm.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/IMG_5757.jpg

After looking at the pics I realized I am an idiot and had the arms in upside down and backwards.

I pulled the spring and checked for bumpstops.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/IMG_5759.jpg

I pushed it back too far and realized I need to raise the tank.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/IRO%20LA%20Issues/IMG_5761.jpg

I have the Currie High Pinion so I will have to trim a bit from the bracing to maximize uptravel.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/IRO%20LA%20Issues/IMG_0233.jpg

The mount I had designed originally for the upper factory A-Arm was 1/4" plate but with the new geometry forced the most outer edge down towards the pinion. So I am having it reworked. I will have more pics in the next couple days.

WJJEEPIN
04-10-2010, 01:34 PM
I wonder how the rear A-arm style set up IRO uses compares to claytons. It would be neat to use claytons front arm setup with this IRO rear set-up.

Well the lack of side to side adjustment is the main difference. There are two holes you could shift it to the left or right. But its not minute adjustment.

Jeeptech01
04-10-2010, 04:14 PM
Man I would love to get one of those upper a arms for the rear. Do you know if they sell it separately? I havent seen anything like that anywhere else. Lookin good man.

WJJEEPIN
04-10-2010, 07:36 PM
Man I would love to get one of those upper a arms for the rear. Do you know if they sell it separately? I havent seen anything like that anywhere else. Lookin good man.

Check in with Josh at IRO and see. I dont see why not. The adjustability of the pinion is really easy with this. And it makes a TON of difference on the road.

With the 5.5" lift and short arm it the jeep felt top heavy and had a ton of body roll. Once I installed these it feels much more centered and lower cog.

Also just picked up some bils for the front.

Jeeptech01
04-10-2010, 08:34 PM
I was planning on adj lowers with the spacer but it would be really nice to be able to adj the upper too. How is the polished turdy holding up?

WJJEEPIN
04-10-2010, 09:16 PM
I was planning on adj lowers with the spacer but it would be really nice to be able to adj the upper too. How is the polished turdy holding up?

So far the D30 is doing well. I havent put much time off road on it yet. I have been piecing the jeep since my daughter was born in July 09. Now that the LA is on the rear I will be heading down to HH in the near future to put it through some paces.

Jeeptech01
04-10-2010, 09:25 PM
Ha yea I forgot you mentioned the kids thing earlier. Yea I have 2 also and I know what you mean LOL keep at it.

WJJEEPIN
04-10-2010, 09:40 PM
Ha yea I forgot you mentioned the kids thing earlier. Yea I have 2 also and I know what you mean LOL keep at it.

Nice, Yeah two isnt twice as hard as one, its about 10 times harder. My son is 2yr 9mo and daughter is 9mo. She is just on the edge of being mobile and the fun starts. :) My son will do his first wheeling trip with me in the next month. I am stoked to get him on the trail.

Jeeptech01
04-10-2010, 10:16 PM
Cool. Yea my son is 3 1/2 and my daughter is 2. Everyone says it gets easier as they get older we'll see...

fredr1980
04-11-2010, 01:12 AM
So far the D30 is doing well. I havent put much time off road on it yet. I have been piecing the jeep since my daughter was born in July 09. Now that the LA is on the rear I will be heading down to HH in the near future to put it through some paces.

Looks good. I think I actually saw your jeep over at Comberson's in Campbell a couple days ago as I was driving by. I'll be hitting Hollister next Sunday with a couple people if you want to come and test out your rig then. :D

Fred R.

WJJEEPIN
04-11-2010, 12:20 PM
Looks good. I think I actually saw your jeep over at Comberson's in Campbell a couple days ago as I was driving by. I'll be hitting Hollister next Sunday with a couple people if you want to come and test out your rig then. :D

Fred R.

Morning Fred, yup its back at the shop to repair the upper a-arm mount, re-attach the sliders, and potentially look at fabbing a new Trac-Bar Bracket on the frame to correct the angle I created by flipping the DL. Ill throw up some pics once I have her back.

Hmm, that is tempting, I would like to hit it with a group. Ill check in with the Boss and see our schedule. Should I PM you?

WJJEEPIN
04-18-2010, 02:28 PM
Picked her back up last night. Still have some minor things to go over. But here she is up on the rack.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/DSC_0050.jpg

Here is the mount for the upper link.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/DSC_0048.jpg

Here you can see the new flowmaster muffler. Sounds mean outside but not that noticeable in the cab even at fwy speeds.

Also check out the inside of the upper link.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/IRO%20Rear%20LA%20Upgrade/DSC_0047.jpg

Jeeptech01
04-18-2010, 09:02 PM
Hmm I thought that A arm mounted in the factory location :(


Looks great man.

WJJEEPIN
04-18-2010, 09:33 PM
Hmm I thought that A arm mounted in the factory location :(


Looks great man.

It has the factory bushings so you might be able to work the into the factory location. Though I think it's wider.

Jeeptech01
04-18-2010, 09:38 PM
I'll have to call them in a few months when Im ready and see what they can come up with. I finished the tuck too btw. I also put up some pics of it on the lift. Lemme know if you need another angle.

WJJEEPIN
07-09-2010, 01:43 AM
Uh Oh. Finally got a hold of Jes from Pirate 4x4 and we tackled the gas tank skid raise today. Havent loaded all the pics up but here is a teaser.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Jeep%20Gas%20Tank%20Lift/IMG_0429.jpg

WJJEEPIN
07-09-2010, 11:43 PM
Here are a few more pix from my iphone, I need to get the pix from my buddy.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Jeep%20Gas%20Tank%20Lift/IMG_0422.jpg

Where we put the hole for the filler tubes

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Jeep%20Gas%20Tank%20Lift/IMG_0423.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Jeep%20Gas%20Tank%20Lift/IMG_0427.jpg

I ended up trimming the filler tube up a few inches to assist in alleviating the sever angle but left the breather tube.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Jeep%20Gas%20Tank%20Lift/IMG_0428.jpg

And my brother came into town and brought my son his bday gift for his 3rd bday. He works for the forest service up in south shore of Tahoe and is a sawyer. So how fitting to get my son home depot faux chain saw. makes sound and the saw blade moves back and forth.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Jeep%20Gas%20Tank%20Lift/IMG_0433.jpg

Jeeptech01
07-10-2010, 08:06 PM
Cool! By far one of my favorite mods that I did to the WJ.

MoonyJohn
07-12-2010, 04:29 AM
Nice.. getting that dirty diaper a raise. Have you finished yet? I want to see how you seal everything up. Ive seen some people cut about 4" off the sides where its flat, not to where it gets to the curve. Hopefully the newb questions dont bother you, I need as much info as possible so I can go do it someday.

Nice jeep btw :D

Jeeptech01
07-12-2010, 09:33 AM
I left part of the curve in mine since it will keep some strength and rigidity in the panel. Not that it matters now I guess LOL.

WJJEEPIN
07-13-2010, 10:51 AM
Nice.. getting that dirty diaper a raise. Have you finished yet? I want to see how you seal everything up. Ive seen some people cut about 4" off the sides where its flat, not to where it gets to the curve. Hopefully the newb questions dont bother you, I need as much info as possible so I can go do it someday.

Nice jeep btw :D

So for some bling I got some diamond plate to cover the hole. I only cut out the tire carrier at the curve for the same reason as JT01. I am 95% done. I just need to get some dynamat to cover the bottom and deaden some of the sound and I figure it will assist in sealing the gap. I plan on finishing up this weekend and will toss some more pix up at that point.

Jeeptech01
07-13-2010, 04:35 PM
Diamond plate = good!

WJJEEPIN
07-13-2010, 11:25 PM
Diamond plate = good!

Yeah, I like it. I went with 2/16th and looking back I should have gone with 1/4" for more sturdy. I went with 33"x35" and it works but it is a tad shy after trimming, so if I were to do it I would go with 35"x35".

Jeeptech01
07-14-2010, 09:15 PM
2/16th? Yea I used 1/8th too :weedman:

Plenty strong.

WJJEEPIN
07-16-2010, 11:20 PM
Mobile upload:

So here is the cut diamond plate.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Jeep%20Gas%20Tank%20Lift/fd91103d.jpg

Here is the dynamat trimmed and laid down. I used waterproofing foil tape for the creases.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/Jeep%20Gas%20Tank%20Lift/7e8a8654.jpg

lakailimited06
07-17-2010, 08:53 PM
man thats nice, i jsut used 14g steel and like this door trim stuff and glued the carpet back onto it lol

WJJEEPIN
07-18-2010, 12:50 AM
man thats nice, i jsut used 14g steel and like this door trim stuff and glued the carpet back onto it lol

Caulked and in.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/c6b6b868.jpg

And kept the plastic brackets to hold the cover. I need to trip a bit if the plastic but it's a good fit.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/btwnmak/bd471c6d.jpg

jborushko
07-18-2010, 03:05 AM
just out of curiosity why did you dime out for diamond plate just to cover it with carpet? why not a cheaper metal? you said "bling" but you covered your bling!