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ILikeMud
12-19-2006, 12:56 PM
Anyone have a guessitmate on what a ZJ and trailer would weigh in at?

ZJ has no gear in it and almost a full tank of gas.
Basically what should the tow rig`s towing capacity be? I know my uncle`s 04 Tahoe Z71 towed my ZJ fully loaded down with no problem. It`s capacity is 7800lbs according to Edmunds so, anything higher then that?

canadian_driver
12-19-2006, 01:31 PM
i had to tow one zj with another, my 4.0 has no tow package and only 3 bolts on the hitch, and i was using a very heavy trailer, the jeep was around 3500lbs prolly a bit higher and it was a very heavy trailer at 2500lbs, it towed it fine,

Jim311
12-19-2006, 03:02 PM
It's not unusual for a ZJ to push 5k pounds. The weight of your trailer is impossible for us to guess.

ELLLLLIOTTTTT
12-19-2006, 03:09 PM
X2. Use your brain and do your own damn "guesstimating".

ILikeMud
12-19-2006, 03:22 PM
X2. Use your brain and do your own damn "guesstimating".

:overkill:

I guessed 8000lbs fucker.

I want to use a friend`s truck to tow it so I can get some work done on the fucker. I`m guessing a full size truck could do it.

OverkillZJ
12-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Fullsize truck should do it, mind the trailer and trailerbrakes depending on distance.

Towing is an easy way to royally screw up, caution is good.

ILikeMud
12-19-2006, 06:38 PM
Won't have trailer brakes on it, sadly.

I know towing can be a bitch so that's my main reason for asking questions.

OverkillZJ
12-19-2006, 06:51 PM
....Any trailer that can support the weight of a vehicle must have brakes. Whether they're surge, hydrolic, electric, doesn't matter - but any trailer you should be putting a ZJ on will have brakes. Even the nasty ghetto uhauls.


Unless you're Dave and borrow Cory's F350 dually.... then brakes were optional.

ILikeMud
12-19-2006, 07:31 PM
Yea, didn't know that.

BigDaveZJ
12-19-2006, 07:32 PM
I wasn't getting much help from trailer brakes when I pulled the ZJ in my 250 and it did "okay" but I would NEVER suggest it.

But yeah, towing with Corey's F350 DRW, no trailer brakes, in the SNOW, first time towing . . . . Definitely an adventure!

DieselZJ
12-19-2006, 09:08 PM
****copied from pirate4x4***

This happened to a friend of mine on the way to Harlan a month or two ago. I'll leave his name out of it but I thought I'd post it to stress the importance of trailer brakes. The connectors didn't match up (6 vs 7 blade) so he thought he'd just take his chances. After seeing this happen (I was 30' behind him) I installed brakes on my second axle. I now have 4 brakes on the trailer.

It wasn't too much load for that cummins too pull but it was too much to stop without good traction.

Before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/cumminsdzl/dustinpics003.jpg

After:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/cumminsdzl/WHIP003-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/cumminsdzl/WHIP004-1.jpg

canadian_driver
12-19-2006, 09:11 PM
yeah u gotta me sure your not stupid when you tow, anything even a small pwc with less than 800 lbs, turn wider take longer to stop, and dont paralle park

ILikeMud
12-19-2006, 09:25 PM
Damn.
That's some damage.

nate
12-19-2006, 11:19 PM
Tahoe should be fine.

Yes trailer brakes are needed for sure. More states require anything other than a small single axle utility trailer to have brakes on 1 axle. Some states require it on both axles.

DJJordache
12-20-2006, 10:41 AM
haha that dodge will buff out! I weighed my ZJ a while back at a truck stop and IIRC it was about 4200 (which was pre 4x4 so it is probably around 4400 now)

ILikeMud
12-20-2006, 12:32 PM
Sadly the Tahoe is in MI so I won't be getting my uncle to do it.

I might just say screw it and use my friends 2500 Cummins Ram.

Tommy
12-20-2006, 03:36 PM
Time to back half that and make a cool rig...



****copied from pirate4x4***

This happened to a friend of mine on the way to Harlan a month or two ago. I'll leave his name out of it but I thought I'd post it to stress the importance of trailer brakes. The connectors didn't match up (6 vs 7 blade) so he thought he'd just take his chances. After seeing this happen (I was 30' behind him) I installed brakes on my second axle. I now have 4 brakes on the trailer.

It wasn't too much load for that cummins too pull but it was too much to stop without good traction.

Before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/cumminsdzl/dustinpics003.jpg

After:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/cumminsdzl/WHIP003-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/cumminsdzl/WHIP004-1.jpg

Troy
12-20-2006, 04:04 PM
That's gotta hurt. My 24' gooseneck has brakes on both axles. I let them stop me for the most part.

DCHZJ
12-20-2006, 04:40 PM
Even the nasty ghetto uhauls.


Nasty or not they work.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/467081/fullsize/100_3578.jpg

Rover was a little to big for the trailer (hence the yellow cheater straps). But we hauled that with a 2003 GMC 2500
That had to be the worst trailer i rented from uhaul. Next time i am buying my own.



Oh and the ghay fog light have been thrown out

ZJZJ
01-03-2007, 04:52 PM
My 5.9 stripped of the spare, rear seats, jack, and only fumes in the tank tipped the scales at 4050 pounds or so.

b1pig
01-05-2007, 10:51 AM
wow.. your uncle's Tahoe must have the larger engine in it or something...

I have the SWB 2004 Tahoe with the 5.3 ... and mine was only rated at 6500lbs. It did tow my ZJ on a light trailer from S.GA to Moab in Sept, tho. No trailer brakes.. I ran out of money. Cautious driving did me wonders. Uphill in the mountains (rocky and smoky) between 40-55, downhill 50-60 in 2nd gear engine braking. The trailer never got squirly with me.

Remember that the tires on both the tow rig and the trailer make alot of difference. Right before I left, I bought a new set of TRUE 8 ply bias trailer tires. I got bias because of the heavy sidewalls. It resists sway better. I was not disappointed.