View Full Version : Weight Of A ZJ And Trailer?
ILikeMud
12-19-2006, 12:56 PM
Anyone have a guessitmate on what a ZJ and trailer would weigh in at?
ZJ has no gear in it and almost a full tank of gas.
Basically what should the tow rig`s towing capacity be? I know my uncle`s 04 Tahoe Z71 towed my ZJ fully loaded down with no problem. It`s capacity is 7800lbs according to Edmunds so, anything higher then that?
canadian_driver
12-19-2006, 01:31 PM
i had to tow one zj with another, my 4.0 has no tow package and only 3 bolts on the hitch, and i was using a very heavy trailer, the jeep was around 3500lbs prolly a bit higher and it was a very heavy trailer at 2500lbs, it towed it fine,
Jim311
12-19-2006, 03:02 PM
It's not unusual for a ZJ to push 5k pounds. The weight of your trailer is impossible for us to guess.
ELLLLLIOTTTTT
12-19-2006, 03:09 PM
X2. Use your brain and do your own damn "guesstimating".
ILikeMud
12-19-2006, 03:22 PM
X2. Use your brain and do your own damn "guesstimating".
:overkill:
I guessed 8000lbs fucker.
I want to use a friend`s truck to tow it so I can get some work done on the fucker. I`m guessing a full size truck could do it.
OverkillZJ
12-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Fullsize truck should do it, mind the trailer and trailerbrakes depending on distance.
Towing is an easy way to royally screw up, caution is good.
ILikeMud
12-19-2006, 06:38 PM
Won't have trailer brakes on it, sadly.
I know towing can be a bitch so that's my main reason for asking questions.
OverkillZJ
12-19-2006, 06:51 PM
....Any trailer that can support the weight of a vehicle must have brakes. Whether they're surge, hydrolic, electric, doesn't matter - but any trailer you should be putting a ZJ on will have brakes. Even the nasty ghetto uhauls.
Unless you're Dave and borrow Cory's F350 dually.... then brakes were optional.
ILikeMud
12-19-2006, 07:31 PM
Yea, didn't know that.
BigDaveZJ
12-19-2006, 07:32 PM
I wasn't getting much help from trailer brakes when I pulled the ZJ in my 250 and it did "okay" but I would NEVER suggest it.
But yeah, towing with Corey's F350 DRW, no trailer brakes, in the SNOW, first time towing . . . . Definitely an adventure!
DieselZJ
12-19-2006, 09:08 PM
****copied from pirate4x4***
This happened to a friend of mine on the way to Harlan a month or two ago. I'll leave his name out of it but I thought I'd post it to stress the importance of trailer brakes. The connectors didn't match up (6 vs 7 blade) so he thought he'd just take his chances. After seeing this happen (I was 30' behind him) I installed brakes on my second axle. I now have 4 brakes on the trailer.
It wasn't too much load for that cummins too pull but it was too much to stop without good traction.
Before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/cumminsdzl/dustinpics003.jpg
After:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/cumminsdzl/WHIP003-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/cumminsdzl/WHIP004-1.jpg
canadian_driver
12-19-2006, 09:11 PM
yeah u gotta me sure your not stupid when you tow, anything even a small pwc with less than 800 lbs, turn wider take longer to stop, and dont paralle park
ILikeMud
12-19-2006, 09:25 PM
Damn.
That's some damage.
Tahoe should be fine.
Yes trailer brakes are needed for sure. More states require anything other than a small single axle utility trailer to have brakes on 1 axle. Some states require it on both axles.
DJJordache
12-20-2006, 10:41 AM
haha that dodge will buff out! I weighed my ZJ a while back at a truck stop and IIRC it was about 4200 (which was pre 4x4 so it is probably around 4400 now)
ILikeMud
12-20-2006, 12:32 PM
Sadly the Tahoe is in MI so I won't be getting my uncle to do it.
I might just say screw it and use my friends 2500 Cummins Ram.
Tommy
12-20-2006, 03:36 PM
Time to back half that and make a cool rig...
****copied from pirate4x4***
This happened to a friend of mine on the way to Harlan a month or two ago. I'll leave his name out of it but I thought I'd post it to stress the importance of trailer brakes. The connectors didn't match up (6 vs 7 blade) so he thought he'd just take his chances. After seeing this happen (I was 30' behind him) I installed brakes on my second axle. I now have 4 brakes on the trailer.
It wasn't too much load for that cummins too pull but it was too much to stop without good traction.
Before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/cumminsdzl/dustinpics003.jpg
After:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/cumminsdzl/WHIP003-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/cumminsdzl/WHIP004-1.jpg
That's gotta hurt. My 24' gooseneck has brakes on both axles. I let them stop me for the most part.
DCHZJ
12-20-2006, 04:40 PM
Even the nasty ghetto uhauls.
Nasty or not they work.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/467081/fullsize/100_3578.jpg
Rover was a little to big for the trailer (hence the yellow cheater straps). But we hauled that with a 2003 GMC 2500
That had to be the worst trailer i rented from uhaul. Next time i am buying my own.
Oh and the ghay fog light have been thrown out
My 5.9 stripped of the spare, rear seats, jack, and only fumes in the tank tipped the scales at 4050 pounds or so.
b1pig
01-05-2007, 10:51 AM
wow.. your uncle's Tahoe must have the larger engine in it or something...
I have the SWB 2004 Tahoe with the 5.3 ... and mine was only rated at 6500lbs. It did tow my ZJ on a light trailer from S.GA to Moab in Sept, tho. No trailer brakes.. I ran out of money. Cautious driving did me wonders. Uphill in the mountains (rocky and smoky) between 40-55, downhill 50-60 in 2nd gear engine braking. The trailer never got squirly with me.
Remember that the tires on both the tow rig and the trailer make alot of difference. Right before I left, I bought a new set of TRUE 8 ply bias trailer tires. I got bias because of the heavy sidewalls. It resists sway better. I was not disappointed.
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